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Old 04-09-2012, 06:59 PM    (permalink
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Why do you assume that the Browns interest in Tannehill is not sincere?
Ummmhhh, b/c every coach, GM, or agent lies like a rug at draft time?
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Ummmhhh, b/c every coach, GM, or agent lies like a rug at draft time?
Yeah, but you've gotta be sneaky with your lies by mixing in some truths otherwise teams will think you're always smokescreening. I think Tannehill makes a lot of sense for the browns as they'd still have a full set of picks to work on the team that'll be around him once he is ready to step in for McCoy.
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Aside from a few really spectacular busts, Big Ten offensive linemen pretty much rock. I'd damn-near take Reiff sight unseen just for that reason.
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The Jets supposedly love Melvin Ingram, and might move up to get him.
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The Jets supposedly love Melvin Ingram, and might move up to get him.
I have heard that as well from several places.
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The Jets supposedly love Melvin Ingram, and might move up to get him.
I think the Jets would suit him very nicely - it is a bit of a problem projecting him to DE or OLB - the number of things they do defensively would really help him.
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I think the Jets would suit him very nicely - it is a bit of a problem projecting him to DE or OLB - the number of things they do defensively would really help him.

Yup. Ingram's value is in being a chess piece. Jets would be perfect fit.
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I think the Jets would suit him very nicely - it is a bit of a problem projecting him to DE or OLB - the number of things they do defensively would really help him.
I think his future could include more downs at 3-4 ILB than anywhere else.
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Yup. Ingram's value is in being a chess piece. Jets would be perfect fit.
Agreed. Lots of Jets fans what a pass rusher, but I think Ryan and Pettine are looking for more versatility out of the OLB spot and Ingram's likely the best option of the 3-4 OLB prospects this year.

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I think his future could include more downs at 3-4 ILB than anywhere else.
This is a good point. He obviously had a lot of success against guards in college (similar to Aldon Smith last year IIRC, though they obviously have completely different body types) and I certainly think if he goes to a 3-4 team he'll see a lot of time at ILB on third downs and in passing situations. Allows for another pass rusher to get onto the field and puts Ingram in a spot where he's comfortable. I'm sure he'd be used to blitz up the middle a lot as well.
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I've been on the Glenn bandwagon for a while now, but I've been thinking that we need a guaranteed good player at 10. Can Glenn be that guy, or does he have too many question marks?

I'd like to know why you think its a lock
I'd hate Cordy Glenn at 10, and I highly doubt he'll be the pick at 10. He had a terrible Senior Bowl and we know Nix is going to go BPA. With that said, I'm 90 percent sure either Reiff, Floyd, or Kuechly will be the pick at 10.

From a personal note, I feel as if Floyd and Hairston at LT is a way better combo than a 2nd/3rd round WR paired with Glenn at LT in the short and long term.
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Yeah, but you've gotta be sneaky with your lies by mixing in some truths otherwise teams will think you're always smokescreening. I think Tannehill makes a lot of sense for the browns as they'd still have a full set of picks to work on the team that'll be around him once he is ready to step in for McCoy.
The Browns will probably show interest in Tannehill and everyone else for that matter to see if anyone wants to trade up with them. Otherwise there is really no need to when you have the 4th pick and the first 3 picks are pretty much set in stone.
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According to Russ Lande at the Sporting News, a former Rams scout, Alabama running back Trent Richardson is the team's first choice for the sixth overall pick in the draft this year.
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The most telling moment of all came in Snead's introductory press conference, when he told this anecdote about the Falcons getting Michael Turner and Matt Ryan the same year. From my post at the time:

"Let's take Michael Turner," Snead explained when asked about his best player acquisition. "When we signed that player, we knew that we were going to hopefully get Matt Ryan as a franchise quarterback. We also knew that our defense was weak and we didn't have a lot of talented players there, and we only had so many things we could do. So we took the running back that fit a scheme of Mike Mularkey, who wanted a big running back, for a couple reasons: Help Matt out, let him run the ball, play-action pass and try to make our quarterback successful earlier, and No. 2 is keep our defense off the field because they were a weak link."
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I would be very, very surprised if the Rams don't have Wilson, Martin, or Miller on the roster after this draft.
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I know he is getting up there but you still have Jackson. Richardson would be a nice addition to any offense but RB is probably the strongest position on the team. At least wait a round or two.
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I know he is getting up there but you still have Jackson. Richardson would be a nice addition to any offense but RB is probably the strongest position on the team. At least wait a round or two.
Rams just need blue chip players, regardless of position. Steven has a lot of miles on those tires, and he could become a free agent after this season, he's got some voidable years on his contract.
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I'd hate Cordy Glenn at 10, and I highly doubt he'll be the pick at 10. He had a terrible Senior Bowl and we know Nix is going to go BPA. With that said, I'm 90 percent sure either Reiff, Floyd, or Kuechly will be the pick at 10.

From a personal note, I feel as if Floyd and Hairston at LT is a way better combo than a 2nd/3rd round WR paired with Glenn at LT in the short and long term.
no he had an amazing senior bowl
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Glenn was great in Mobile. He was greater in Indy. He has not hurt his stock at all this offseason. I will believe that a single team views Glenn as a left tackle when I see it though.....He's a right tackle or a guard at the next level. Anyone trying to put him on the blindside will be stretching their luck.
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Why would you be "very, very surprised" if none of those guys were on the Rams?

1. Trent Richardson
2. Alshon Jeffery
2. Coby Fleener/Josh Robinson

Kaboom, you've been Lawyered.
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All well and good that the Rams have Trent #1 on their board, but there's a less than 1% chance he makes it to 6.
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Some people have put forward the idea that if Richardson gets past Tampa he might fall to the middle rounds. I just do not think that is remotely possible. The Rams might indeed strongly consider him, Mullet Jeff loves a good RB. I also would expect the Jaguars to give him strong consideration if he is there at the #7.

Trent is just too good a prospect to fall much, even in the modern pass happy NFL.
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I'd hate Cordy Glenn at 10, and I highly doubt he'll be the pick at 10. He had a terrible Senior Bowl and we know Nix is going to go BPA. With that said, I'm 90 percent sure either Reiff, Floyd, or Kuechly will be the pick at 10.

From a personal note, I feel as if Floyd and Hairston at LT is a way better combo than a 2nd/3rd round WR paired with Glenn at LT in the short and long term.
Pretty hard to believe Reiff won't be the pick. Hairston would be a disaster as a starting LT.
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Pretty hard to believe Reiff won't be the pick. Hairston would be a disaster as a starting LT.
I think Reiff's potential as a LT is being exaggerated by many at this point. He might be able to the play the position, but I doubt he will ever be more than passable as a LT.
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Richardson could easily be a smokescreen. They could be hoping Cleveland or Tampa takes Richardson so that Claiborne or Blackmon fall to them. They may value Richardson and see him as a top 10 talent but could be hoping their hand is not forced to take him as BPA considering their team needs.

Yes the Rams could be playing the game. If the first 5 off the board are (Luck, RG3, Kalil, Blackmon & Claiborne) it is possible that the Rams don't value any other player outside of T-Rich inside the top 10. If nobody is willing to move up for Tannehill or another prospect then St.Louis is left with taking a player of lesser need or reaching. Perhaps the game plan is hoping to use that #6 pick on a position of greater need.

Snead while never the GM in Atlanta was part of a franchise during his time that took only one RB in the first round, TJ Duckett at 18. They did sign both Dunn and Turner during his tenure via FA. Atlanta had a much bigger need at RB when they signed Turner compared to the need for a RB in St.Louis. They could easily land another talented ball carrier with either pick 33 or 39 (Miller, Martin or Wilson) to pair with Jackson, and any one of those guys have the potential to become the feature back if they decided to cut ties with Jackson after this year. Fisher's tenure in Houston/Tennessee saw 2 1st round RB's taken (Eddie George and Chris Johnson) and again both times there were greater needs at RB than what the Rams currently have now.
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All well and good that the Rams have Trent #1 on their board, but there's a less than 1% chance he makes it to 6.
That's how I see it too. Richardson is gone at #4 or #5 IMO.
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