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Old 05-14-2012, 03:00 PM    (permalink
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Jump in and do what, not vote? Out himself and the protector?
Is it that hard to understand?

A watcher isnt a role to find out who the killer is. A watcher helps with piecing together information once people roleclaim and say what they did. He can try to understand who is a protector and what not.

If the protector is about to get lynched, say just like caddy is right now, he could come in and defend him. Yes that guy would die at night, but that would sure as hell be better than getting killed at day. On the other side you have the dilemma for mafia: kill the watcher? Kill the protector? The watcher will most likely watch the protector. The protector will protect the watcher. Revealing the protector doesnt necessarily is bad, especially if he is about to be lynched.

But im done arguing. Go ahead and kill caddy. But if Caddy isnt part of mafia id strongly urge to look at the people that jumped on the train and havent done much since.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:07 PM    (permalink
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You have been done arguing for a while know so you keep saying. I understand where you are coming from but it is just way too clean. **** always happens in these games. You want us to lynch broth and roll with what Caddy says? I think what Caddy did is ******** but whatever, I don't want to chance it either.

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Old 05-14-2012, 03:09 PM    (permalink
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i dont think it is necessarily broth. i just think caddy without getting to defend himself is not a lynch we should do. If caddy actually gives us some bullocks tomorrow, we can just lynch him then with a much better conscience.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:11 PM    (permalink
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The problem right now is Caddy probably cannot talk today. So we have to roll with a random lynch anyhow.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:13 PM    (permalink
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the random lynch has a lot lower chance of hitting a cop though...
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:14 PM    (permalink
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So we are in for a long day then. Unless someone comes out with info which may be exactly what he wants.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:14 PM    (permalink
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The problem right now is Caddy probably cannot talk today. So we have to roll with a random lynch anyhow.
Huh? Since when have you been a believer that just because there is no investigator outing someone, whoever we lynch is random? This is so not you.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:16 PM    (permalink
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Huh? Since when have you been a believer that just because there is no investigator outing someone, whoever we lynch is random? This is so not you.
Its still pretty much random. It might not be the appropriate word for it but we aren't going off info.

I have expressed my two main suspicions in Caddy and Vidae. Caddy for obvious reasons and Vidae for what I mentioned earlier.

Right now I think we get more information in killing Caddy but thats just me.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:16 PM    (permalink
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Huh? Since when have you been a believer that just because there is no investigator outing someone, whoever we lynch is random? This is so not you.
what are your thoughts so far on caddy?
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Its still pretty much random. It might not be the appropriate word for it but we aren't going off info.

I have expressed my two main suspicions in Caddy and Vidae. Caddy for obvious reasons and Vidae for what I mentioned earlier.

Right now I think we get more information in killing Caddy but thats just me.
Why would we get any info killing caddy? He's said nothing Day 2. Didn't say all that much day 1. All we'll have is a bunch of people thinking we should wait before we lynch him and a bunch of people thinking we should lynch him now. Big time info.
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Why would we get any info killing caddy? He's said nothing Day 2. Didn't say all that much day 1. All we'll have is a bunch of people thinking we should wait before we lynch him and a bunch of people thinking we should lynch him now. Big time info.
my words exactly
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To be fair no one has really done anything to warrant a lynching at this point imo. We have one side defending Caddy and another advocating his lynching but without knowing Caddy's alignment it's hard to draw any conclusions from these discussions. My vote stays with Caddy until someone can provide me with a better case for someone else. I'm not writing broth off but that one post is not enough to be lynched over imo.
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Why would we get any info killing caddy? He's said nothing Day 2. Didn't say all that much day 1. All we'll have is a bunch of people thinking we should wait before we lynch him and a bunch of people thinking we should lynch him now. Big time info.
It depends on what happens but between his role, people that defended him and the voting I feel we get more info than say lynching SuperPacker as someone suggested earlier.
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my words exactly
What more info do we get for lynching SuperPacker or Broth or you? We don't right now we have two polarized sides.

People on opposite sides of this are going to give us more info than a random lynch train.
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what are your thoughts so far on caddy?
I don't believe he's a cop. I don't believe he's mafia. Because for both of those roles it doesn't make any sense to do what he did. What I'm thinking is maybe he needed to be targetted at night to fulfill his role, and that is the best way he came up with. Maybe some kinda mechanic like in vidae's beta game. It's the "triggered" part of Shane's role that gave me this idea. And it's the only thing that makes sense for me.
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What more info do we get for lynching SuperPacker or Broth or you? We don't right now we have two polarized sides.

People on opposite sides of this are going to give us more info than a random lynch train.
we dont. but we also dont have as high of a chance to kill a cop
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I don't believe he's a cop. I don't believe he's mafia. Because for both of those roles it doesn't make any sense to do what he did. What I'm thinking is maybe he needed to be targetted at night to fulfill his role, and that is the best way he came up with. Maybe some kinda mechanic like in vidae's beta game. It's the "triggered" part of Shane's role that gave me this idea. And it's the only thing that makes sense for me.
I said it before and I'll say it again, usually people don't even know the trigger exists till it happens. It's generally not included in the role description but someone who's coordinated these before could maybe shed some mor elight on this.
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Well, looks like we hit a wall. I'm with SP (sadly), Uk has no excuse right now to have not said a word. It's like 8:30 PM in the UK.

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Well, looks like we hit a wall. I'm with SP (sadly), Uk has no excuse right now to have not said a word. It's like 8:30 PM in the UK.

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9:30...*****!

Ok, i caught up and here's what im thinking.

- I'm starting to lean towards not lynching Caddy and seeing what he says tomorrow.
- IBC has to be evil. Basically exactly what Job has said, he's contradicting himself, not playing how he normally plays and is suspiciously leaning towards lynching Caddy.
-UK is lying low, because he either has an important role or he is mafia. He probably thinks no one will question him not being here, because he was away so much in the last game.

I think IBC is more evil. But...

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I am extremely suspicious of BeerBaron. I think there is a very good chance he could be evil. Anyone else feel that way?
I don't think BB is evil. I believe him when he says he just wants to not be boring.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:42 PM    (permalink
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I don't think BB is evil. I believe him when he says he just wants to not be boring.
I don't think I said anything like that unless it's another extreme oversimplification of something else I said.
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I am extremely suspicious of BeerBaron. I think there is a very good chance he could be evil. Anyone else feel that way?
BB hasn't struck me as bad. I'm way more suspicious of Caddy, but I want to see who he has investigated before he is lynched. If he comes back with "I was blocked" there is no doubt I'm lynching him, he knew the risks of coming out Day One as a cop.
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I don't think I said anything like that unless it's another extreme oversimplification of something else I said.
Yep, its just me being simple.
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