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Quarterbacks
1. Andrew Luck : STANFORD
2. Robert Griffin III : BAYLOR
3. Ryan Tannehill : TEXAS A&M
4. Kirk Cousins : MICHIGAN STATE
5. Brandon Weeden : OKLAHOMA STATE
6. Ryan Lindley : SAN DIEGO STATE
7. Russell Wilson : WISCONSIN
8. Nick Foles : ARIZONA
9. Brock Osweiler : ARIZONA STATE
10. BJ Coleman : UT-Chattanooga
11. Chandler Harnish : NORTHERN ILLINOIS
12. Kellen Moore : BOISE STATE
13. Austin Davis : SOUTHERN MISS
14. Dominique Davis : EAST CAROLINA
15. Case Keenum : HOUSTON
Running Backs
1. Trent Richardson : ALABMA
2. Doug Martin : BOISE STATE
3. David Wilson : VIRGINIA TECH
4. Lamar Miller : MIAMI(FL)
5. Isaiah Pead : CINCINNATI
6. Robert Turbin : UTAH STATE
7. Chris Polk : WASHINGTON
8. LaMichael James : OREGON
9. Vick Ballard : MISSISSIPPI STATE
10. Cyrus Gray : TEXAS A&M
11. Chris Rainey : FLORIDA
12. Bernard Pierce : TEMPLE
13. Terrance Ganaway : BAYLOR
14. Ronnie Hillman : SAN DIEGO STATE
15. Edwin Baker : MICHIGAN STATE
Wide Receivers
1. Michael Floyd : NOTRE DAME
2. Justin Blackmon : OKLAHOMA STATE
3. Stephen Hill : GEORGIA TECH
4. Kendall Wright : BAYLOR
5. Alshon Jeffery : SOUTH CAROLINA
6. Chris Givens : WAKE FOREST
7. Rueben Randle : LOUISIANA STATE
8. TY Hilton : FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
9. Tommy Streeter : MIAMI(FL)
10. AJ Jenkins : ILLINOIS
11. Ryan Broyles : OKLAHOMA
12. Mohamed Sanu : RUTGERS
13. Nick Toon : WISCONSIN
14. Brian Quick : APPALACHIAN STATE
15. Marvin Jones : CALIFORNIA
16. Dwight Jones : NORTH CAROLINA
17. Marvin McNutt : IOWA
18. Eric Page : TOLEDO
19. Joe Adams : ARKANSAS
20. Derek Wylie : FRESNO STATE
Tight Ends
1. Coby Fleener : STANFORD
2. Orson Charles : GEORGIA
3. Ladarius Green : LOUSIANA-LAFAYETTE
4. Michael Egnew : MISSOURI
5. Brian Linthicum : MICHIGAN STATE
6. Dwayne Allen : CLEMSON
7. Deangelo Peterson : LOUISIANA STATE
8. James Hanna : OKLAHOMA
9. Evan Rodriguez : TEMPLE
10. Rhett Ellison : USC
Offensive Tackles
1. Matt Kalil : USC
2. Riley Reiff : IOWA
3. Mike Adams : OHIO STATE
4. Bobby Massie : OLE MISS
5. Mitchell Schwartz : CALIFORNIA
6. Matt McCants : UAB
7. Jonathan Martin : STANFORD
8. Jeff Allen : ILLINOIS
9. Zebrie Sanders : FLORIDA STATE
10. Brandon Mosley : AUBURN
11. Tony Bergstrom : UTAH
12. Donald Stephenson : OKLAHOMA
13. Andrew Datko : FLORIDA STATE
14. Markus Zusevics : IOWA
15. Matt Reynolds : BRIGHAM YOUNG
Offensive Guards
1. David DeCastro : STANFORD
2. Kevin Zeitler : WISCONSIN
3. Amini Silatolu : NORTHWESTERN STATE
4. Cordy Glenn : GOERGIA
5. Brandon Brooks : MIAMI(OH)
6. Joe Looney : WAKE FOREST
7. Brandon Washington : MIAMI(FL)
8. James Brown : TROY
9. Kelechie Osemele : IOWA STATE
10. Desmond Wynn : RUTGERS
11. Nate Potter : BOISE STATE
12. Lucas Nix : PITTSBURGH
13. Senio Kelemete : WASHINGTON
14. Rishaw Johnson : CAL U (PA)
15. Adam Gettis : IOWA
Centers
1. Peter Konz : WISCONSIN
2. Mike Brewster : OHIO STATE
3. Philip Blake : BAYLOR
4. David Molk : MICHIGAN
5. Ben Jones : GEORGIA
Defensive Ends
1. Cam Johnson : VIRGINIA
2. Chandler Jones : SYRACUSE
3. Vinny Curry : MARSHALL
4. Quinton Coples : NORTH CAROLINA
5. Nick Perry : USC
6. Jake Bequette : ARKANSAS
7. Whitney Mercilus : ILLINOIS
8. Jared Crick : NEBRASKA
9. Billy Winn : BOISE STATE
10. Tyrone Crawford : BOISE STATE
11. Trevor Guyton : CALIFORNIA
12. Malik Jackson : TENNESEE
13. Frank Alexander : OKLHAOMA
14. Oliver Vernon : MIAMI(FL)
15. Scott Solomon : RICE
Defensive Tackles
1. Fletcher Cox : MISSISSIPPI STATE
2. Kendall Reyes : UCONN
3. Jerel Worthy : MICHIGAN STATE
4. Michael Brockers : LOUISIANA STATE
5. Derek Wolfe : CINCINNATI
6. Dontari Poe : MEMPHIS
7. Devon Still : PENN STATE
8. Alameda Ta’amu : WASHINGTON
9. Mike Martin : MICHIGAN
10. Josh Chapman : ALABAMA
11. Brandon Thompson : CLEMSON
12. DaJohn Harris : USC
13. Jaye Howard : FLORIDA
14. Kheeston Randall : TEXAS
15. Markus Kuhn : NORTH CAROLINA STATE
Outside Linebackers
1. Melvin Ingram : SOUTH CAROLINA
2. Shea McClellin : BOISE STATE
3. Andre Branch : CLEMSON
4. Courtney Upshaw : ALABAMA
5. Audie Cole : NORTH CAROLINA STATE
6. Lavonte David : NEBRSAKA
7. Zach Brown : NORTH CAROLINA
8. Sean Spence : MIAMI(FL)
9. Bruce Irvin : WEST VIRGINIA
10. Keenan Robinson : TEXAS
11. Nigel Bradham : FLORIDA STATE
12. Terrell Manning : NORTH CAROLINA STATE
13. Ronnell Lewis : OKLAHOMA
14. Jonathan Massaquoi : TROY
15. Demario Davis : ARKANSAS STATE
Middle Linebackers
1. Luke Kuechly : BOSTON COLLEGE
2. Don’t’a Hightower : ALABAMA
3. Mychal Hendricks : CALIFORNIA
4. Bobby Wagner : UTAH STATE
5. Tank Carder : TCU
6. Jerry Franklin : ARKANSAS
7. James-Michael Johnson : NEVADA
8. Emmanuel Acho : TEXAS
9. Vontaze Burfict : ARIZONA STATE
10. Travis Lewis : OKLAHOMA
Cornerbacks
1. Morris Claiborne : LOUISIANA STATE
2. Casey Hayward : VANDERBILT
3. Dre Kirkpatrick : ALABAMA
4. Brandon Boykin : GEORGIA
5. Dwight Bentley : LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE
6. Janoris Jenkins : NORTH ALABAMA
7. Josh Robinson : CENTRAL FLORIDA
8. Stephon Gilmore : SOUTH CAROLINA
9. Alfonzo Dennard : NEBRASKA
10. Trumaine Johnson : MONTANA
11. Jayron Hosley : VIRGINIA TECH
12. Chase Minnifield : VIRGINIA
13. Ron Brooks : LOUISIANA STATE
14. Jamell Fleming : OKLAHOMA
15. Asa Jackson : CAL-POLY
Safeties
1. Harrison Smith : NOTRE DAME
2. Mark Barron : ALABAMA
3. George Iloka : BOISE STATE
4. Markelle Martin : OKLAHOMA STATE
5. Winston Guy Jr. : KENTUCKY
6. Christian Thompson : SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
7. Antonio Allen : SOUTH CAROLINA
8. Trenton Robinson : MICHIGAN STATE
9. Philip Thomas : SYRACUSE
10. Brandon Taylor : LOUISIANA STATE
Top 32
1. Andrew Luck : QB : STANFORD
2. Robert Griffin III : QB : BAYLOR
3. Matt Kalil : OT : USC
4. Luke Kuechly : LB : BOSTON COLLEGE
5. Morris Claiborne : CB : LOUISIANA STATE
6. Trent Richardson : RB : ALABAMA
7. David DeCastro : OG : STANFORD
8. Fletcher Cox : DT : MISSISSIPPI STATE
9. Riley Reiff : OT : IOWA
10. Cam Johnson : DE : VIRGINIA
11. Michael Floyd : WR : NOTRE DAME
12. Chandler Jones : DE : SYRACUSE
13. Dont’a Hightower : LB : ALABAMA
14. Justin Blackmon : WR : OKLAHOMA STATE
15. Peter Konz : C : WISCONSIN
16. Mychal Kendricks : LB : CALIFORNIA
17. Melvin Ingram : LB : SOUTH CAROLINA
18. Doug Martin : RB : BOISE STATE
19. Vinny Curry : DE : MARSHALL
20. Harrison Smith : S : NOTRE DAME
21. Casey Hayward : CB : VANDERBILT
22. Kevin Zeitler : OG : WISCONSIN
23. Quinton Coples : DE : NORTH CAROLINA
24. Shea McClellin : LB : BOISE STATE
25. Amini Silatolu : OG : NORTHWESTERN STATE
26. Stephen Hill : WR : GEORGIA TECH
27. Kendall Reyes : DT : UCONN
28. Mark Barron : S : ALABAMA
29. Mike Adams : OT : OHIO STATE
30. Dre Kirkpatrick : CB : ALABAMA
31. Ryan Tannehill : QB : TEXAS A&M
32. Nick Perry : DE : USC
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A few guys who seem quite low to me are Osweiler and Sanu. What makes you so low on them?
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.
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The only part I found myself thinking you were way off base was the DT spot. Otherwise, I agree with you on a lot of things. Love the love for Pead, Schwartz, Mclellin.
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A few guys who seem quite low to me are Osweiler and Sanu. What makes you so low on them?
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Osweiler -- not an experienced quarterback, pretty good feet for a big guy but still not a great athlete, his accuracy/ball placement is shaky...overall a big time project
Sanu -- not a very physical receiver and lacks the ability to separate...possession type receiver at the next level
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Why is Glenn so low?
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The only part I found myself thinking you were way off base was the DT spot. Otherwise, I agree with you on a lot of things. Love the love for Pead, Schwartz, Mclellin.
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Tough part about the defensive tackle position is which player are you gonna get with the likes of Worthy, Brockers, and Poe? Worthy comes in ahead of Brockers and Poe because if he doesn't reach his potential I think he'll still be a good rotational player and can be disruptive...Brockers has at least proven that he can have production against some of the best and his ceiling has some intrigue...Poe possesses all the physical tools that anyone could ask for out of a human being his size and you have to think the potential is great but his tape at Memphis suggests otherwise
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I wouldn't say Glenn being 4th is a slap in the face at all...I just like what I see out of DeCastro, Zeitler, and Silatolu more
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Damn, Coples the 4th best DE?
Gilmore the 8th best CB in the draft? Wowzerss..
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Damn, Coples the 4th best DE?
Gilmore the 8th best CB in the draft? Wowzerss..
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both players possess underwhelming play from this past season to back up where they're being projected (Coples possibly top 10 and Gilmore possibly top 20) or where they sit in the majority of rankings out there
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+1 and why is he on the guard list? the dude ran far better than reiff, martin and adams. he's a tackle dammit.
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+1 and why is he on the guard list? the dude ran far better than reiff, martin and adams. he's a tackle dammit.
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he might be a right tackle but I think his best fit is inside at guard
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he might be a right tackle but I think his best fit is inside at guard
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people say that but it's not true. He's worked out better than every major tackle except Kalil. he ran a 4.9 at 340 that's not a guard workout.
also im not trying to pile on but what could you possibly have seen out of silatolu ? are you getting tape from midwestern state?
if so please pass it around. the dude is well regarded and no one's seen him.
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people say that but it's not true. He's worked out better than every major tackle except Kalil. he ran a 4.9 at 340 that's not a guard workout.
also im not trying to pile on but what could you possibly have seen out of silatolu ? are you getting tape from midwestern state?
if so please pass it around. the dude is well regarded and no one's seen him.
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I have watch some tape on him (there is some out there) and he's a tremendous athlete with a non-stop motor and is a mauler in the running game...granted footage of him isn't quite as abundant as most other prospects but from what I have seen, Amini is the real deal
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Foles is horrible. DO NOT RANK.
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x2 on foles Moore > Foles even with his height issue .
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Outside the box thinking for sure. I can appreciate that but some of them are a little too bizarre, like Cam Johnson ranked the 10th best player in the draft.
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You have to worry about a QB that stank at his own pro day as Foles did!
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I have watch some tape on him (there is some out there) and he's a tremendous athlete with a non-stop motor and is a mauler in the running game...granted footage of him isn't quite as abundant as most other prospects but from what I have seen, Amini is the real deal
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The trouble is it's all against smaller D2 defensive lineman - him not playing in the Senior Bowl means you always have the level of competition question with him. I've seen him in mocks in the late 1st round, but to me it would be a gamble - particularly when you look at all the other G/RT prospects out there this year.
A lot of the smaller school guys this year had tape vs FBS opposition (Ryan Steed gave up 2 TD's at Florida; Josh Norman the same at Georgia; Brian Quick was shut down by Hosley in the Virginia Tech game; Trumaine Johnson looked like he belonged in the Tennessee game; Emil Igwenagu looked good against BC) - so far easier to project than Amini. Not the easiest position to use athletic numbers from the Combine either.
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+Rep for this awesome effort! Nicely done.
Overall I really like the new take. But like everyone else, I gotta throw my 2 cents in.
-Am I the only one here that believes Michael Floyd will be a bust?
-I like the CB rankings, but if you were gonna mix things up, why not put Josh Robinson in the top 5?
-LaMichael James at 8?? Really? I think 3-4 is what you meant.
-Zebrie Sanders at 9? IMO, he's a top 5 OT in this draft.
-Love Mychal Kendricks at 3
-I really like Harrison Smith, but I think George Iloka might turn out to be the better pro yet.
-Chase Minnifield is one of the hardest working players in this draft. Holy underrated.
-I like the Mercilus slip, but Coples is definitely better than 4.
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+Rep for this awesome effort! Nicely done.
Overall I really like the new take. But like everyone else, I gotta throw my 2 cents in.
-Am I the only one here that believes Michael Floyd will be a bust?
-I like the CB rankings, but if you were gonna mix things up, why not put Josh Robinson in the top 5?
-LaMichael James at 8?? Really? I think 3-4 is what you meant.
-Zebrie Sanders at 9? IMO, he's a top 5 OT in this draft.
-Love Mychal Kendricks at 3
-I really like Harrison Smith, but I think George Iloka might turn out to be the better pro yet.
-Chase Minnifield is one of the hardest working players in this draft. Holy underrated.
-I like the Mercilus slip, but Coples is definitely better than 4.
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I used to be a big critic of Floyd but he's won me over. He's got good speed, wonderful body control when going to get the football, and excels at blocking
Josh Robinson may have more physical gifts than some of the corners ranked ahead of him but he's also more of a project too
James is a change of pace back and someone that has no chance of being a feature back in the league so that explains his ranking
Zebrie Sanders has some absolutely awful moments this year and will need a considerable amount of coaching to be a capable player at the next level
Minnifield might be a hard worker but he wasn't a good player this season compared to years prior
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Ryan Lindley was awful this season. I don't see how he's ranked ahead of Russell Wilson, Foles, and Osweiler.
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Ryan Lindley was awful this season. I don't see how he's ranked ahead of Russell Wilson, Foles, and Osweiler.
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Lindley was not good this season, i agree, but he has shown great ability in the past and as far as the quarterback position goes, he's a guy worth taking a shot on and developing
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Definitely think you are trying to hard to be a bit different, which is not a good thing when it comes to the NFL Draft. I commend the work and no disrespect, but please don't become a secondary scout lol.
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I actually prefer PF28's rankings over anyone else's on this board. There's a lot of group think that goes on here, and not being a great evaluator of talent myself, I appreciate that he can bring a different perspective and not back down because everyone else thinks it's "too outlandish."
+rep sir
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