Jacksonville at #7 overall - Page 2

RaiderNation · 02-27-2012, 01:25 AM

Wright should be out of the question unless he runs a 4.3 at his Pro Day, I think his stock will drop into the 20's

The Jags will likely pick one of these players depending how the board falls: DE Quinton Coples, OT Riley Reiff, DE Melvin Ingram or if one of the top prospects some how fall they might look at one of them too. Blackmon and Richardson are the most likely from the top 6 to potentially fall a little in the draft. The Jags would love to get Blackmon at 7, and I think they would end up taking Trent Richardson at 7 if he's there and see what happens. If you can trade him for good value do it, if not keep him to pair with MJD and have a very strong running attack to help Gabbert.

descendency · 02-27-2012, 06:19 AM

Coples. I'll be betting on Coples.

Then again, DeCastro makes sense for the Jaguars philosophy.

descendency · 02-27-2012, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiderNation

Wright should be out of the question unless he runs a 4.3 at his Pro Day, I think his stock will drop into the 20's

I like how Kendall Wright runs slow and people think his tape can be ignored, but Justin Blackmon doesn't run because he'll run slow and people just make excuses for him.

IrishBrowns · 02-27-2012, 08:33 AM

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I like how Kendall Wright runs slow and people think his tape can be ignored, but Justin Blackmon doesn't run because he'll run slow and people just make excuses for him.

You may have a point, however, Blackmon has been an elite prospect for a few years now, and although yes Wright plays a lot faster, unfortunately 40 times are a big determining factor when coming to the NFL Combine. I just don't see how his stock would increase..and now people saying Wright is the 2nd best PROSPECT? PROSPECT wise I would say 4th.

murdamal86 · 02-27-2012, 08:37 AM

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That's a terrible position for Jacksonville at #7. Try like hell to trade back.

This

If the draft plays out like we're projecting it, trade back quick!! I don't like us reaching for a WR at #7

*watches Coples run a 4.72*

If we had to chose, get Coples

bitonti · 02-27-2012, 09:16 AM

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I like Upshaw among the options. That's a tone-setter for the defense.

+1 Upshaw or even Ingram work.

jbooshey · 02-27-2012, 11:03 AM

Brockers...BPA

georgiafan · 02-27-2012, 11:14 AM

any chance they trade up then?

mightytitan9 · 02-27-2012, 11:43 AM

floyd.....

NY+Giants=NYG · 02-27-2012, 11:49 AM

Who are the WRs on the Jags? Maybe trade back, and go WR?

georgiafan · 02-27-2012, 12:07 PM

The jags in the past dont take guys with character issues

AntoinCD · 02-27-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishBrowns

You may have a point, however, Blackmon has been an elite prospect for a few years now, and although yes Wright plays a lot faster, unfortunately 40 times are a big determining factor when coming to the NFL Combine. I just don't see how his stock would increase..and now people saying Wright is the 2nd best PROSPECT? PROSPECT wise I would say 4th.

I definitely doesn't help his stock but it doesn't hurt it as much as people are making out.

There is a difference between Kendall Wright running 4.6 when everytime you put on the tape he looks like one of the fastest guys on the field, and say if Blackmon had run 4.65/4.7.

If a guy looks like he may have issues with speed on tape and runs slow it confirms your opinion on him. If a guy looks like a burner and runs poorly you just have to rewatch the tape or wait until they run again.

Remember Joe Haden always looked like one of the fastest guys on the field and ran 4.57 at the combine. It didn't really hurt his stock.

mightytitan9 · 02-27-2012, 02:53 PM

The Jags need WR, and Floyd is an elite talent WR that fans are giving his due. I've always been a Blackmon fan in college, but I really don't think he's ever going to be an elite WR in the NFL, he compares to a better Michael Crabtree to me. He's already shown the drama queen WR and has already shown the bonehead plays.

Blackmon is probably the safer pick than Floyd due to Floyds off the field issues, but if it was just the player without any off the filed issues i'd take Floyd in a heatbeat

nikkayeah · 02-27-2012, 03:42 PM

wont be surprised if they draft nick perry

keylime_5 · 02-27-2012, 03:55 PM

Why is Coples not a single entity on the poll? He is there on every single mock draft almost.

Stephen Hill? Are we talking about their 2nd round pick b/c he's much more likely to be available in round 2 for them. No one in the top 20 will even think about taking Hill. You people kill me....Guy runs a 4.36 40 so he is a top 10 pick all of a sudden? Nevermind that he is a drop machine that has marginal college production.

bitonti · 02-27-2012, 04:08 PM

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Why is Coples not a single entity on the poll? He is there on every single mock draft almost.

agreed that Coples makes alot of sense for them. And he's an outstanding fit for their 4-3.

Since we are talking about it, what are his so called character concerns that would make Gene Smith veto that pick? his motor? it's not like he's on the police blotter.

toonsterwu · 02-27-2012, 04:11 PM

I don't recall anything serious with Coples either. More work ethic issues than anything. Granted, he doesn't seem to fit the type of guy Gene Smith has taken in recent years, but I don't recall his character being a huge problem off-field.

Dallas357 · 02-27-2012, 04:59 PM

A guard with the 7th pick? Lbs when they're loaded at lb? You don't take a lb at 7 anyway. A running back when you have the league leading rusher? wtf

asdf1223 · 02-27-2012, 05:04 PM

I'm disappointed nobody has made a random small school guy joke yet. That said I think they take Courtney Upshaw.

RaiderNation · 02-27-2012, 05:04 PM

I think they either go Coples or trade back and get Floyd/Wright/Jeffery later in the 1st depending on how far back they move. Teams will want to move up ahead of Carolina to get a DT(Poe or Brockers?) or maybe move up ahead Miami or Buffalo to get a pass rusher or OT like Riley Reiff at 7.

Jets could make a move to 7 to get Poe, I saw Rex Ryan front row during the 44 bench reps and know he had to be impressed with the field drills and 40 time. Maybe Jerry Jones and the Cowboys potentially try to make a big move to counter the Redskins if they get RG3, that Dallas defense could use help all around on defense.

RaiderNation · 02-27-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency

I like how Kendall Wright runs slow and people think his tape can be ignored, but Justin Blackmon doesn't run because he'll run slow and people just make excuses for him.

That's why you don't run, and Blackmon's stock stayed steady while Wright has to be dropping on many boards. Wright will still be very good deep threat, but I think his 40 time shows teams he isn't worth the top 15 pick and probably will fall behind Michael Floyd as well.

DeepThreat · 02-27-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderNation

I think they either go Coples or trade back and get Floyd/Wright/Jeffery later in the 1st depending on how far back they move. Teams will want to move up ahead of Carolina to get a DT(Poe or Brockers?) or maybe move up ahead Miami or Buffalo to get a pass rusher or OT like Riley Reiff at 7.

Jets could make a move to 7 to get Poe, I saw Rex Ryan front row during the 44 bench reps and know he had to be impressed with the field drills and 40 time. Maybe Jerry Jones and the Cowboys potentially try to make a big move to counter the Redskins if they get RG3, that Dallas defense could use help all around on defense.

With Gene Smith's aversion to character issues, I doubt the Jaguars go Floyd or Jeffery. Not sure they trade back either. It seems like if Jacksonville likes a guy, they will take him with their current pick, regardless of what his actual value might be.

gpngc · 02-27-2012, 07:33 PM

I'm starting to think Perry might have a chance...

I didn't add Coples because he didn't show great football character (lack of effort at times/rumors of playing not to get injured this season/the whole UNC team quit). I'm not sure if Smith views those red flags as different from off-field ones (I could argue they are WORSE). Also, Coples' senior year tape doesn't scream 7th overall...

This one is a quagmire for me.

Dallas357 · 02-28-2012, 12:01 PM

Not getting the upshaw prediction at all?.... They have plenty of lbs! 2 of the best in the league in fact. They need a de,cb,wr. If they don't get williams in fa, then maybe coples...But people are saying around there that he reminds them of derrick harvey, so instant scratch.

scottyboy · 02-28-2012, 12:30 PM

well coples blows and will bust, so there's that. Wright disappointed with his 40 (not like that's super important, but still), blackmon probably won't be there and Dre' and Gilmore arent top 10 values.

2 of the best LB'ers in the league? Smith I give you...but who's the 2nd? Poz? yeah...ok, he's not even a top 20 lb'er.

Why would decastro not be a good pick? Because he's a guard? He's someone who would improve that OL drastically to start on day 1. Martin or Reiff would work too. I don't get the whole "he's a guard thing". Dude's the 2nd most talented guy in the draft and would open up more holes for MJD and be protection for Gabbert (not like it matters, but still)