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Old 03-01-2012, 04:22 PM    (permalink
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We can cut Ed Reed, I saw some idiot journalist suggest that the other day.
Sounds like a great plan...

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Well if they got Wallace, they'd have no ammo to move up for Richardson.
What like the 17th pick?
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What like the 17th pick?
Yeah but what else would they give up? They'd have to trade their entire remaining draft basically.
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Yeah but what else would they give up? They'd have to trade their entire remaining draft basically.
Hahaha why?

Moving up 10 picks will probably cost you a future 1st and a 3rd and 4th or something. Not really a whole draft.
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I think we're trying to clear up more cap space to sign him long term.

Also, OG Chris Kemoeatu was released right now. Today's cuts save the Steelers about $8 million more.
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I think we're trying to clear up more cap space to sign him long term.

Also, OG Chris Kemoeatu was released right now. Today's cuts save the Steelers about $8 million more.
I think it's time to admit the Steelers are about to enter rebuilding mode, especially on defense.
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I think it's time to admit the Steelers are about to enter rebuilding mode, especially on defense.
Oh, absolutely. But it won't be as long and arduous a process as some people think, IMO. Almost half of the pieces are already there. We're a young NT from having the D-Line (Ziggy Hood and Cameron Heyward), one ILB from having the LB corps (LaMarr Woodley, Lawrence Timmons, and Jason Worilds), we've got three young CBs who've yet to be good or suck (Curtis Brown, Cortez Allen, and Keenan Lewis, though Keenan Lewis has been solid), and we do need safeties. Ryan Mundy is there, but I'm not sure the team views him as a long term answer.

So if we get a good NT and ILB this year, we'll be in pretty good shape. Of course, everything is always easier said than done, so we'll see how things ultimately play out.
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Hahaha why?

Moving up 10 picks will probably cost you a future 1st and a 3rd and 4th or something. Not really a whole draft.
Well if you are giving up a future first then yes. I didn't consider that. But I wouldn't give up future picks for a RB.
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Well if you are giving up a future first then yes. I didn't consider that. But I wouldn't give up future picks for a RB.
If they did get Wallace and Richardson they wouldnt be picking early so it wont matter.

What did Jacksonville give up last year to get Gabbert? It would be a similar trade to that.
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We can cut Ed Reed, I saw some idiot journalist suggest that the other day.
If that were to happen BB would have an orgasm powerful enough to shake the east coast, even if Ed is past his prime.
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I think we're trying to clear up more cap space to sign him long term.

Also, OG Chris Kemoeatu was released right now. Today's cuts save the Steelers about $8 million more.
So maybe they'll end up franchising him anyway? Why would Schefter report that they were tendering him?

If they save enough to sign him long-term, why wouldn't they franchise him? So they have the felxibility to do other things rather than having $10 milion invested in the cap because of the tag?
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I think you can cross the Bengals off the list. IIRC reading, a Bengals beat writer said that Mike Brown wasn't interested in making that type of move. Could it be smokescreen? Absolutely.
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I Pats already have done a trade like this for Wes. So to me they're in the lead. But if I'm the 49ers... I do in a heartbeat.
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If Houston has the salary cap space, which if I am correct they might not especially if they plan on bringing Mario back, they seem to be the best suited team to give up a 1st for him. They probably have the fewest holes of the potential landing spots. If they can't, then New England has to be considered the favorites given the two picks, but San Francisco would seem likely to be in the mix as well.
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I think you can cross the Bengals off the list. IIRC reading, a Bengals beat writer said that Mike Brown wasn't interested in making that type of move. Could it be smokescreen? Absolutely.
Mikey also wasn't going to give in to Carson Palmer's trade demands.

I'd be shocked if we did it but you'd have to think we're one of the more likely teams to make a significant offer with our cap space/extra picks plus Jerome's legal situation as well as the injury history of Jordan Shipley.
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Mikey also wasn't going to give in to Carson Palmer's trade demands.

I'd be shocked if we did it but you'd have to think we're one of the more likely teams to make a significant offer with our cap space/extra picks plus Jerome's legal situation as well as the injury history of Jordan Shipley.
He also didn't know that there was some idiot wanting to trade Carson Palmer for 2 1st rounders or a 1st and 2nd.
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I think you can cross the Bengals off the list. IIRC reading, a Bengals beat writer said that Mike Brown wasn't interested in making that type of move. Could it be smokescreen? Absolutely.
Bengals beat writters also have said Mike Brown would never deal Carson and Mike Brown would never take a TE in the 1st Round.

The fact that the Bengals are starting to hire more scouts and making changes in the personal department makes me question even if Mike is still in charge. Seems like his daughter is taking over.
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Wish the Giants had the money to get this guy to replace Mario. My bet is he goes to NE or Cincy
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I'll still be quite shocked if the Steelers don't retain Wallace, I'm guessing they get it done but there are going to be some big name cuts on the team.
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If that were to happen BB would have an orgasm powerful enough to shake the east coast, even if Ed is past his prime.
Yeah there has never been a bigger man crush of a coach with an opposing player then BB on Reed. It was funny cause they zoomed in on Bradys sweatband and he wrote "Know where 20 is" on his wrist band
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The Pats and Bengals make the most sense because they have later picks and have 2 first rounds picks. Plus the Bengals have a TON of cap space. And I have to think the Pats have some space as well. Especially if they cut Light.
The Pats could pull it off pretty easily, I think. Light and Waters have both mentioned retirement as a realisitic possibility this year (though I don't think Waters is even under contract?) and cutting Ocho is an easy choice.

I still think it's a pipe dream. But BB has to see how ugly our passing attack was with zero WR's able to get open and make an impact down the stretch.
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The Pats could pull it off pretty easily, I think. Light and Waters have both mentioned retirement as a realisitic possibility this year (though I don't think Waters is even under contract?) and cutting Ocho is an easy choice.

I still think it's a pipe dream. But BB has to see how ugly our passing attack was with zero WR's able to get open and make an impact down the stretch.
Just that one player would fix your offense, not that it's really broken anyway. You could literally get him, and just focus all other resources on the defense. And maybe a O-lineman somewhere.
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Just that one player would fix your offense, not that it's really broken anyway. You could literally get him, and just focus all other resources on the defense. And maybe a O-lineman somewhere.
100% right. It seems so obvious . . . which is why it won't happen.
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Send him to Cleveland for the first round pick they got from Atlanta and let them move up what they need to to get RG3, then have a freaking field day out there with that offense. That's what I want to see. Screw the Patriots, I'm sick of them, I wanna see some fresh blood have some success and I feel bad for the Browns fans, let them have some more glory days like they used to!
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