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Old 03-17-2012, 12:42 PM    (permalink
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Hey now - wasn't it Clay who broke off that 70yd run
That was Dwyer. He's probably the fastest of the bunch.
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Gerry Dulac said that we aren't going to get Tolbert. That makes me sad.
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Yes! Tolbert is one of the guys I'd really like. Tough, good hands, good runner. We'd have the slowest RBs though, haha. Redman, Tolbert, Dwyer, Clay, no speedsters.
Baron Batch could fill that role if he stays healthy. Unproven, but could be the guy they are looking at.

Doesn't seem to matter if what Dulac says is true. Here's hoping he's wrong.
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Yes! Tolbert is one of the guys I'd really like. Tough, good hands, good runner. We'd have the slowest RBs though, haha. Redman, Tolbert, Dwyer, Clay, no speedsters.
Yeah he is basically the same player as the other guys we have.

Maybe he will play some full back
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He's just being dumb. He's been telling me that for weeks. I could honestly see it though since BB likes to make those types of moves.
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How about that article about Tolbert maybe signing with Carolina and then trading away Stewart? I would be very interested in that trade, and would hope the Steelers would be as well.
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stewart would be an incredible pickup through trade
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I'd be alright with that, depending on the cost. What would you be willing to depart with in order to land him?
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3rd if right away, or conditional 3rd that can become a second next year.
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3rd or lower. Preferably a 4th.
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No way I'd give up a 3rd for Stewart. 4th I'd have to think about/5th I would do. Running backs are a dime a dozen.
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id give up a third in a heart beat
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5th? might that be low balling him to much?

Yeah they are a dime a dozen, but how many do you have to go through that are ready now. Draft a 3rd round back, or get one in his prime ready to go now?
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I would definitely choose drafting one in the 3rd over trading for Jonathan Stewart now - though I think 4th round is more likely. Going this route you have a player at a very reasonable cap price. Stewart is going to want an extension if traded (which I'm reading Carolina plans to keep him anyway) so you are going to let Mendenhall walk after this season? I know people will say keep both but we can not afford to pay two starting RB's market value money with our cap problems. All these deferred bonus $'s DO eventually catch up to you.

Top 3 rounds this draft i think we need a NT/Guard/ILB (in any order) so I don't think we will use one on a running back till 4.
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Not this year we can't afford them next year cap goes up. We will be cutting a few more guys next year, Jame Harrison will be part of it.
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We're not going to cut James Harrison. He is a freak and one of the top pass rushers in the NFL. If his has a completely unproductive year maybe, but not if he plays the way he has been.
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yeah seriously, if harrison averages a sack a game (not unheard of, actually closer to the norm) theyd be nuts to let him go
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But wise to trade him.
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seriously, i had hm ranked considerably higher than mendenhall that year and i think a full work load he could put up insane numbers....but hes never gotten that opportunity in carolina with williams blowing up as soon as they drafted him and then ultimately ended up resigning with carolina
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While he has been playing well, I wouldn't be surprised if we're cap-strapped and he was cut. There's a reason we didn't restructure him, even after he openly admitted to be willing to do so. If we wanted to keep him for sure, we wouldn't have thought twice about switching money to guaranteed money in future years like we did with Ben, Taylor, Woodley, etc. He's 34 in a month, missed 5 games this year, and consequently had career lows (as a starter) in every category except sacks (8.5 in 2007, 9 the past year). 6 came from just two games.

If he misses more games and his production dips again, he could be next in line in Steelers-that-still-have-a-little-left-in-the-tank-but-are-let-go-for-financial-reasons, like Faneca and Porter.

It'll be a sad day for sure though.
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seriously, i had hm ranked considerably higher than mendenhall that year and i think a full work load he could put up insane numbers....but hes never gotten that opportunity in carolina with williams blowing up as soon as they drafted him and then ultimately ended up resigning with carolina
Agree. Even though reporters are now saying he's not being traded, I'd swap a third for him without much hesitation. His salary is like $1.2 million, and he could re-sign next year.

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Goosemahn - completely agree you have no choice but to cut him if his production dips to say 6 sacks on the year, but as you pointed out he's never had less than 8.5 since becoming a full-time starter. His game isn't predicated on speed - I think he has a big year this year and we keep him. You are right to point out we didn't re-structure him, I think we would if we had to in order to match a Wallace offer. Let's not forget the man has 45.5 sacks in the past 4 years.
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