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Old 01-24-2014, 08:41 PM    (permalink
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Third or fourth. Prince and Yoda's seniority gets them the top spots.
Boo, I vote for a randomized order.
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I know it all depends on keepers but good chance Tanaka goes #1 overall correct?
Well I do draft #1 or damn near it (I think I finished last?) and Tanaka is Asian, so.........and contrary to popular belief, I didn't tank for it. Prince caught me and passed me, good for him. My pitching was so freaking bad, and I am not sure how I let it get so damn bad. One closer, no starting pitchers, and aging hitters. I was the Los Angeles Angels....
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Boo, I vote for a randomized order.
Pay your dues son.
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Oh right the thing where we bail out the people who don't know what they're doing? Pass.
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Wacha, Wacha, Wacha, Wacha, Wacha!

I just looked over the 4 rosters, I like a lot of players I see.
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:58 AM    (permalink
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Oh right the thing where we bail out the people who don't know what they're doing? Pass.
This is not the league for relying on consistent rules year to year. It's the league where the rules constantly change depending on how to constantly help the bottom of the league.

We declared 12 keepers last year, drafted with the intent that there will be 12 keepers, made trades with the intent on keeping 12 keepers, made waiver wire pick ups and sacrificed waiver priority based on the idea that we're keeping 12.

...end of season comes and the rules change it to 10 and then to 9, and then the bottom 4 teams have a complete redraft. No ifs, ands or buts. Lovely.
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Hey, I don't need a bailout. I just need McCutchen.
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Wacha, Wacha, Wacha, Wacha, Wacha!

I just looked over the 4 rosters, I like a lot of players I see.
I say we all get 1 pick out of that draft.
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You're gonna love the drama in this league.
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This is not the league for relying on consistent rules year to year.
Obviously. Nor it is the league where these types of changes are even voted on, since Xio unilaterally decided that's what we were going to do, even though the real problem is obvious and the reason why it's not being addressed is obvious as well.

Not interested. Find someone to fill my spot.
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Oh right the thing where we bail out the people who don't know what they're doing? Pass.
You can choose to view it that way, but I'd implore you to recognize that this league wouldn't have sustained for another season without it.

The redistribution draft doesn't impact your roster one bit. I don't know why you'd make a fuss.
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Obviously. Nor it is the league where these types of changes are even voted on, since Xio unilaterally decided that's what we were going to do, even though the real problem is obvious and the reason why it's not being addressed is obvious as well.

Not interested. Find someone to fill my spot.
How are you possibly forgetting that we did vote on many of these things?

The consensus was to lower the number of keepers. This was deemed the lesser evil as opposed to a full re-draft. It's not MY fault the gap between the bottom and top of the league was so goddamn wide. You'd expect that to happen after FOUR seasons. Good luck finding any other league that's sustainable.

BF is the kid who kicks the ball into the woods when he's tired of playing with everyone. Bravo.
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Also, shut up about the format changing, D. Don't act like I'm doing this in my self interest on a whim. I could have easily kept the high number of keepers and killed you all again in the standings to milk another title. I'd rather create a league that's challenging and engaging for all of its members.

I only promised we wouldn't do a re-draft and we didn't.
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Obviously. Nor it is the league where these types of changes are even voted on, since Xio unilaterally decided that's what we were going to do, even though the real problem is obvious and the reason why it's not being addressed is obvious as well.

Not interested. Find someone to fill my spot.
The real problem being that I can't find interested/engaged members to take on the horrid rosters of the failing owners?

If you were the commissioner, you might understand the difficulty of such a task (as well as the difficulty even maintaining this league for close to 10 years). No one wants to take over a roster they quite clearly have no chance in hell to win with. We're replacing two members this season who quit on the league. You can't reasonably expect more.
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Obviously. Nor it is the league where these types of changes are even voted on, since Xio unilaterally decided that's what we were going to do, even though the real problem is obvious and the reason why it's not being addressed is obvious as well.

Not interested. Find someone to fill my spot.
We always vote on these things, and then one or two people forget about that and believe D-Unit's tripe. I thought you were above this, but apparently not.
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So, I'll just take over DJP's team, and BF's group can go into the keeper draft. Cheers.
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So, I'll just take over DJP's team, and BF's group can go into the keeper draft. Cheers.
You'd like that, wouldn't you? It's the disparity between DJP and Max's rosters that made the redistribution draft a basic necessity. DJP's group of keepers was one good draft away from a title team. Max's possible keepers were abysmal.

This was a hypothetical re-distribution draft I threw together in August:


Those are keeper groups that eliminate bottom-feeder teams while allowing everyone else to maintain their hard-earned keeper groups. It's the only way to go to avoid needing a full re-draft, which no one wants. It should also go a long way toward re-invigorating the potential for a busy season of trades. There might have been five trades of note all of last season. That's boring and makes competition stagnate. Most of us here recognize that to be true.
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You'd like that, wouldn't you? It's the disparity between DJP and Max's rosters that made the redistribution draft a basic necessity. DJP's group of keepers was one good draft away from a title team. Max's possible keepers were abysmal.
Counterpoint: Taking BF's pool of keepers would also fix Max's ****** team, whilst allowing me to take over DJP's team. :P
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Counterpoint: Taking BF's pool of keepers would also fix Max's ****** team, whilst allowing me to take over DJP's team. :P
If BF is serious about leaving, I don't know what we're going to do. It doesn't seem right to have three replacement owners, but one of them gets to keep BF's team.
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If BF is serious about leaving, I don't know what we're going to do. It doesn't seem right to have three replacement owners, but one of them gets to keep BF's team.
Why don't the three replacement owners have a 9 round draft of only guys on those rosters of leaving managers?
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Why don't the three replacement owners have a 9 round draft of only guys on those rosters of leaving managers?
Because it doesn't fix the problem of Prince and Yoda's teams being too terrible to contend for anything higher than 10th place.

This isn't an ideal situation. It requires some bold/creative changes to be made. But something has to be done in order to avoid a full re-draft.
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