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Old 05-05-2012, 09:28 AM    (permalink
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It's hard not to make mistakes and to get a game balanced. Especially a large one. Hell, I completely ****** up the Firefly game and it was a relatively small one, and maybe the 10th one I've modded (not all were here). Props to BB for making a game that, while it had some flaws, was still very enjoyable. I had fun.
The huge demand for night roles on this board make the balance a much bigger issue then if you went for a more traditional set of roles.
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For one, I don't have a problem with Jensen or TH's participation, or others that weren't as mentionned but posted about the same. They both read the thread, they both posted when they could, they both posted enough to tell what they had to tell and have us thinking. For example, TH in particular didn't post very much, but, as opposed to some players posting 100 times a bunch of useless one-liners, TH's posts were actually quite well-thought, very informing and quite enjoyable to read, much more than about any other post in the game. I'd rather have everyone post less but post something with some content in it. Then I wouldn't have 15 pages of mostly semi-to-non-interesting stuff to read when I come back. And I'm kind of guilty of that too.
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I psyched myself out more than a few times. I'd write up 4-5 paragraphs, preview it a half dozen times, and then decide not to post it. I'd panic cause I didn't want to screw up somehow. And that was stupid since it was harder for me to get caught, so forcing the others to handle the talking was just selfish.

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i'm not sure why you think i was getting 'riled up'.
Sorry buddy. I was speaking generally, and I didn't mean to imply it had been you. I think that was the first time I've seen you even mention it. I have a bad habit of starting a post with a quote, and by the end of the post, the initial quote doesn't concern what I'm talking about anymore. Heh...

All things aside, I do want to thank BB again for modding this. A 30 player theme game on your first try? Kid's ceiling is through the roof.

And as far as the roles go, BB himself told us how he regretted more than one thing, and that's good enough for me even if no one else will sympathize. In fact, some roles gave other roles away by apparent accident, some roles seemed like they were used without strategy, and some weren't even used at all (lookin' at you SP!), so they kinda backfired at times, lol. So yeah, I'm over it.

Oh, and any FF fans really missed out in the mafia chat. BB and R4L were goin' nonstop one night. I tried to keep up, but I only ended confusing myself. (STILL CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY ADVENT CHILDREN, BB!)
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:25 AM    (permalink
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Wow well done Town. BB you did a great job on this and games from you should only get better from here. My first game sucked monkey balls so I understand how hard it is to make these things.
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Haha that's an inside joke between TH BB and I...good times good times
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:40 AM    (permalink
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It's tricky because while you have guys who may not post enough, you have guys like Bulldogs who posted 246 times in this thread. That's 35 posts a day!

There's a really bad aspect of making the roles random. If you get a bunch of inexperienced or quiet guys on one team, then things get skewed even if the roles are balanced. I really don't think the mafia was that inactive. Like I said, only Jensen and I were bad. The rest were either up to par (Renji, Scotty, Rob, R4L) or died super early (Todd and McGee). It's just that the town had guys like Bulldogs, JBond, Vidae, Dr. Gonzo, and yourself who are heavy posters. It's hard to compete with that, let alone dominate it, especially when with so much info, it only fuels the conversation fires. Not to mention the deterrence that a Lie Detector creates. That was a big reward for Renji's activity. He was our most active poster, and it got him honed in on by Ngata.
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For the record, I don't expect everybody to have 35 posts a day. Hell, I don't expect most people to have more than 10 posts a day. But I think between 5-10 posts should be expected. If not, you're really not adding much to the game anyway. If you miss one day or only get in a post or two, make up for it the next day with 10 posts. Leave your thoughts on that day and say who you think is suspicious. Plenty of people wet the bed with that this game: GallopingGhost, TitanHope, Jensen, Jvig, Goosemahn. I'm not singling out one guy with this.
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i'm not sure why you think i was getting 'riled up'. as i said, i get that real life takes priority over a football board (let alone a game *on* a football board).



what's being suggested is: don't be shocked if the mafia loses when it doesn't have a ton of activity. frankly, i couldn't care less if you never post in the game. but then don't act like (and i'm not meaning YOU jensen, so much as a generic you) the game is unbalanced or you were at a disadvantage and that's why you* lost.

like TH showed, it's not like i was here every three minutes to post either. but i also wouldn't have expected to win if i was evil as a result. *shrug*
This is a good point. The mafia won for the first time in forever in the DBZ game because Caddy and I dominated the discussion. Even Gonzo when he was still alive talked alot which resulted in a standstill and eventual no lynch that hurt the town. We decided during own night talk that dominating the discussion is the best way to win. If you choose not to speak, that's your prerogative, but don't be surprised when your team loses.
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Either side that lost probably would have claimed that the other side was overpowered. I think in the future, i should spread that power out so, for instance, if what happened to Renji on day 2 happens again, it wouldn't cripple that side completely.

I'll do better next time around.
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Either side that lost probably would have claimed that the other side was overpowered. I think in the future, i should spread that power out so, for instance, if what happened to Renji on day 2 happens again, it wouldn't cripple that side completely.

I'll do better next time around.
You did fine for a first time imo BB. Game was fun and I loved letting out my inner nerd talking about FF the whole time haha
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Either side that lost probably would have claimed that the other side was overpowered. I think in the future, i should spread that power out so, for instance, if what happened to Renji on day 2 happens again, it wouldn't cripple that side completely.

I'll do better next time around.
Yup, that NEEDS to be taken into consideration. If ANY role dies Day 1, it can't be a killing blow. That happened to bad guys in Star Wars (surprisingly with Renji's death). Don't have grand plans for a role, they can die Day 1. Keep it simple.
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You did fine for a first time imo BB. Game was fun and I loved letting out my inner nerd talking about FF the whole time haha
Ya, it was a good game, and entertaining. That's the goal!
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I'll do better next time around.
you did great. if i had to implement that many roles id fail miserably. just trying to give you pointers
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For the record, I don't expect everybody to have 35 posts a day. Hell, I don't expect most people to have more than 10 posts a day. But I think between 5-10 posts should be expected. If not, you're really not adding much to the game anyway. If you miss one day or only get in a post or two, make up for it the next day with 10 posts. Leave your thoughts on that day and say who you think is suspicious. Plenty of people wet the bed with that this game: GallopingGhost, TitanHope, Jensen, Jvig, Goosemahn. I'm not singling out one guy with this.
I don't know. Most of the time I see someone posting 10 times in one day, 7 of those posts are just a bunch of repeating what's already been said. What's the point? It's not like those 7 posts are really contributing in any way either. + TH posted like 10 times max in the game and I feel every single one of his posts were more contributing than 10 posts combined from anybody else.

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I don't know. Most of the time I see someone posting 10 times in one day, 7 of those posts are just a bunch of repeating what's already been said. What's the point?
Another thing that kills me is, some of the ppl who post a lot, also seem to miss a lot and ask **** that's already been covered.
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It does move pretty quick, bound to happen. It happens in any Mafia game, live or otherwise.
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It does move pretty quick, bound to happen. It happens in any Mafia game, live or otherwise.
I understand those, but I mean, I seen a few ppl do it on the same page
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I understand those, but I mean, I seen a few ppl do it on the same page
We all know you are talking about SP. He is an anomaly.
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We all know you are talking about SP. He is an anomaly.
lmao....i said nothing!!
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We all know you are talking about SP. He is an anomaly.
I guessed that as well haha.
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Another thing that kills me is, some of the ppl who post a lot, also seem to miss a lot and ask **** that's already been covered.
Yeah I've never done this. Usually I'm the one explaining.
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Yeah I've never done this. Usually I'm the one explaining.
Not throwing names out or burning ppl or w.e. but I have seen it a few times.
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Yeah I've never done this. Usually I'm the one explaining.
You do repost and claim you were page trapped every other page. Guess what, nobody cares. Post once and be done with that thought.
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