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Old 06-25-2012, 01:20 PM    (permalink
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I can't see the night actions (google docs is blocked at work for some reason). Why did my guild suck so badly at the night kill?
Shane was a shield and stopped it from hitting him and other thieves... Also at one point Ngata tried to poison the BM which obviously failed.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:22 PM    (permalink
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Sort of . . . the Thieves Guild was doing as much as possible to steer people away from any useful abilities. Todd, JR, Rufus were all guys I called as potential 'neutrals' when I made my play for BM. I wanted them to be able to vote for me thinking I was an idiot while also gaining some security that I won't attack them. And, hopefully, keeping them UTR for a bit in the process.
You did a good job when you took control as BM but sbh was following along with whatever you did a little too closely.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:22 PM    (permalink
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it was ngata... elvis thought he was the killer from about the 6th day, too. didn't believe him until we finally thieved him and found out about his poison dagger
Well Ngata is a jerk then. A big dickfaced jerk, as I stated earlier.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:23 PM    (permalink
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Well Ngata is a jerk then. A big dickfaced jerk, as I stated earlier.
A pretty inactive one, too. Though I guess maybe the thieves were stealing his ability? It just seemed like there should've been more night kills.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:23 PM    (permalink
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I thought I'd have a lot of things to say, but this game went on so long I got burnt out and forget it all now...damn.

Oh, the Daedra stuff.

SBH won the Spear of Bitter Mercy from Sheogorath. (Which we forgot about in his one battle...still would have gotten his ass beat though.)

Bulldogs got Goldbrand from Boethiah, but needed to unseat the Battlemaster (Caddy) at the time to get it's full power. If he did defeat Caddy and then get named BM himself, he would have also gotten the Ebony Mail.

But since Caddy died, Clavicus Vile showed up and offered him the Masque in trade for Goldbrand, which Bulldogs accepted.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:24 PM    (permalink
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Congrats kill/mages! I didn't think we stood a chance after me and D died so early.

Also, anyone thinking there would be other townies needs to be facepalming themselves. Once it was established there were four guilds, at six members each, simply doing the math would eliminate that possibility.
I felt the same as JR (below) on this. I didn't think BB/IBC would just go 4x6. I thought one or two would be off. I thought one guild would have 5 and Ngata's poisoning was SK (neutral) right up until he died.

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I would also like to know who bought my "I'm neutral and must kill the Dark Brotherhood" speech, and for how long.
For about the rest of that day phase. Then you summoned a weapon. Pretty clear give away.
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I know you were going to mention some things about inactives and people slow to use night actions. I know a few times it took me a while to get my action in but I don't think I was ever the one making us wait. If I did, my apologies.
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Did volunteering / killing the Daedra horde do anything positive, or simply weaken me (until I healed w/Rufus?)

Also, was JR's bloodsucking cumulative or just a one night deduction?
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Did volunteering / killing the Daedra horde do anything positive, or simply weaken me (until I healed w/Rufus?)

Also, was JR's bloodsucking cumulative or just a one night deduction?
Just weakened you a bit. But it did seem to clear you in the eyes of the town for a bit, so there's that.

Also, JR's bloodsucking was cumulative. He couldn't push his own fatigue beyond 100 (the max) but he could continue to drain everyone.
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I know you were going to mention some things about inactives and people slow to use night actions. I know a few times it took me a while to get my action in but I don't think I was ever the one making us wait. If I did, my apologies.
Well, we really did try to make activity a bonus. Shane was a prime example, winning some fights on post count alone.

After that, Cain and I discussed ways to make activity count, but not post whoring (which is all Shane did.)

We though about tracking "quality" posts or something but everything came out too subjective.

I think if I were to do it again, we'd cap the posting. For instance, You only get the post count total of the person next most to you. So you could post ***** for 100 posts, but if the 2nd most person only had 50, you'd get 50. It'd promote activity without being flat out post whoring.
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I did hold up the game once. I apoligize for that. Also wasn't overly active but did pick it up a bit towards the end. Got a good group for sure.
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Having the most active players killed off early also sucked, but it did give some others (FE, KS obviously, JR, SBH) a chance to step up more when they normally would have been overshadowed.
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If we had day-ended the R4L v. KS fight and healed R4L while bloodsucking KS, would it have made a difference? Or, more to the point, would it have made a big difference (vs. simply weakening him a little while still needing near-perfect conditions and still having only a small chance.)
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If we had day-ended the R4L v. KS fight and healed R4L while bloodsucking KS, would it have made a difference? Or, more to the point, would it have made a big difference (vs. simply weakening him a little while still needing near-perfect conditions and still having only a small chance.)
It may have changed things up a bit. Basically, the Thieves would have held half the vote count...not quite majority, but still enough to filibuster the lynch vote. You basically would have needed to get Rufus killed, pit everyone against Killswitch, and hope that at the end, you FE would have been strong enough to beat a severely weakened KS.
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I told y'all KS would wipe the floor with me haha
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Also - the PM sent limited my steal to non-kill abilities but that's not the case in the write up posted. Should I have been able to poison people?
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It may have changed things up a bit. Basically, the Thieves would have held half the vote count...not quite majority, but still enough to filibuster the lynch vote. You basically would have needed to get Rufus killed, pit everyone against Killswitch, and hope that at the end, you FE would have been strong enough to beat a severely weakened KS.
Ok, thanks. That's what I was thinking. It basically would have taken KS in the arena every time and that would have been tough b/c R4L was the every day target for inactivity & Thieves Guild affiliation (or at the feet of KS the next day, leaving 2 Mages and no real reason to attack Rufus first.
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Yeah, that was a slight mix up on our part. There were originally more kill abilities (Kodlak could go werewolf at night, Babette could poison every night....I think the mages might have had something...) but we wrote up example scenarios and found that too unbalancing.

So we nixed most of them and only had the one DB kill every other night which you couldn't steal.
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Having the most active players killed off early also sucked, but it did give some others (FE, KS obviously, JR, SBH) a chance to step up more when they normally would have been overshadowed.
I kind of like being overshadowed. I'm very active in mafia games I play (although not as much in this game due to lack of theme knowledge and some family obligations) but due to not being among the most well known members here, I don't get targeted early.
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Should have just outed me when you guys had the chance, you got greedy with using my healing powers.
Haha, yeah, the Thieves helped doom themselves by keeping you around like they did.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:57 PM    (permalink
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Thieves were so close! :D
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Thieves were so close! :D
Mages > Thieves! *poke with stick*
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Indeed. I probably should have looked into the likely candidate for Mage Guild Leader. Was thinking that KS v. Rufus + another battle or two would be enough for me to kill KS head to head.
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