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Old 08-04-2012, 08:18 PM    (permalink
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Saw this last night... AWESOME movie.

How did he get out of the Bat at the end? How come the girl and her mom were in the pit in the first place? Why did the guys in the pit attack Bane when the girl was escaping? ....Yet cheered for Wayne when he was trying to escape? Why is destroying Gotham important?
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Saw this last night... AWESOME movie.

How did he get out of the Bat at the end? How come the girl and her mom were in the pit in the first place? Why did the guys in the pit attack Bane when the girl was escaping? ....Yet cheered for Wayne when he was trying to escape? Why is destroying Gotham important?
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-They were more militarized back then I assume, and changed over time as they saw a little girl escape the pit and finally gained hope
-Watch Batman Begins
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-They were more militarized back then I assume, and changed over time as they saw a little girl escape the pit and finally gained hope
-Watch Batman Begins
Bane was protecting her from the other inmates...I think you can imagine why a young girl would need protection in a prison comprised of almost entirely men. I assumed they attacked him for keeping them from her.
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Bane was protecting her from the other inmates...I think you can imagine why a young girl would need protection in a prison comprised of almost entirely men. I assumed they attacked him for keeping them from her.
Especially after what they did to her mother
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For those paying attention, Deadshot was actually featured in The Dark Knight Rises. David S Goyer is a big fan of the character, and Bane's #2 henchman features many Deadshot-esque sensibilities.
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I saw it again tonight and for some reason I focussed on one of the extras that was a cop during the fight scene where the cops and prisoners go running at each other. This person didn't touch anyone and just weaved through the whole crowed and made it to the end doing just that.
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Gotta love the Brits.

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Just as a topic of discussion... If there was a fourth film in this franchise, what villain would you have liked to see Nolan's rendition of?
In Begins, Bruce mentioned the people in his birthday party were "two-faced" a reference to Two-Face, and at the end the Joker card was shown.

In TDK Bruce asked Lucius if his new suit could protect him from dogs, he said "it should help with cats", foreshadowing Catwoman (not really a villain though). No foreshadowing with Bane.

In TDKR they said something about "large crocodiles" in the sewers so i think if there was a 4th, it would have been Killer Croc. I would personally prefer to see The Riddler. Also would have liked Mr. Freeze (Batman:The Animated Series shows he can be done tastefully) and Black Mask.
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Finally got around to seeing it an it did not disappoint one bit. I thought it was great how they made JGL Robin, without really making him Robin. He didn't have that stupid costume or "boy teen wonder" attitude about him, and saving the name till the end got rid of any expectations you would have from knowing he was Robin from the start. Bane was flat out incredible, he was a total badass, and he looked massive. He didn't even look that cut, just massive, dude looked like a brick. I liked how they had Catwoman kill him, I can't see how Batman could have realistically overpowered Bane enough to get him locked up and he would never kill so it was really the only plausible way to get rid of him. I also thought the ending was perfect, it was exactly what you would expect, yet exactly what you would want. I honestly could not rank the 3 movies, each one was incredible in different ways and it was quite possibly the best trilogy ever, rivaling the likes of the first 3 Star Wars, LotR, Toy Story and of course the Fockers trilogy is up there too.
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I honestly could not rank the 3 movies, each one was incredible in different ways and it was quite possibly the best trilogy ever, rivaling the likes of the first 3 Star Wars, LotR, Toy Story and of course the Fockers trilogy is up there too.
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For those paying attention, Deadshot was actually featured in The Dark Knight Rises. David S Goyer is a big fan of the character, and Bane's #2 henchman features many Deadshot-esque sensibilities.
Are you talking about this guy because he isn't dead shot.

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I've seen it twice. Which is a lot for a guy with two little kids.
Movie time doesn't come around often so twice is a victory in itself.
With that said... I WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN!!!!
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In Begins, Bruce mentioned the people in his birthday party were "two-faced" a reference to Two-Face, and at the end the Joker card was shown.

In TDK Bruce asked Lucius if his new suit could protect him from dogs, he said "it should help with cats", foreshadowing Catwoman (not really a villain though). No foreshadowing with Bane.

In TDKR they said something about "large crocodiles" in the sewers so i think if there was a 4th, it would have been Killer Croc. I would personally prefer to see The Riddler. Also would have liked Mr. Freeze (Batman:The Animated Series shows he can be done tastefully) and Black Mask.
I think those were all jokes and not meant to be taken seriously. You have to remember that Nolan didn't plan on making both sequels. I doubt he was deliberately put in subtle messages in each prior film to hint that he's doing the next one.
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Bane's character has grown on me. He's not the Joker but he has some great lines in that movie.

I just don't like that they humanized him by showing him cry and his backstory being somewhat admirable.

But he was a badass.
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Too bad the film made him out to be pretty much like Ubu in the role of "henchman that follows Ra's al Ghul".
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Leaving right now to finally go see this movie.....

I've been proud of my ability to avoid this thread so far.
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#5: Oswald Cobblepot (Penguin)

Penguin is a short, rotund villain known for his love of birds and his specialized high-tech umbrellas. Cobblepot is typically portrayed as a ‘gentleman of crime’ – a high-profile aristocrat and mobster.

Portrayed by Burgess Meredith in the ’60s Batman television series, Penguin is known for his signature top hat and cigarette holder. For Burton’s 1992 film, Batman Returns, Danny DeVito played a more grotesque, deformed version of Cobblepot that made him a sideshow freak – a living, breathing fish boy with flipper hands.

It would have been great to see Cobblepot as a mob boss at some point in The Dark Knight Trilogy. I always loved the idea of Philip Seymour Hoffman playing Penguin as Gotham’s kingpin of crime, a monocle-wearing aristocrat that deals in high society and heavy artillery. Of course while Penguin isn’t a physical threat to Batman, he’s one of the Dark Knight’s more resourceful, intelligent villains – which would make him perfect for a team-up with a more brutish, bone-breaking villain…

#4: Waylon Jones (Killer Croc)

Waylon Jones was born with a condition diagnosed as epidermolytic hyperkeratosis, a disfiguring skin disorder. After further study, it is determined that Jones has a form of regressive atavism, meaning that he has inherited the traits of reptiles. As a result, Crock’s skin is hardened and scaly, impenetrable to bullets and blades.

Killer Croc has been interpreted in ways that make him truly monstrous – similar to Spider-man’s Lizard, but Brian Azzarello and Lee Mermejo’s Joker graphic novel shows Croc as an African-American crime boss with a skin disease that occasionally enjoys feeding on human flesh.

In The Dark Knight Rises, there’s a throwaway line by John Blake (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) about a giant alligator in the sewers of Gotham – a respective nod to Killer Croc, one of Batman’s more monstrous foes. It would have been cool to see someone like Idris Elba as this deformed reptile man who makes the sewers of Gotham his kingdom – a massive, impossibly strong bad guy that would push Batman to his limits.

#3: Edward Nash (Riddler)

Known under the aliases of E. Nigma (Nygma), Edward (Eddie) Nashton, and Eddie Nash, Riddler is obsessed with riddles, puzzles, and word games. He delights in flaunting his genius by sending both Batman and Gotham’s finest complex clues about his criminal exploits.

What separates Riddler from other members of Batman’s rogues gallery is the fact that he isn’t really a psychopathic murder, but rather a narcissist with an enormous ego. He orchestrates elaborate puzzles and mysteries to flaunt his intellectual superiority over Batman and Commissioner Gordon.

Jim Carrey played the inquisitive instigator in Batman Forever, as an employee of Wayne Enterprises who invents a device that manipulates the minds of the wearer. Nygma uses the device to increase his own intelligence, making him a diabolical genius who aims to ruin Batman’s legacy (and the power of Batman’s symbolism) by revealing the man behind the mask.

Personally, I would love to see someone like Michael Fassbender or Ryan Gosling bring a murderous, deadly edge to Riddler. Imagine Riddler as a Fincher-esque serial killer from Se7en or Zodiac, murdering Gothamites and leaving elaborate ciphers and clues for Batman to solve. We would get to see the detective side to Batman as he uses advanced gadgetry (courtesy of Morgan Freeman‘s Lucius Fox) to examine forensic evidence and the clues Riddler has purposely left at crime scenes.

#2: Dr. Victor Fries (Mr. Freeze)

Fries is a brilliant scientist confined to a cryogenic suit that keeps him alive. In the most common variation of his origin story, Fries was a genius in the field of cryogenics who suffered an industrial accident while attempting to cure his terminally-ill wife, Nora.

After Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s performance in Batman and Robin, it’s easy to dismiss Mr. Freeze as a potential villain in Nolan’s Batman universe – but consider for a moment if the character was played straight.

I could easily see Hugh Jackman (think The Fountain) sporting a bald head, using icy gadgets to secure capital in finding a cure for his cryogenically frozen wife. One thing’s for sure, Nolan’s Freeze wouldn’t be spouting off one-liners like, “You’re not sending me to the cooler!” or “Allow me to break the ice!”

#1: Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn)

Created by Paul Dini and Bruce Timm, Harley Quinn first appeared in Batman: The Animated Series as female sidekick for the Joker. Harleen Quinzel was an Arkham Asylum psychiatrist who became fascinated with the Joker’s psychiatric profile (and his bizarre crimes) and soon fell hopelessly in love with him. After helping Joker escape the asylum, Harleen is driven mad and quits her psychiatrist job only to don a sexy, skintight jester costume and become Harley Quinn.

If Heath Ledger were still alive, it’s hard to say what The Dark Knight Rises could have entailed. When we last saw the Joker at the end of The Dark Knight, Batman strung him up for Gotham’s SWAT unit to apprehend – no doubt throwing him in a padded cell for the rest of his life. I could imagine Dr. Quinzel (perhaps played by Carey Mulligan or Michelle Williams) as a young psychiatrist at Arkham (a former intern of Dr. Jonathan Crane) who frees the Joker from his cell and joins him as an agent of chaos.

Maybe there’s an epic tag-team match waiting to happen with Batman and Catwoman taking on Harley Quinn and the Joker – but alas, the Joker died with Heath Ledger, and it’s better that his character is not mentioned during The Dark Knight Rises. With eight years in between the two films, I like to imagine the numerous scenarios that could have involved Ledger’s character. Could he have escaped Blackgate Penitentiary when Bane led the riotous prison break? Or is he still locked up in the secure wing of Arkham, sitting in a dark corner of his padded room rocking back and forth – laughing – repeating, “It’s all part of the plan” ad infinitum.
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Riddler for sure. Not sure what Penguin could have brought to the table that Falcone or Maroni could have besides being a little more quirky. Killer Croc only would have worked as a secondary villain. And like the article points out, Harley Quinn isn't possible with Heath's passing.

Hush and the Black Mask would have been interesting as well. Maybe Hugo Strange if they wanted to go the mad scientist route.
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Black Mask would have been better than Penguin. I like Penguin, but he's been far too overused and he's just not that interesting of a villain.
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I always thought Michael Emerson would've been an excellent Riddler in the Nolan universe.
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I always thought Michael Emerson would've been an excellent Riddler in the Nolan universe.
Fassbender would be so much better as the Riddler
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