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Old 03-02-2012, 08:52 AM    (permalink
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Send him to Cleveland for the first round pick they got from Atlanta and let them move up what they need to to get RG3, then have a freaking field day out there with that offense. That's what I want to see. Screw the Patriots, I'm sick of them, I wanna see some fresh blood have some success and I feel bad for the Browns fans, let them have some more glory days like they used to!
Teams have to trade their own pick. Cleveland would have to give up #4.
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Teams have to trade their own pick. Cleveland would have to give up #4.
Doh, scratch that idea then.
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Send him to Cleveland for the first round pick they got from Atlanta and let them move up what they need to to get RG3, then have a freaking field day out there with that offense. That's what I want to see. Screw the Patriots, I'm sick of them, I wanna see some fresh blood have some success and I feel bad for the Browns fans, let them have some more glory days like they used to!
Can't arrange a deal like that. It's in the CBA that the team losing the player gets the actual team's pick and not another team's pick they may have acquired in a trade.
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though I don't think Waters is even under contract?
The Brian Waters contract was a 2 year deal.
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Can't arrange a deal like that. It's in the CBA that the team losing the player gets the actual team's pick and not another team's pick they may have acquired in a trade.
If the Steelers were to tender him, I believe they could then trade him for a pick if they wanted. The Titans did it several years back with McCareins, so if a team like Cleveland really wanted him they could trade a pick or two for him if they weren't willing to give the #4 pick.

Only problem with that is the Steelers would have to accept the trade, which probably wouldn't happen
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If the Steelers were to tender him, I believe they could then trade him for a pick if they wanted. The Titans did it several years back with McCareins, so if a team like Cleveland really wanted him they could trade a pick or two for him if they weren't willing to give the #4 pick.

Only problem with that is the Steelers would have to accept the trade, which probably wouldn't happen
Well yeah, they could do that. But like you said, the Steelers don't want to lose Wallace.
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That's been covered. I think the only thing they could do would be to negotiate a contract with Pitt that the new team is willing to accept and then make a deal. But if Pitt can afford the deal I doubt they'd do that.

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Also, I know the "rule" is the team must give up their own pick in the round. But, is that set in stone, or is it the same as the frachise tag requiring two first round picks?
It is set in stone in the new CBA.
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What are the chances Wallace ends up in Washington now to give RG3 a legit weapon there, who's still young?
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They dont have a 1st round draft pick to give up.
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What are the chances Wallace ends up in Washington now to give RG3 a legit weapon there, who's still young?
God dammit is this a stupid post. Do you know anything, about anything or do you just like seeing that post number go up under your name? Way to make me click on this thread under the assumption someone brought an article about Wallace in to be discussed or something.
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God dammit is this a stupid post. Do you know anything, about anything or do you just like seeing that post number go up under your name? Way to make me click on this thread under the assumption someone brought an article about Wallace in to be discussed or something.
Im sensing you're not in a good mood
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Haha no I just don't understand how one of the biggest threads/stories in the nfl right now was that the redskins have just given up 3 firsts to get RG3. What does he think they are going to magically give another first to the steelers for Wallace?
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Haha no I just don't understand how one of the biggest threads/stories in the nfl right now was that the redskins have just given up 3 firsts to get RG3. What does he think they are going to magically give another first to the steelers for Wallace?
i cant really say much cus when i first read it i was like "yeah that would be awesome" but then i stopped to think about it and realised it was impossible.
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Well I give you credit for getting that far haha. I lost it at Washington.
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God dammit is this a stupid post. Do you know anything, about anything or do you just like seeing that post number go up under your name? Way to make me click on this thread under the assumption someone brought an article about Wallace in to be discussed or something.
Let me do my best J-Mike 88 impression.

Wow, with this RGIII trade there are a ton of implications and factors I think the rest of the NFL will feel after such a monumental blockbuster insane incredible wild miraculous supercalafragalisticexpialadocious trade.

-- WHO do YOU THINK will want to sign with the Redskins in free agency now that they have one of the MOST ATHLETIC most ANALYZED and HIGHLY TOUTED Quarterbacks to come along since the likes of Mike Vick?

-- WHAT do YOU THINK the ramifications of this will be on future deals in the draft? DO YOU THINK that Matt Barkley will command up to 5 first round picks!?!?!?

-- WHERE do YOU THINK Matty Flynn will go now that it is almost a forgone conclusion that RGIII is going to the Redskins and it is almost a closed deal that Peyton Manning will go to the Broncos or Dolphins.

-- WHEN do YOU THINK the Redskins will make the Super Bowl, one, two years? Do you think they can beat my super ******* awesome Packers (that I predicted would lose to the Giants guys, I even bet on it, I swear).

-- WHY do YOU THINK the price for the second pick was so high? I mean come on, there are other guys ya can get, JUST LOOK AT TT'S JOB BUILDING THE PACKERS!!!!
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Wow, with this RGIII trade there are a ton of implications and factors I think the rest of the NFL will feel after such a monumental blockbuster insane incredible wild miraculous supercalafragalisticexpialadocious trade.

-- WHO do YOU THINK will want to sign with the Redskins in free agency now that they have one of the MOST ATHLETIC most ANALYZED and HIGHLY TOUTED Quarterbacks to come along since the likes of Mike Vick?

-- WHAT do YOU THINK the ramifications of this will be on future deals in the draft? DO YOU THINK that Matt Barkley will command up to 5 first round picks!?!?!?

-- WHERE do YOU THINK Matty Flynn will go now that it is almost a forgone conclusion that RGIII is going to the Redskins and it is almost a closed deal that Peyton Manning will go to the Broncos or Dolphins.

-- WHEN do YOU THINK the Redskins will make the Super Bowl, one, two years? Do you think they can beat my super ******* awesome Packers (that I predicted would lose to the Giants guys, I even bet on it, I swear).

-- WHY do YOU THINK the price for the second pick was so high? I mean come on, there are other guys ya can get, JUST LOOK AT TT'S JOB BUILDING THE PACKERS!!!!
I just pissed myself!

There needs to be a poll in there somewhere
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Let me do my best J-Mike 88 impression.

Wow, with this RGIII trade there are a ton of implications and factors I think the rest of the NFL will feel after such a monumental blockbuster insane incredible wild miraculous supercalafragalisticexpialadocious trade.

-- WHO do YOU THINK will want to sign with the Redskins in free agency now that they have one of the MOST ATHLETIC most ANALYZED and HIGHLY TOUTED Quarterbacks to come along since the likes of Mike Vick?

-- WHAT do YOU THINK the ramifications of this will be on future deals in the draft? DO YOU THINK that Matt Barkley will command up to 5 first round picks!?!?!?

-- WHERE do YOU THINK Matty Flynn will go now that it is almost a forgone conclusion that RGIII is going to the Redskins and it is almost a closed deal that Peyton Manning will go to the Broncos or Dolphins.

-- WHEN do YOU THINK the Redskins will make the Super Bowl, one, two years? Do you think they can beat my super ******* awesome Packers (that I predicted would lose to the Giants guys, I even bet on it, I swear).

-- WHY do YOU THINK the price for the second pick was so high? I mean come on, there are other guys ya can get, JUST LOOK AT TT'S JOB BUILDING THE PACKERS!!!!
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Yeah Bravo WB that was excellent.
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Actually, if WSH could give up their 2015 first round draft pick to PIT for Wallace, they probably would. Haha. LOL.
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Actually, if WSH could give up their 2015 first round draft pick to PIT for Wallace, they probably would. Haha. LOL.
True. I doubt they'd think twice! LOL.
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Actually, if WSH could give up their 2015 first round draft pick to PIT for Wallace, they probably would. Haha. LOL.
Any team would give up a 2015 first round pick for Mike Wallace, you'd be getting a first round talent for a first round pick 4 years away.
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Any team would give up a 2015 first round pick for Mike Wallace, you'd be getting a first round talent for a first round pick 4 years away.
Your math is bad
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How many years away? I meant drafts anyway, its 4 drafts away.
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How many years away? I meant drafts anyway, its 4 drafts away.
2015 - 2012 = 3
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