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2013 Draft Team Needs Thread
Yeah, I know its a little early for this, but I came across a mock that makes me think this is necessary. Post Team Needs in this thread, and be as specific as possible (example: Don't just say you need a CB, indicate zone or press man, depending on your defense) so the people who actually care to look at scheme fits for their mocks will have a better idea of what to do this early.
At this point, most people feel good about their teams, so only the first few needs will be mentioned here, but no one is doing 7 round mock drafts this far ahead anyway, so list the major needs and type of player at each position that fits your team at this point. I will edit this post as people come in with Team Needs so it will all be on this opening post so whoever is making the mocks can just come here and get as much info on the types of players at each position for each team as possible. Generally speaking, I'll take the advice of the fans of each team, but there are a few guys who I'm sure will post in here that are knowledgeable enough on other teams that I will put in this post then too. I'll also be attributing who gave me what info in this post, I think its fair that way.
AFC East
Buffalo Bills:
Miami Dolphins:(via Phins827)
OLB
WR
FS
OG (Zone Blocking scheme match)
CB
New England Patriots:(via Matthew Jones and Razor)
DE
WR
DT (good anchor, two gapper)
C/RG/RT depending on Free Agency
DB (Safety)
Bellicheck also seems to favor SEC athletes in early rounds, something to keep in mind...
New York Jets:
AFC North
Baltimore Ravens:
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Cleveland Browns:
Pittsburgh Steelers:(via K Train)
Safety (Strong and Free)
ILB (if competition underwhelms opposite Timmons)
Versatile, Physical CB (plays both Man and Zone)
Guard (Man)
WR (if one or both of Ben's top two targets leave after the off-season)
AFC South
Houston Texans:
Indianapolis Colts:(via RCA Chain Gang)
CB
ILB
OG
DE (5 tech type)
WR
Jacksonville Jaguars:(via Unbiased)
Man CB
Man on Man Interior OL (Center)
Tennessee Titans:
AFC West
Denver Broncos:9via Dangermouse)
DT
OT
RB
Kansas City Chiefs:(via villagewarrior)
QB
OLB (pass rusher)
DE (5 tech)
Oakland Raiders:
San Diego Chargers:
NFC East
Dallas Cowboys:(via cmd 34)
Safety (free and strong)
Center
OLB
DL
Philadelphia Eagles:
Safety (SS over FS at this point, both could be needs)
Zone Blocking OT
Press-Man CB
New York Giants:(via OSUGiants17)
OT (LT and/or RT)
DE
Safety
ILB
Center
Washington Redskins:
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Chicago Bears:
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Green Bay Packers:(via Superpacker)
Center
Safety
RB
OG
Minnesota Vikings:(via prock)
WR
LB
DT
CB
NFC South
Atlanta Falcons:
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers:(via Knicks and Bucs)
CB
OLB
RT
TE
QB(if Freeman doesn't progress?)
NFC West
Arizona Cardinals:(via fenikz)
LT
QB
DE
St. Louis Rams:
San Francisco 49ers:(via phylsac)
CB
S
WR
DL
Seattle Seahawks:
Could someone show me how to change font please? I want to make the division font slightly bigger so its easier to read. Also, if a mod thinks its necessary (aka if this is useful enough), could this get stickied? I figure its best to put this in this sub-forum since we aren't in full 2013 draft form yet, and it'll be best used for people looking at these mocks and making their own.
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I'll do the Eagles as an example...
Right now our biggest need on paper is Safety. We have questions at both positions, lack of experience with young guys that need to prove themselves if they want to remain a starter. Right now I'd say we are looking for a more physical Safety capable of playing SS moreso than a rangy FS, though by seasons end either or both may be needed.
Offensive Tackle is a question mark heading into the season with Jason Peters and Detestress Bell's situations. I personally don't think OT will be a early round priority, but with the Eagles track record of valuing linemen, we could be looking at an OT early anyway. Preferably an athletic linemen who fits Howard Mudd's Zone Blocking Scheme.
CB could also be a big need, DRC is unproven and Aso isn't young. The current defense in place calls for press-man CBs, so if you are looking at CBs in your mocks early for the Eagles, try to look for feasible press-man type CBs.
Those are what I would say are our most likely early picks next year, at this point, I really don't see any other reason to have any other types of players drafted by the Eagles unless it is a player of great value falling.
Also, your posts don't need to be as in depth as mine, you could just list the types of players and that's it, but if you offer up some explanation, it'd really help out everyone making mocks, and also make me more likely to take what you are saying seriously and put it in the original post...
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Also, if you have some proof to back up intangible draft history (team captains preferred, red flag history, etc...) I'll include that in the original post as well...
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All I know for the Jaguars right now is that we'll for sure need a CB to replace Mathis (big Man-2-Man CB like Derek Cox) and a Center to replace Meester. They could add a guard and move Rackley to C, so interior OL is what I'd call it.
Those are the only no brainers because they're old and they'll be free agents. We could have a lot more depending on how people play. We'll get a lot of questions answered throughout this season.
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Thanks, do you know what type of blocking scheme the Jags would run that could narrow down the Interior OL candidates down some?
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I can help ya out with TB.
Needs:
CB - The bucs did not address this need this year, but the corners in 2013 draft are much better than this years so maybe a blessing in disguise. Tyrann Mathieu is who I am hoping for.
RT - Jeremy Trueblood is below average. The rest of the line is set except for RT. Not as big as CB or OLB, but a need that should be looked at.
OLB - Foster and David have two of the three spots filled. Which leaves on more. Mante Te'o would be ideal for the final spot.
TE - Lot of bucs fans says this is a need. I really like Luke Stocker and Winslow is a turd. If Stocker does not work out then this will be a need.
QB - If Tampa finishes in the top 5 or top 10 then it will be do to large part of the play of Josh Freeman. The bucs season really rides on Freeman. If he falls then they fall.
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I can help ya out with TB.
Needs:
CB - The bucs did not address this need this year, but the corners in 2013 draft are much better than this years so maybe a blessing in disguise. Tyrann Mathieu is who I am hoping for.
RT - Jeremy Trueblood is below average. The rest of the line is set except for RT. Not as big as CB or OLB, but a need that should be looked at.
OLB - Foster and David have two of the three spots filled. Which leaves on more. Mante Te'o would be ideal for the final spot.
TE - Lot of bucs fans says this is a need. I really like Luke Stocker and Winslow is a turd. If Stocker does not work out then this will be a need.
QB - If Tampa finishes in the top 5 or top 10 then it will be do to large part of the play of Josh Freeman. The bucs season really rides on Freeman. If he falls then they fall.
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You have Sheridan down there as DC, right? You'd be looking for man corners, down there if that is the case then? Also, do you know your offense's preferred type of blocker and/or LB?
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Thanks, do you know what type of blocking scheme the Jags would run that could narrow down the Interior OL candidates down some?
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They like big, physical guys. So any prospect who's strictly a ZBS guy probably wouldn't be considered.
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Steelers:
Safety...free and strong
I think cortez allen is the future at FS, but i also thought keenan lewis was, and crezdon butler, and donovan warren and clark keeps sticking around. Mundy isnt starting material
Troy wont last much longer with the way he plays and how banged up he always seems to be.
MLB
We have spence and stevenson slyvester to battle it out this year with below average starter larry foote, need someone next to timmons to step up
WR
If wallace leaves this becomes a huge need. I LOVE brown, hes a LEGIT #2 but hes no #1. I like sanders and cotchery for depth, but no number 1 could pose a problem in the near future...i dont think wallace has much time as a steeler left.
CB
They like CBs that are big and physical, can press, and play zone. I think the #2 CB and NB slots are filled, but they will need to start looking to replace ike.
OG
just one more spot to fill and the steelers oline is among the top 5 again, for the first time in a long time
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Here are some positions I would like New England to address in 2013:
1. Wide receiver
Brandon Lloyd is signed long-term, but Wes Welker is only on the franchise tag and the Patriots' third and fourth options (Deion Branch and Jabar Gaffney) are both over 30. One or two wide receivers would be nice.
2. Defensive end
Chandler Jones will start on the right side, but Jonathan Fanene may be best suited as a rotational player. Jermaine Cunningham will have to show significant improvement to avoid being labeled as a bust.
3. Defensive tackle
Kyle Love has impressed since joining the team as an undrafted free agent but Ron Brace has been disappointing and Myron Pryor can't stay healthy. Vince Wilfork is a stud but next to him and upgrade could be made.
4. Offensive line
Nate Solder and Logan Mankins are fixtures on the left side and Dan Connolly signed a handsome three-year deal to play center but Brian Waters is probably entering his final season and Sebastian Vollmer is going to be a free agent. Marcus Cannon could replace one but not both of those players.
5. Defensive back
Steve Gregory signed a three-year deal to start at free safety and Tavon Wilson was a second-round pick, but it's hard to tell how those two players will fit in. The Patriots could also use depth at cornerback, or possibly a starter if McCourty disappoints in 2012 or Ras-I Dowling gets hurt again.
I would say wide receiver and defensive end are the two big needs, while the offensive line mostly depends on whether or not Sebastian Vollmer is back and the safety position could end up being significantly improved over last year. Defensive tackle isn't a huge need but a starter could be added.
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Steelers:
Safety...free and strong
I think cortez allen is the future at FS, but i also thought keenan lewis was, and crezdon butler, and donovan warren and clark keeps sticking around. Mundy isnt starting material
Troy wont last much longer with the way he plays and how banged up he always seems to be.
MLB
We have spence and stevenson slyvester to battle it out this year with below average starter larry foote, need someone next to timmons to step up
WR
If wallace leaves this becomes a huge need. I LOVE brown, hes a LEGIT #2 but hes no #1. I like sanders and cotchery for depth, but no number 1 could pose a problem in the near future...i dont think wallace has much time as a steeler left.
CB
They like CBs that are big and physical, can press, and play zone. I think the #2 CB and NB slots are filled, but they will need to start looking to replace ike.
OG
just one more spot to fill and the steelers oline is among the top 5 again, for the first time in a long time
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I can see those as being needs. I personally think you will find your starter out of Sylvester or Spence, both are guys I like. What type of WR would you expect the Steelers to be looking for if Wallace and/or Brown wouldn't be back the following season?
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Here are some positions I would like New England to address in 2013:
1. Wide receiver
Brandon Lloyd is signed long-term, but Wes Welker is only on the franchise tag and the Patriots' third and fourth options (Deion Branch and Jabar Gaffney) are both over 30. One or two wide receivers would be nice.
2. Defensive end
Chandler Jones will start on the right side, but Jonathan Fanene may be best suited as a rotational player. Jermaine Cunningham will have to show significant improvement to avoid being labeled as a bust.
3. Defensive tackle
Kyle Love has impressed since joining the team as an undrafted free agent but Ron Brace has been disappointing and Myron Pryor can't stay healthy. Vince Wilfork is a stud but next to him and upgrade could be made.
4. Offensive line
Nate Solder and Logan Mankins are fixtures on the left side and Dan Connolly signed a handsome three-year deal to play center but Brian Waters is probably entering his final season and Sebastian Vollmer is going to be a free agent. Marcus Cannon could replace one but not both of those players.
5. Defensive back
Steve Gregory signed a three-year deal to start at free safety and Tavon Wilson was a second-round pick, but it's hard to tell how those two players will fit in. The Patriots could also use depth at cornerback, or possibly a starter if McCourty disappoints in 2012 or Ras-I Dowling gets hurt again.
I would say wide receiver and defensive end are the two big needs, while the offensive line mostly depends on whether or not Sebastian Vollmer is back and the safety position could end up being significantly improved over last year. Defensive tackle isn't a huge need but a starter could be added.
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I can definitely see WR as a bigger need for you guys, I figure I'll leave it open as to what type because once Welker slows down, you could really use all types of WRs. I'd assume in your hybrid defense Chandler Jones will be a 4-3 RE first and then move around in the 3-4 alignments, would you say a DE with more of an anchor would be more of a need? Also, with Wilfork, I can safely assume you would be looking for more of a quick twitch, one gapping UT type of DT if that were the case. Also, I'm going to put in a note about SEC players, Bellicheck has a thing for SEC athletes.
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I can see those as being needs. I personally think you will find your starter out of Sylvester or Spence, both are guys I like. What type of WR would you expect the Steelers to be looking for if Wallace and/or Brown wouldn't be back the following season?
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i cant find a scenerio where brown wont be back, wallace i definitely can though.
I love cotchery, imo hes better than ward. He just doesnt smile all the time or throw a mean blindside block. And sanders does legit have great ability, reminds me of torrey holt a lot in the way he plays and how smooth he is but he is ALWAYS banged up
and as far as the type, ben always cries for tall WRs. Haley seems to work magic with bigger WRs too....fitz, bolden, bowe, what could have been baldwin but hey he drafted him for a reason
Brown is really a beast as a #2, i think sanders has the ability to play on the outside, but right now hes no more than an injury prone cedric wilson. i wouldnt want to have to try either one of them as the main threat though
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As of now still have wait and see how the rookies look.
1. RB- BJGE and Bernard Scott are nothing special.
2. SOLB or WOLB- Thomas Howard and Manny Lawson are both FA next year. Should keep atleast 1 if not both.
3. MLB- This all depends on Maualuga play this year.
4. CB- Adam Jones, Terrence Newman, and Nate Clements all FAs next year.
5. DE- Still Could use a passrusher opposite Dunlap. Michael Johnson is also a FA next year.
6. SS- This depends on if Taylor Mays is a worth starting or not after this year.
7. QB- Gradkowski is a FA next year.
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As of now still have wait and see how the rookies look.
1. RB- BJGE and Bernard Scott are nothing special.
2. SOLB or WOLB- Thomas Howard and Manny Lawson are both FA next year. Should keep atleast 1 if not both.
3. MLB- This all depends on Maualuga play this year.
4. CB- Adam Jones, Terrence Newman, and Nate Clements all FAs next year.
5. DE- Still Could use a passrusher opposite Dunlap. Michael Johnson is also a FA next year.
6. SS- This depends on if Taylor Mays is a worth starting or not after this year.
7. QB- Gradkowski is a FA next year.
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If you could trim it down to what you think your top needs would be, would it be something like...
RB, LB(s), CB, and DE?
I kinda want to try to keep the lists to 5 positions or less for each team as I could see it getting real cluttered when the teams start filling out.
If not, how would you put it? I'm obviously going to put more weight on your view than mine. Any input on the type of players, at each position, you'd be looking into? Seems like the Bengals have looked for H/W/S type pass rushers based off of their recent draft history, and downhill, instinctual LBs, but that's all I really have right now...
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Safety - Pool is on a 1-year deal and Sensabaugh has the instincts of a tree stump. 4th rounder Matt Johnson is umm, meh.
Outside Linebacker - Currently Anthony Spencer and Victor Butler are scheduled to be Unrestricted Free Agents after this season. 4th rounder Wilber is also meh. These are official scout definitions by the way.
Center - The Cowboys currently have a blind spot when it comes to the Center position. Stephen Jones just said they feel good about Phil Costa. Stephen is his father's son.
Runningback - Love DeMarco Murray but he hasn't had a full healthy year in a while. Felix Jones will be a free agent.
Wide Receiver - The Cowboys are throwing a bunch of "stuff" at the wall to see what sticks. Kevin Ogletree blew his undeserved chance last year. Radway and Holmes are no-names the staff is high on. Jerry thinks every undrafted player we find is the next Miles Austin.
Defensive Line - Tyrone Crawford will help but we need more size and more playmakers on the defensive line.
Quarterback - If Costa gets Romo killed.
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For Denver.
1. DEFENSIVE TACKLE
We drafted Derek Wolfe to shoot the gap, still need a big space eater next to him.
2. OFFENSIVE TACKLE
Orlando Franklin is a sieve and Ryan Clady will be a free agent.
3. RUNNING BACK
We have Ronnie Hillman but we still need a young workhorse
WR, DE, MLB, S
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I can definitely see WR as a bigger need for you guys, I figure I'll leave it open as to what type because once Welker slows down, you could really use all types of WRs. I'd assume in your hybrid defense Chandler Jones will be a 4-3 RE first and then move around in the 3-4 alignments, would you say a DE with more of an anchor would be more of a need? Also, with Wilfork, I can safely assume you would be looking for more of a quick twitch, one gapping UT type of DT if that were the case. Also, I'm going to put in a note about SEC players, Bellicheck has a thing for SEC athletes.
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Right now the Patriots have a lot of slot receivers with Anthony Gonzalez, Julian Edelman, and seventh-round pick Jeremy Ebert on roster so I would say replacing Deion Branch and Jabar Gaffney are the priorities right now. The Patriots look for quick, smart receivers who run crisp routes, someone like Ryan Broyles would have been a good pick this year. Chandler Jones will play right end in the 4-3 and maybe even right end in the 3-4; I think the Patriots may use him as a designated pass rusher like the 49ers did with Aldon Smith last year. The Patriots don't really use one-gap defensive tackles except in some obvious passing situations (which is what Myron Pryor and Marcus Forston are on the roster for), so I would say more of a nose tackle who can still rush a little bit would be a possibility; Brandon Thompson was someone I felt was a fit in this draft class.
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1. CB - we need someone to start across from Powers and a nickel back would be good too.
2. ILB/OLB - still need some talented guys to play inside now that we have switched to 3-4. Also I'm not sure how Freeney, Hughes, and Mathis will fair at outside; it will be very interesting to see how they do.
3. OG/OT - Castonzo (LT) and Ijialana (RT/RG) hopefully will be solid. Hopefully Satele (C) is decent. And if Reitz (LG) and Justice (RT/RG) struggle they will need to be replaced.
4. DE 5-Tech - We don't know how Moala and Nevis will do at the 5-Tech. Cory Redding should provide some veteran help, but I can see this becoming a huge need.
5. SS - Zbikowski will do for now, but I don't think he is the future at S.
6. RB - We have a lot of mediocre RB's that need to step into a starting role. Depending on who emerges we probably will need a better RB.
7. WR - Reggie Wayne is getting old and Donnie Avery is a huge question mark. Collie is good in the slot, but has injury concerns. I'm interested to see how T.Y. Hilton and Brazill turn out.
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1.) C
We lost Scott Wells in free agency and replaced him with Jeff Saturday, but 2012 might be his last year. We need someone to replace him when he finally retires and hopefully we can pick up that guy next year.
2.) S
Nick Collins has sadly gone, so Woodson will probably be moved to safety. He is obviously nearing the end of his career as well, so looking for someone to eventually replace him could be high on next years priority list.
Depth, Depth, Depth.
3.) RB
4.) ILB
5.) OG
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Ya this is way too early for this
If Levi Brown keeps sucking - LT
If Kolb or Skelton suck enough for a top 5 pick - QB
If Calais Campbell leaves as a FA - DE
but truly we will take BPA so throw the needs out the window
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Without seeing what transpires in 2012, they have virtually no "needs."
Safety - If Dashon Goldson doesn't sign an extension.
Cornerback - Carlos Rodgers is short-term and 30+
Tight End - If Delanie Walker doesn't re-sign.
Front-3 - If team doesn't find out what they have in Ricky Jean Francois, Will Tukuafu, Demarcus Dobbs, and Ian Williams.
Wide Receiver - What does the future hold for Randy Moss, Michael Crabtree, and Mario Manningham?
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Giants:
Order of Need(Round likely to be addressed in). Position
1(2). OT- Needed one for years, RT or LT. Beatty sucks, Dheil is a backup now and only one of McCants, Mosely and Brewer will develop into a starter at best.
2(1). DE- Didn't get one this year, lost Tolly, will lose Osi to FA next year, Tuck is getting older and him and Kiwi get injured a lot. O and in case you didn't notice the Giants love DEs.
3(5). C- Baas sucks and Boothe isn't a true C, sadly we have a lot of money invested in Baas and might be stuck with him.
4(4). ILB- Still don't have a true MIKE backer. Set on the outside at LB though.
5(3). S- Phillips will be an FA and there are no guarantees that we re-sign him and Perry loves his 3 safety sets so depth at S wouldn't hurt.
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