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Old 03-23-2012, 09:04 AM    (permalink
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With Coples having 3 alcohol related arrests in the past 2 years and with Gene Smith wanting players with good character, it looks like Quinton Coples does not fit with the Jags. Also with the free agent signing of DE Jeremy Mincey it lessens the need at DE. Coples may go 8 or 9 since he is deserving of being drafted that high. After a review of all of the very good posts, it appears that there is -- "No Consensus #7 Pick"
That's Michael Floyd, Quinton Coples has no arrests that I am aware of.
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jacksonville gets burned when they draft DE's ie. derrick harvey, quinton groves. in other words hope to god they dont
Both of those guys came from the same class and James Harris was the man making the picks then.


I think DeCastro as a sleeper choice like others mentioned makes some sense, as could Jonathan Martin or Riley Reiff. Offensive line is one way they could go. Blackmon if he slides would cause them to run to the podium, same if Claiborne slips. Otherwise Ingram also makes a lot of sense.

I think ultimately Gene Smith is hoping to trade back if he can.
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people really think they'll draft poe at 7? just stop. They're going to take ingram at 7, and then a wr in the 2nd.

The jags have never drafted higher than 7, it sucks. Never having a team worse than 5-11 in your history is unfortunate.
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right now I think it will be Melvin Ingram. But a small part of me thinks Gene Smith pulls another Alualu and takes Vinny Curry about 20 slots too early (and it actually turns out to be a good pick).
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After careful consideration I've decided that Whitney Mercilus is actually the front runner in my mind.
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Keep an eye out for DeCastro. If they feel fine with Britton, once healthy, at RT, they could certainly upgrade the interior.

This might be the most exciting pick of the draft, because there are so many directions the Jags could plausibly go in, but I'm sure GM Gene loves everything about DeCastro, and he would probably be the most likely decision maker in the league to take an OG in the top ten.
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I'm going to go with Brian Quick because Gene smith doesn't give a **** anymore
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Coples has no character concerns that would have him off the Jags board. That being said, I think they could easily pass on him just because I think they want to get Gabbert a toy like Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill.
I've been thinking about Kendall Wright as a possible sleeper to the Jags and potential surprise of the Top 10 for a while now, but can you imagine if they REALLY wanted to go for the shock factor and selected Stephen Hill at #7!? Wow! That would be CRAZY! But I could see it!
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Ruben Randle, I'm calling it now. At this point, the Jags no longer surprise me with their picks.
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I say they trade back with a team going for Tannehill. Chiefs, Browns whatever. I could also see the Rams trading their pick again to a team that wants him. If I'm the Jags and I have to pick, I'd go DeCastro. The Jags are lucky in that the positions they need this year are very deep.
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If they stay at 7 they will draft Ingram/Upshaw or a WR like Stephen Hill. There's a chance they talk with Cleveland to trade up to 4 to snag Blackmon, while the Browns will likely end up with Richardson or Tannehill at 7 and getting more picks. The Jaguars are a big wild card that will likely make a move on draft day if they want to, offers should be on the table for teams possibly trying to get Tannehill or one of the top 6 if one falls.
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Keep an eye out for DeCastro. If they feel fine with Britton, once healthy, at RT, they could certainly upgrade the interior.

This might be the most exciting pick of the draft, because there are so many directions the Jags could plausibly go in, but I'm sure GM Gene loves everything about DeCastro, and he would probably be the most likely decision maker in the league to take an OG in the top ten.
Drafting a Guard at 7 would be monumentally dumb, even for the Jaguars.
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Drafting a Guard at 7 would be monumentally dumb, even for the Jaguars.
Yet nobody has any problem selecting a RB top 5.
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Drafting a Guard at 7 would be monumentally dumb, even for the Jaguars.
If the guy is to be a probowl player and dominate at his position why is it dumb to draft him at 7? I understand a kicker or punter but an OL that is probowl caliber is not dumb
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If they want Decastro, I think theyll be more inclined to pick up an extra pick in the process and trade back.
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If they want Decastro, I think theyll be more inclined to pick up an extra pick in the process and trade back.
You could have said the same thing about Alualu two years ago, yet they selected him with their original pick when he wasn't expected to go for at least another fifteen selections.

Trading down with DeCastro in mind is much riskier. DeCastro could easily go in the four or five picks after 7, so if they really want him, they move down very far.
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id rather draft a guard that high than a rb that high nowadays
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I wish there was a Jacksonville fan here, or somebody that cares enough about trying to project this pick, that could go back and look at Gene Smith's history and try to find some more trends in the traits that he values in players. I know that he tries to find players that are perceived as undervalued, thus all the small school guys. But what about Alualu? What made Smith think he was so undervalued? I have no idea; I didn't pay much attention to him as a prospect. Are there guys like that in this draft?

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people really think they'll draft poe at 7? just stop. They're going to take ingram at 7, and then a wr in the 2nd.

The jags have never drafted higher than 7, it sucks. Never having a team worse than 5-11 in your history is unfortunate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Hardy_(linebacker)

Also, stop acting like you have any idea what Jacksonville will do. Nobody has any idea.
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I wish there was a Jacksonville fan here, or somebody that cares enough about trying to project this pick, that could go back and look at Gene Smith's history and try to find some more trends in the traits that he values in players. I know that he tries to find players that are perceived as undervalued, thus all the small school guys. But what about Alualu? What made Smith think he was so undervalued? I have no idea; I didn't pay much attention to him as a prospect. Are there guys like that in this draft?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Hardy_(linebacker)

Also, stop acting like you have any idea what Jacksonville will do. Nobody has any idea.
Other than their first year, where tony boseli didn't play and jimmy smith wasn't jimmy smith yet. That remains their worst season.
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It's kinda hard when Smith himself has only been in charge of the Draft for 3 years. Before that, it was usually Shack Harris/Smith/Del Rio with Harris supposedly making the final call.

It's been said that he likes to go BAP for about the first 3 rounds and then targets guys that fit needs afterward(supposedly, if Buffalo and Oakland hadn't taken Spiller or McClain before #10 in '09, then one of them would've been the pick instead of Alualu).

If I had to hazard a guess, if someone like Richardson dropped to #7 and we couldn't trade back, then he'd easily be the pick. Not sure about Blackmon/Floyd if one or both were there at 7. I think Coples' motivation issues would drop him down Gene's board some and I don't think Tucker would re-work the entire defense around to get the most out of Ingram since he'd be kinda iffy as a 4-3 DE and as a pure DE, he'd probably like Upshaw more. Kirkpatrick could be a possibility since they brought him in for a private workout. Think there's a slim chance of it being OL since Britton is coming back and should be fully healthy after getting that infection after surgery last year.

I guess this semi-long ass post is just to say that I have no freaking clue, lol. I could make a list of like 10 guys and come up with a reason for Gene to pick him. It's really frustrating.
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If Blackmon and Claiborne go top 6 then I see the Jags taking Coples, yes.....but you never know. They always pick someone you don't expect with Smith.
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If Blackmon and Claiborne go top 6 then I see the Jags taking Coples, yes.....but you never know. They always pick someone you don't expect with Smith.
Eh, the only really out-of-nowhere pick he's made so far was Tyson.
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If Blackmon and Claiborne go top 6 then I see the Jags taking Coples, yes.....but you never know. They always pick someone you don't expect with Smith.
I honestly think Coples is out I think if it goes that way that it is between Upshaw and Ingram
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It has to be an offensive player in order to help Gabbert.
Tannehill would make his job a lot easier.
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