Top 5 of Each Position (Offense)

[Bulldogs]

The issue with Roddy last year was drops. He dropped a couple game winning balls and was really never consistent over the year. Hopefully he returns to form this season, because he was a beast before. An improved Julio and Roddy White showing up again would make our offense pretty killer.

[The Alex]

Even if Roddy dropped some important catches, he still caught more than anybody else in the NFC. I understand circumstance and "when it matters" and all that, but he's still a damn fine receiver.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

People still consider Clady a top 3-4 tackle?

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

No. He's a top 10 guy to me.

i'd put clady, as mentioned, somewhere between 4-8ish, probably. he's a step below the elite guys.

[GallopingGhost]

Wes Welker has to be considered a top 10 guy.

[Bulldogs]

Originally Posted by The Alex

Even if Roddy dropped some important catches, he still caught more than anybody else in the NFC. I understand circumstance and "when it matters" and all that, but he's still a damn fine receiver.

I'd have to look at the stats but I'd be willing to bet he was targeted much more as well. Hell, Julio Jones when healthy last year looked better than Roddy. It wasn't just a couple balls. Still, I'd consider Roddy top 10 right now and if he works hard this offseason I have no doubt he'll return to '08-10 form.

[Complex]

Originally Posted by njx9

i'd put clady, as mentioned, somewhere between 4-8ish, probably. he's a step below the elite guys.

Isn't top 5 elite?

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Complex

Isn't top 5 elite?

i don't think there's a specific cut off. further, you could argue that the elite guys are the orlando paces and willie roafs. i don't think there are 5 of those in the nfl right now. *shrug* that said, if you think there *are* 5 or more truly elite LTs, i wouldn't argue with clady being in the next group down.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Complex

Isn't top 5 elite?

Is Eli, big Ben, Stafford, rivers or whoever is your#5 QB as good as Brady, Rodgers, Peyton and Brees?

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

People still think Michael Bush is underated? He handled the load for a grand total of four games and then played like dogshit. And to bears fans, just pray to god they don't keep him in on passing downs, Cutler will have his head taken off.
He's good with ball security though, I'll give him that.

[TitanHope]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

RG

1. Jahri Evans
2. Harvey Dahl
3. Marshal Yanda
4. Jake Scott
5. Brian Waters

Why in God's name do you have Jake Scott in your Top 5, BB?

[tjsunstein]

I think Curtis Painter being bottom 3 players ever contributed a lot to the Colts lack of success too. Put Painter at the helm of NO and I bet he struggles to average 150 yards of total offense. Peyton is good but no way is he better than Brees, Brady, Rodgers now if he wasn't before... I think he's a bit overrated at this point if you have him Top 3. He didn't play a whole season. You can't replace that missed time.

[bearsfan_51]

Originally Posted by doingthisinsteadofwork

People still think Michael Bush is underated? He handled the load for a grand total of four games and then played like dogshit. And to bears fans, just pray to god they don't keep him in on passing downs, Cutler will have his head taken off.
He's good with ball security though, I'll give him that.

Ah yes, the "he's not on my team anymore so now I think he's terrible" routine. It's a standard practice in the off-season. Bush is a great #2 back.

[RCAChainGang]

Originally Posted by HeavyLeggedWaistBender

^Love it when people say "this" league. As if they're in it in any form themselves. :P

Anywhozers, I haven't seen Brandon Marshall on any ones list. Wussupwitdat?

:55 - 1:05

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Ah yes, the "he's not on my team anymore so now I think he's terrible" routine. It's a standard practice in the off-season. Bush is a great #2 back.

bearsfan using a hasty generalization, who'd a thunk?
Saying Michael Bush is underrated would have made more sense about 2-3 years ago, as it would imply he isn't seeing enough playing time or a big enough salary, or enough attention in general. But after the amount of playing time he has seen the past two seasons, based off his performance, I fail to see how he is underated.

[gpngc]

01. Aaron Rodgers
02. Peyton Manning
03. Tom Brady
04. Drew Brees
05. Eli Manning
06. Ben Roethlisberger
07. Philip Rivers
08. Matt Stafford
09. Jay Cutler
10. Michael Vick
11. Cam Newton
12. Tony Romo
13. Matt Ryan
14. Matt Schaub
15. Joe Flacco
16. Carson Palmer
17. Ryan Fitzpatrick
18. Matt Hasselbeck
19. Josh Freeman
20. Andy Dalton

RB
01. Adrian Peterson
02. LeSean McCoy
03. Ray Rice
04. Maurice Jones-Drew
05. Arian Foster
06. Matt Forte
07. Marshawn Lynch
08. Darren McFadden
09. Steven Jackson
10. Chris Johnson
11. Jamaal Charles
12. Willis McGahee
13. Frank Gore
14. Fred Jackson
15. Reggie Bush
16. Darren Sproles
17. Jahvid Best
18. Ryan Mathews
19. Ahamd Bradshaw
20. Jonathan Stewart
21. DeMarco Murray
22. LeGarrette Blount
23. Beanie Wells
24. C.J. Spiller
25. DeAngelo Williams
26. Roy Helu
27. Rashard Mendenhall
28. Michael Turner
29. Ben Tate
30. Pierre Thomas
31. Michael Bush
32. BenJarvus Green-Ellis
33. Peyton Hillis
34. Mark Ingram
35. Shonn Greene

WR
01. Calvin Johnson
02. Larry Fitzgerald
03. Andre Johnson
04. Greg Jennings
05. Steve Smith
06. Hakeem Nicks
07. Mike Wallace
08. Brandon Marshall
09. A.J. Green
10. Dwayne Bowe
11. Julio Jones
12. Jordy Nelson
13. Percy Harvin
14. Roddy White
15. Reggie Wayne
16. DeSean Jackson
17. Kenny Britt
18. Marques Colston
19. Santonio Holmes
20. Dez Bryant
21. Vincent Jackson
22. Jeremy Maclin
23. Wes Welker
24. Victor Cruz
25. Antonio Brown
26. Steve Johnson
27. Miles Austin
28. Sidney Rice
29. Brandon Lloyd
30. Laurent Robinson
31. Eric Decker
32. Nate Washington
33. Demariyus Thomas
34. Pierre Garcon
35. Denarius Moore
36. Anquan Boldin
37. Michael Crabtree
38. Darrius Heyward-Bey
39. Torrey Smith
40. Mike Williams TB
41. Robert Meachem

[RCAChainGang]

I just glanced at that list to be honest, but Michael Turner at 28? I'd have him in my top 15 at least.

[K Train]

that running back list gets rough after 6

[SuperMcGee]

I sort of agree. Jackson was way ahead of Lynch when that trade happened and just played the best of his career last season. There's the youth factor, but Jackson is a much, much better asset in the passing game. Lynch drops below a number of other guys, for me.

Also couldn't say I'm that high on McGahee. He does still impress me some of the time and there aren't too many well established guys beneath him (that aren't tailing off), but meh.

[mightytitan9]

Originally Posted by K Train

that running back list gets rough after 6

I agree, it seems like there's the 3-4 guys that are on top, then you could put the next 5-7 in different orders.

And I agree on McGahee, I think i'd have a hard time ranking him top 20

[gpngc]

McGahee played brilliantly last season and Turner is a shell of himself at this point that only had respectable numbers because of two monster games against the skeleton defense of Tampa that gave up completely.

And Lynch produced in the passing game and was easily better than everyone ranked below him on that list, save for maybe Fred Jackson, and maybe talent-wise DMac or Charles (who obviously fall due to not playing).

[tjsunstein]

Julio Jones over Jordy Nelson? I'm not so sure about that. Is it just the homer in me or does anyone else agree?

[gpngc]

Jones is more talented, but Nelson is arguably the better receiver at this point, so it's a fair argument.

[tjsunstein]

Originally Posted by gpngc

Jones is more talented, but Nelson is arguably the better receiver at this point, so it's a fair argument.

There's not much discrepancy between the two no matter who is above the other, and I'm probably nitpicking, but Jones hasn't shown me on the field or stat sheet that he is a better WR than Nelson although there's no denying his potential. I obviously watch more of Jordy than any other WR on a week to week basis so I may not be as objective as someone else.

[Nalej]

Welker at 23 is a joke. Homer or no homer.

[mightytitan9]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Julio Jones over Jordy Nelson? I'm not so sure about that. Is it just the homer in me or does anyone else agree?

I noticed that too. Making these lists are hard, so I don't make too much of a fuss about little things like that.

To me, Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Victor Cruz are way too low.

While guys like: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Percy Harvin are way too high