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Okay, this is the last one... :o)
Darn, I was gonna ask for Rich Eisen's 10-yard split...
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Just wondering if we can we get a few more? Just wondering if there are any OLBs or DEs that had times of 1.55 or quicker?
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Are you holding back because the splits won't be made available for public consumption period or because they aren't supposed to be released yet? And can someone tell me why the split times should be protected unless it's because those numbers are being massaged to fit agendas behind the scenes? Yes, I've watched one too many Oliver Stone movies.
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Are you holding back because the splits won't be made available for public consumption period or because they aren't supposed to be released yet? And can someone tell me why the split times should be protected unless it's because those numbers are being massaged to fit agendas behind the scenes? Yes, I've watched one too many Oliver Stone movies.
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NFL.com has the combine workout videos at their site. Just "download" the vids and calculate using "Frame Count". Not perfect, though. But it's what I've been doing.
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Understood. Funny how they end up at a very major site every year where you can access that information for years after it's put up and nobody at the league office bats an eye when it happens.
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Just want to throw it out there that I do like putting prospects' injury history on their scouting reports. I think that's new this year? But that's a major factor in ranking these guys, so it's nice to see it all in one place. Not to mention if you don't (can't) follow all the teams, you probably know so-and-so tore his ACL, but might not know such-and-such player has been dinged up over and over again, or has a nagging shoulder that could keep him from squaring his pads the way he should.
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Understood. Funny how they end up at a very major site every year where you can access that information for years after it's put up and nobody at the league office bats an eye when it happens.
Multiple sites have all the other data - but not the 10/20 yard splits - have no idea why they are different to the broad jump for example - for some positions the splits are certainly a better indicator of pro success.

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Here's what I now have - sorted by position and then surname:

Forename Surname - Pos - College - 10 Yard
Dwight Bentley - CB - Louisiana-Lafayette - 1.56
Morris Claiborne - CB - LSU - 1.6
Alfonzo Dennard - CB - Nebraska - 1.52
Antonio Fenelus - CB - Wisconsin - 1.56
Jamell Fleming - CB - Oklahoma - 1.57
Terrence Frederick - CB - Texas A&M - 1.57
Stephon Gilmore - CB - South Carolina - 1.5
Casey Hayward - CB - Vanderbilt - 1.52
Janoris Jenkins - CB - North Alabama - 1.47
Jeremy Jones - CB - Wayne State - 1.57
Coryell Judie - CB - Texas A&M - 1.51
Dre Kirkpatrick - CB - Alabama - 1.53
D'Anton Lynn - CB - Penn State - 1.63
Josh Norman - CB - Coastal Carolina - 1.52
Chaz Powell - CB - Penn State - 1.57
Josh Robinson - CB - Central Florida - 1.48
Coty Sensabaugh - CB - Clemson - 1.53

Jake Bequette - DE - Arkansas - 1.72
Jamie Blatnick - DE - Oklahoma State - 1.72
Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - 1.56
Quinton Coples - DE - North Carolina - 1.63
Tyrone Crawford - DE - Boise State - 1.62
Jack Crawford - DE - Penn State - 1.7
Vinny Curry - DE - Marshall - 1.68
Melvin Ingram - DE - South Carolina - 1.62
Bruce Irvin - DE - West Virginia - 1.57
Cam Johnson - DE - Virginia - 1.66
Chandler Jones - DE - Syracuse - 1.63
Ronnell Lewis - DE - Oklahoma - 1.6
Brandon Lindsey - DE - Pittsburgh - 1.65
Jonathan Massaquoi - DE - Troy - 1.65
Shea McClellin - DE - Boise State - 1.57
Whitney Mercilus - DE - Illinois - 1.53
Nick Perry - DE - USC - 1.51
Jacquies Smith - DE - Missouri - 1.64
Scott Solomon - DE - Rice - 1.62
Olivier Vernon - DE - Miami (Fl.) - 1.6

Michael Brockers - DT - LSU - 1.77
Fletcher Cox - DT - Mississippi State - 1.63
Jared Crick - DT - Nebraska - 1.69
Marcus Forston - DT - Miami (Fl.) - 1.78
Jaye Howard - DT - Florida - 1.72
Malik Jackson - DT - Tennessee - 1.69
Markus Kuhn - DT - North Carolina State - 1.66
Mike Martin - DT - Michigan - 1.69
Vaughn Meatoga - DT - Hawaii - 1.68
Rennie Moore - DT - Clemson - 1.62
Dontari Poe - DT - Memphis - 1.68
Kheeston Randall - DT - Texas - 1.81
Kendall Reyes - DT - Connecticut - 1.69
Devon Still - DT - Penn State - 1.76
J.R. Sweezy - DT - North Carolina State - 1.84
Alameda Ta'amu - DT - Washington - 1.78
Christian Tupou - DT - USC - 1.84
Billy Winn - DT - Boise State - 1.7
Derek Wolfe - DT - Cincinnati - 1.7
Jerel Worthy - DT - Michigan State - 1.64

George Iloka - FS - Boise State - 1.59
Trenton Robinson - FS - Michigan State - 1.5
Harrison Smith - FS - Notre Dame - 1.54
Johnny Thomas - FS - Oklahoma State - 1.6
Christian Thompson - FS - South Carolina State - 1.52

Emil Igwenagu - HB - Massachusetts - 1.63
Evan Rodriguez - HB - Temple - 1.58

Vontaze Burfict - LBI - Arizona State - 1.7
Tank Carder - LBI - TCU - 1.57
Dont'a Hightower - LBI - Alabama - 1.59
James-Michael Johnson - LBI - Nevada - 1.6
Steven Johnson - LBI - Kansas - 1.61
Mychal Kendricks - LBI - California - 1.53
Luke Kuechly - LBI - Boston College - 1.57

Emmanuel Acho - LBO - Texas - 1.57
Ryan Baker - LBO - LSU - 1.56
Nigel Bradham - LBO - Florida State - 1.65
Zach Brown - LBO - North Carolina - 1.52
Lavonte David - LBO - Nebraska - 1.56
Demario Davis - LBO - Arkansas State - 1.54
Darius Fleming - LBO - Notre Dame - 1.63
Sean Spence - LBO - Miami (Fl.) - 1.59
Nathan Stupar - LBO - Penn State - 1.64
Tahir Whitehead - LBO - Temple - 1.5
Kyle Wilber - LBO - Wake Forest - 1.63

Philip Blake - OC - Baylor - 1.76
Michael Brewster - OC - Ohio State - 1.76
Garth Gerhart - OC - Arizona State - 1.81
Ben Jones - OC - Georgia - 1.83

David DeCastro - OG - Stanford - 1.82
Adam Gettis - OG - Iowa - 1.65
Rishaw Johnson - OG - California (Pa.) - 1.77
Josh LeRibeus - OG - SMU - 1.8
Ryan Miller - OG - Colorado - 1.76
Lucas Nix - OG - Pittsburgh - 1.82
Quentin Saulsberry - OG - Mississippi State - 1.89
Andrew Tiller - OG - Syracuse - 1.86
Brandon Washington - OG - Miami (Fl.) - 1.77
Desmond Wynn - OG - Rutgers - 1.76
Kevin Zeitler - OG - Wisconsin - 1.75

Mike Adams - OT - Ohio State - 1.84
Justin Anderson - OT - Georgia - 1.76
Kelvin Beachum - OT - SMU - 1.72
Tony Bergstrom - OT - Utah - 1.78
James Brown - OT - Troy - 1.84
Tom Compton - OT - South Dakota - 1.69
Andrew Datko - OT - Florida State - 1.77
Anthony Dever - OT - Notre Dame - 1.88
Cordy Glenn - OT - Georgia - 1.76
Lamar Holmes - OT - Southern Mississippi - 1.78
Matt Kalil - OT - USC - 1.7
Senio Kelemete - OT - Washington - 1.95
Bobby Massie - OT - Mississippi - 1.82
Brandon Mosley - OT - Auburn - 1.79
Nate Potter - OT - Boise State - 1.82
Riley Reiff - OT - Iowa - 1.71
Matt Reynolds - OT - Brigham Young - 1.83
Zebrie Sanders - OT - Florida State - 1.76
Mitchell Schwartz - OT - California - 1.77
Amini Silatolu - OT - Midwestern State - 1.89
Donald Stephenson - OT - Oklahoma - 1.69
Dustin Waldron - OT - Portland State - 1.69
Brandon Washington - OT - Miami (Fl.) - 1.77
Rokevious Watkins - OT - South Carolina - 1.89

Edwin Baker - RB - Michigan State - 1.59
Mike Ball - RB - Nevada - 1.59
Brandon Bolden - RB - Mississippi - 1.59
Terrance Ganaway - RB - Baylor - 1.58
Cyrus Gray - RB - Texas A&M - 1.57
Dan Herron - RB - Ohio State - 1.57
Ronnie Hillman - RB - San Diego State - 1.5
LaMichael James - RB - Oregon - 1.6
Doug Martin - RB - Boise State - 1.64
Davin Meggett - RB - Maryland - 1.59
Lamar Miller - RB - Miami (Fl.) - 1.53
Isaiah Pead - RB - Cincinnati - 1.5
Bernard Pierce - RB - Temple - 1.52
Chris Polk - RB - Washington - 1.57
Tauren Poole - RB - Tennessee - 1.56
Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - 1.47
Robert Turbin - RB - Utah State - 1.57
David Wilson - RB - Virginia Tech - 1.55

Antonio Allen - SS - South Carolina - 1.59
Justin Bethel - SS - Presbyterian - 1.56
Sean Cattouse - SS - California - 1.65
Jerron McMillian - SS - Maine - 1.51
Charles Mitchell - SS - Mississippi State - 1.56
Eddie Pleasant - SS - Oregon - 1.6
Sean Richardson - SS - Vanderbilt - 1.51
Brandon Taylor - SS - LSU - 1.56

Dwayne Allen - TE - Clemson - 1.66
Orson Charles - TE - Georgia - 1.66
Drake Dunsmore - TE - Northwestern - 1.62
Michael Egnew - TE - Missouri - 1.57
Ladarius Green - TE - Louisiana-Lafayette - 1.53
James Hanna - TE - Oklahoma - 1.52
Cory Harkey - TE - UCLA - 1.66
David Paulson - TE - Oregon - 1.65
Deangelo Peterson - TE - LSU - 1.59

Tim Benford - WR - Tennessee Tech - 1.65
Travis Benjamin - WR - Miami (Fl.) - 1.58
Jarrett Boykin - WR - Virginia Tech - 1.58
Lavon Brazill - WR - Ohio - 1.57
Greg Childs - WR - Arkansas - 1.57
Danny Coale - WR - Virginia Tech - 1.57
Michael Floyd - WR - Notre Dame - 1.57
Chris Givens - WR - Wake Forest - 1.52
T.J. Graham - WR - North Carolina State - 1.47
Darius Hanks - WR - Alabama - 1.57
Junior Hemingway - WR - Michigan - 1.53
Stephen Hill - WR - Georgia Tech - 1.49
Jerrell Jackson - WR - Missouri - 1.6
A.J. Jenkins - WR - Illinois - 1.57
Dwight Jones - WR - North Carolina - 1.62
Marvin Jones - WR - California - 1.57
Jermaine Kearse - WR - Washington - 1.56
Rishard Matthews - WR - Nevada - 1.57
Devier Posey - WR - Ohio State - 1.45
Jarius Wright - WR - Arkansas - 1.45
Kendall Wright - WR - Baylor - 1.69
Devon Wylie - WR - Fresno State - 1.53
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Thanks Scott!

Didn't Luke Kuchly get a third attempt because of the desparity of his first two 40 times? That third time may be more revealing of his true burst.
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Devier Posey - WR - Ohio State - 1.45

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I see 1.58 for Posey.
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Multiple sites have all the other data - but not the 10/20 yard splits - have no idea why they are different to the broad jump for example - for some positions the splits are certainly a better indicator of pro success.
Multiple sites do have the 10/20 split times if you know where to look. I have those split times going back to 2006 in a spreadsheet I keep, but they are also available on the internets. It looks like they are just breaking out now for this year.
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Multiple sites do have the 10/20 split times if you know where to look. I have those split times going back to 2006 in a spreadsheet I keep, but they are also available on the internets. It looks like they are just breaking out now for this year.
Anyway I can get that spreadsheet from you? dlien4286@gmail.com Thanks!
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I'm still looking for several too. Here is my spreadsheet with what I have:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Gc&output=html

If you have any that I'm missing, please post it. As you can see, I've used the data collected from many pro days since a lot of these guys weren't at the combine.

I'm also looking for the pro day data from a few prospects.

Jewel Hampton (BJ & Vertical)
Mike Harris - Murray State
Lampford Mark - Nevada
Kenny Turner - New Mexico State
Brock Jackolski - Stony Brook
Gino Crump - Arizona
Donovan Varner - Duke
Derrick Hector - Morehouse
LaQuinton Evans - Southern
Rashaad Carter - Tusculum
Dwayne Frampton - Arkansas State
Trevor Kennedy - Mercyhurst
Cole Beasley - SMU (Shuttle Times)
Ronnie Weaver - UCF
A.J. Guyton - UCF
Josh Linam - UCF
Rich Rossie - Sacred Hart (Shuttle Times)

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Multiple sites do have the 10/20 split times if you know where to look. I have those split times going back to 2006 in a spreadsheet I keep, but they are also available on the internets. It looks like they are just breaking out now for this year.
Got a link to one?
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Got a link to one?
There's one already linked in this thread.
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:53 AM    (permalink
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Must be my eyes - I can't find one!!
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Must be my eyes - I can't find one!!
You're right. Somebody deleted a post in this thread that shared information that this site will not. I don't see the conflict and there's no reason given, so what did we learn? Beats me.
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