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View Poll Results: Which RB is better?
Lamar Miller 53 76.81%
David Wilson 16 23.19%
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:58 PM    (permalink
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Miller, by far.
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I'm surprised that this poll has turned into such a landslide.

I honestly don't like Miller more than Wilson, Turbin, Martin, or Pead. I hate to go against the grain to that extreme, but I just don't see anything in him besides his speed. I think he's capable of carrying the load at the next level, but I feel like it's a shot in the dark.
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It is a shot in the dark, but that can be said for about any position. I think scheme/line/opporuntity are huge factors to sucess at the Runningback spot. Unless your Barry Sanders your not going anywhere without decent blocking.
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Uhhh, David Wilson...



p.s. Miller has some questions about his shoulder-could be the reason he played softer than he should have at times and was taken out of tough yard situations, or he just wasn't good at it, either way not good.
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I think they are both round 1 caliber RB's but one is likely to go round 2, most likely it will be Wilson, because RB's have dropped some in regards to the position.. Miller showed he can be the guy as Hallam put it, he seems to have that special it factor that teams won't be able to resist in round 1.

Don't get me wrong, 10 years ago, they both would have been 1st rounders and I like both of them a lot.
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I think they are both round 1 caliber RB's but one is likely to go round 2, most likely it will be Wilson, because RB's have dropped some in regards to the position.. Miller showed he can be the guy as Hallam put it, he seems to have that special it factor that teams won't be able to resist in round 1.

Don't get me wrong, 10 years ago, they both would have been 1st rounders and I like both of them a lot.
I don't see the "it" factor in Miller at all. I see it in Wilson, but Miller just looks average to me. I might be completely proved wrong when he hits the NFL, but from the games I have watched, he looks very bland. Sometimes bland can be productive, but I see a guy that relied on his speed more than anything. He's not extremely elusive and I don't anticipate him running anybody over at the next level.

Wilson looks the part of a very dangerous running back and I feel like there are at least 3-4 other running backs that offer better intangibles than Miller.
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I don't see the "it" factor in Miller at all. I see it in Wilson, but Miller just looks average to me. I might be completely proved wrong when he hits the NFL, but from the games I have watched, he looks very bland. Sometimes bland can be productive, but I see a guy that relied on his speed more than anything. He's not extremely elusive and I don't anticipate him running anybody over at the next level.

Wilson looks the part of a very dangerous running back and I feel like there are at least 3-4 other running backs that offer better intangibles than Miller.
I see Wilson making a lot of runs that have ZERO chance of succeeding in the NFL. His vision is also average at best, and he really struggles to find cutback lanes. Miller doesn't have as much wiggle, but he's still very elusive, and get's upfield quickly. I'd take Miller all day.
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I love Miller's burst through the hole. That type of running is what is successful in the NFL. Wilson spends too much time going sideways for my liking. Defenses are too fast for that type of running.
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to echo what others have said, i have reservations with wilson's vision and instincts. he has the tendency to run east-west, something that is a big red flag when assessing how well a running back will be able to transition to the pros. physically, miller and wilson are comparable, but i think miller is the much better football player. i have both miller and martin ranked ahead of wilson by a decent margin.
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As a Cane fan, I'm not very high on Miller as a pro. He was a homerun hitter, but he is certainly not a "inbetween the tackles" back. He was one touch then down. If he found daylight he was gone, but far too often he tripped over because of a strong breeze.

If he gets into a zone block scheme that can find him daylight, he could be very good. But he isn't running up the middle and succeeding in a traditional offense.
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I don't think he runs with nearly as much authority as Williams did when he came into the NFL. Cadillac was a tank. Wilson is a fringe player, he excelled in college around the edges.

I haven't seen enough of Wilson to get a read on his reported fumbling issues. Is it concentration or ball placement?
Wilson runs extremely hard. His strength is remarkable for his size and Miller's pales in comparison, even while having ten more pounds on Wilson.

It's close. I'm a huge VT fan but not too high on Wilson as a prospect. Round two prospect IMO. But he may be a better pick than Miller.

Miller is fragile, soft, and doesn't finish his runs. Overlooking those negatives, he has very good vision and breakaway ability.

Wilson lacks vision. However, he is the ideal personality an NFL team desires and has all of the physical tools to succeed. Extremely fast and powerful while being a detirmined runner.

And I'm not sure about Miller, but Wilson has outstanding hands in the receiving game (we just do not utilize the back in the passing game) and is great in pass protection.

I wouldn't take either back in round one.
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As a Cane fan, I'm not very high on Miller as a pro. He was a homerun hitter, but he is certainly not a "inbetween the tackles" back. He was one touch then down. If he found daylight he was gone, but far too often he tripped over because of a strong breeze.

If he gets into a zone block scheme that can find him daylight, he could be very good. But he isn't running up the middle and succeeding in a traditional offense.
This is my one reservation about him.

But he showed the "it" factor in that VT game (and I can't remember which game he made an incredible diving catch in the 4th Q - maybe it was VT).

He's also underrated as a receiver.

And he's still just a puppy. A lot of fast college backs get outside a lot simply because they can at that level. He's got upside because you simply can't teach breakaway speed.
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The gap between Miller and Richardson is smaller than the gap between these two players, IMO.
Wow. That I did not see coming. TR is a hammer, who can run off tackle and catch a pass. Miller is a one cut system back whose other attributes have yet to be established. Vast difference.

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Lamar Miller is more Darren Sproles.

David Wilson is kinda LT.

Not exactly the most useful in this league anymore.
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If the medical on Miller's shoulder checks out, it's Miller. Otherwise, Wilson.

That is, in my opinion.
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David Wilson is kinda LT.

Not exactly the most useful in this league anymore.
Miller is no where near as elusive Sproles.

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this site has the Bucs taking Wilson in the 2nd round and Miller going to the Bengals a few picks down. If we can get Claiborne and Miller in rounds 1 and 2 I will be happy. I just hope Claiborne is there at 5.
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Uhhh, David Wilson...



p.s. Miller has some questions about his shoulder-could be the reason he played softer than he should have at times and was taken out of tough yard situations, or he just wasn't good at it, either way not good.
Miller is a tough SOB - he played with a shoulder injury that would have sidelined most.

As for the vote, Miller. He's going to be a very good back in the NFL.
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p.s. Miller has some questions about his shoulder-could be the reason he played softer than he should have at times and was taken out of tough yard situations, or he just wasn't good at it, either way not good.

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I chose Wilson...minus the fumbling problems and lack of receiving skills(which I believe can be improved)...he looks like a poor man's LeSean McCoy to me.
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Lamar Miller is more Darren Sproles.

David Wilson is kinda LT.

Not exactly the most useful in this league anymore.
If a fresh legged guy is even kinda LT he's going to be useful...don't really see either comp.
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I'm not a Miller fan. Take the BC game for example - had two long runs, but take those away and he had 10 carries for 10 yards. Of course one of the long runs was a 79 yard TD - but if he lands on a team with a poor O-Line he's going to struggle.

Wilson needs to be a little more patient - but runs tougher and can break more tackles.
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I chose Wilson...minus the fumbling problems and lack of receiving skills(which I believe can be improved)...he looks like a poor man's LeSean McCoy to me.
Wilson has good hands. Not amazing but it's not a concern.
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I think Ryan Williams is much much better than David Wilson and he went in the second.
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Wilson has good hands. Not amazing but it's not a concern.
Agreed. What I meant is he's worse than McCoy, but McCoy is one of the top receiving RBs so it's not a bad thing. So in essence, I think he's a poor man's Shady McCoy.
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