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Old 05-08-2014, 09:59 AM    (permalink
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The question I have about Clowney is, why is Houston trying so hard to trade out of the #1 overall pick if Clowney is such a sure thing???? It just makes me think that Clowney has serious red flags and is more of a boom or bust project than we think.

I hope he is great because I absolutely hate wasted talent and he is loaded with that, but his intangibles scare the hell out of me.
Trying so hard is a stretch. They are asking for an RG3 type package and have a GM who prefers to trade down. I think they are comfortable staying at #1 if they aren't overwhelmed. I also think part of the equation is that they don't have a QB
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I'd love someone like Joyner or Ward in the 2nd, as they are both guys who can create turnovers IMO. That will be a big key for us.
I like ward a lot. If we added Gilbert and Ward in round 1 and 2 there would be no complaints from me. Both guys have the potential to be big time playmakers in this league and in a year or 2 our secondary should be a big strength.

Candidates in a trade down are Jets and Miami. Supposedly Miami wants Zach Martin badly. Scott seems very confident the Gmen will take him at #12 so we could be the perfect trade partner with them.
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I wouldn't want to trade 3 1sts for clowney either, or really anybody, but if the lions are thinking of trading up id much rather prefer clowney, mack, robinson or matthews over one of the wrs. The wr draft is just too deep this year for that type of move and we could better improve our team by getting a top flight talent at a different position and then filling wr in the 2nd or 3rd.

Personally, I think if the lions want to mortgage the future it shouldnt be to move up from 10, but to get additional 1st round picks, like our 3rd and 2015 1st for 28-30. Just imagine, though unrealistic, but a trade back from 10 to 16 and a 2nd and then we package our 3rd with a 2015 1st for #29. We could get Dennard, Shazier, Ward and Moncrief in the 1st and 2nd rounds and then snag a c like Stork in the 4th. A lot of holes filled with serious prospects at positions in flux. Id much rather have that than just Clowney.
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I like ward a lot. If we added Gilbert and Ward in round 1 and 2 there would be no complaints from me. Both guys have the potential to be big time playmakers in this league and in a year or 2 our secondary should be a big strength.

Candidates in a trade down are Jets and Miami. Supposedly Miami wants Zach Martin badly. Scott seems very confident the Gmen will take him at #12 so we could be the perfect trade partner with them.
I could see the rams, cowboys, jets and dolphins wanting to move up with the lions in mind. It could get interesting.
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Very curious to see how things fall before us. Guys like Donald and Lewan going in the top 9 would be huge. Come on 3 QBs!
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Is there a stud though? Who is it?

Nobody seems confident enough, across the net, to say that any of Ha Ha, Dennard,Pryor,Fuller etc. are surefire studs. If there was a Patrick Petersen in this class, he' be the guy I wanted in a trade up.

Our DL isn't a problem, but it isn't perfect either. Fairley is probably leaving next year and we don't have a sack producer opposite Ansah.
I wouldn't have a problem with Barr, tremendous upside since he only played defense for 2 years and could be a solid pass rusher with all the other studs on defensive line.

I can also handle Fuller or Gilbert or Dennard or Pryor who I think would be solid as well. Pryor, because SS is more of a need than FS and Pryor could be an enforcer that our defense seems to lack at the back end.
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Very curious to see how things fall before us. Guys like Donald and Lewan going in the top 9 would be huge. Come on 3 QBs!
Agreed, I am hoping for something like this....

1.) Clowney
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6.) Matthews
7.) Donald
8.) Bortles
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Supposedly Raiders may like Evans more than Watkins.

But yeah I think Evans can certainly fall to us
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I'm thinking either Watkins or Mack is going to fall to 5. If so, I expect us to be calling Oakland
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10,Fairley and a 4th to get to 5 for Mack!

Move back in the 2nd, regain a 4th and take the best WR left. Landry,Adams,Robinson,Matthews etc.
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I'm hoping that the quarterbacks are still there and allows us to trade down because teams want to get ahead of Tennessee.
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I just don't want to pick at 10. Whether that is a trade up or trade down. I want to move away from 10
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I just don't want a DT or OT.
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I just don't want a DT or OT.
I'm with you on that. If Mathews is there and we take him I will bite my tongue, but it's not what I want.
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What's everyone's final prediction? I'm gonna say a trade up to take mike Evans
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If we are at #10. I predict Beckham.

Trade up for Mack/Watkins?Evans

Trade down for a DB
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Bortles at #3! that's big!
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ok I want a move for Mack
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Not shaping up good if no trade I guess dennard or haha?
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We didn't even try to trade. We turned our pick in immediately.
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HaHa and Dennard sliding. Any chance of a trade down?

Liking our odds of Ward being there at 45 more and more
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