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Old 07-16-2012, 10:05 AM    (permalink
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Sion is easy and can be easily built as a tank or anything else you want basically. He was the first guy I played.

Edit-AP is ability power AD is attack damage.
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The way people keep throwing AP/AD out there, I thought Adrian Peterson was a champion for a little while there.
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Actually, Grizz is wrong haha. AD is Attack Damage, it usually stands for any character/item that should be geared that way. AP stands for Ability Power, and that's any character/item who scales around magic.

Sion is a monster, but he isn't a tank. Rush zeal, then Bloodthirster, then double back for Phantom dancer and madreds. He'll be an unkillable train once you get his E farmed (it permanently adds HP for each minion kill)
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Actually, Grizz is wrong haha. AD is Attack Damage, it usually stands for any character/item that should be geared that way. AP stands for Ability Power, and that's any character/item who scales around magic.

Sion is a monster, but he isn't a tank. Rush zeal, then Bloodthirster, then double back for Phantom dancer and madreds. He'll be an unkillable train once you get his E farmed (it permanently adds HP for each minion kill)
E also adds AD for every time you lvl it. By the time youre lvl 6, with phage tou have 170+ AD. I absolutely love AD Sion. He can also be played AP, but if he's AP, he stops being effective mid and late game. AD Sion is effective throughout all phases. Except when laning against Yorick.

We should work on a quick terminology reference guide.
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E also adds AD for every time you lvl it. By the time youre lvl 6, with phage tou have 170+ AD. I absolutely love AD Sion. He can also be played AP, but if he's AP, he stops being effective mid and late game. AD Sion is effective throughout all phases. Except when laning against Yorick.

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AD Sion is a great matchup for almost every melee character solo top, he's very hard to counter. Generally, I'd suggest Akali, Vladimir or Kennen. Maybe Jarvan, if you're feeling ballsy.
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Also, for anyone learning the game, the best thing that you can start to implement now is "last-hitting". I'm at work so I can't really get into the fine details of last hitting. But simply put, don't use your auto attack constantly on minions. Walk around the minions (out of range) and wait to hit the minions until you will actually kill them with your hit.

If you learn that early, you will be a much better player.
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Last hitting is pretty important:

-Great way to earn gold early game
-Great way to level up early game
-Great way to keep your enemy from leveling early game
-Great way to push lanes early game

It's good early game! At least in HoN and DoTA. I haven't played LoL.
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Also, for anyone learning the game, the best thing that you can start to implement now is "last-hitting". I'm at work so I can't really get into the fine details of last hitting. But simply put, don't use your auto attack constantly on minions. Walk around the minions (out of range) and wait to hit the minions until you will actually kill them with your hit.

If you learn that early, you will be a much better player.
Umm yes, this is everything haha. I thought everyone would know this. "Farming" , which is the act of last hitting minions to get gold and not waste auto-attacks, ensures that you are getting more gold then your opponent and not wasting the animation on your character's auto-attack in case you get flurried and need it available. I'd wager to say a good 50% of being a very good LoL player comes from the ability to outfarm your opponent in lane. I can't possibly overstate it's importance. Economics, and the way you spend the money you earn, can be just as important as the character you choose.

EDIT: Also, if you ONLY last hit minions and your opponent does the same, the minion wave should stay fairly even in the lane, allowing your jungle to gank appropriately (It's impossible to gank well when your lane is pushed against the enemy turret).
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Umm yes, this is everything haha. I thought everyone would know this. "Farming" , which is the act of last hitting minions to get gold and not waste auto-attacks, ensures that you are getting more gold then your opponent and not wasting the animation on your character's auto-attack in case you get flurried and need it available. I'd wager to say a good 50% of being a very good LoL player comes from the ability to outfarm your opponent in lane. I can't possibly overstate it's importance. Economics, and the way you spend the money you earn, can be just as important as the character you choose.

EDIT: Also, if you ONLY last hit minions and your opponent does the same, the minion wave should stay fairly even in the lane, allowing your jungle to gank appropriately (It's impossible to gank well when your lane is pushed against the enemy turret).
Well that is good to know because I was not doing that... at all.

As for the Ganking thing don't you want to be destroying turrets?
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Well that is good to know because I was not doing that... at all.

As for the Ganking thing don't you want to be destroying turrets?
When you kill the other team guys you gain gold and experience so you can become more powerful as well as making it easier to push towards the tower while they are respawning. Its very important to pick your spots early. Once the game progresses, the laning phase ends and everyone is basically freelancing the map both defending and attacking whenever needed.
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In general you want to get champion kills over killing turrets because it allows you the exp and gold as j0sh mentioned, but it also takes that gold/exp opportunity away from your opponent. You end up out leveling and getting better items than your opponent.

But it all comes out to last-hitting minions. In general, every 20 minion kills (creep score=CS) is worth 1 champion kill. So if you have a 20 CS lead over your opponent, its like getting a champion kill.

I've spec'd a couple of the newer guys to LOL. You all are doing very well--I'm really impressed with your grasp of abilities and spacing. Get the last hitting down and you will steam roll your competition.
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I laughed so hard at this. It was just hilarious to click to go to the next page and find this comment waiting.

So now that we have a full team, when are we going to start trying out our skills in game?

I think we should practice some normal before we jump right into ranked matches, agreed?
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I think we should practice some normal before we jump right into ranked matches, agreed?
I agree. I'm chomping at the bit for some team action.

These lvl 30s seem to be on most. Agreed?
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-Great way to earn gold early game
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-Great way to keep your enemy from leveling early game
-Great way to push lanes early game

It's good early game! At least in HoN and DoTA. I haven't played LoL.
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I agree. I'm chomping at the bit for some team action.

These lvl 30s seem to be on most. Agreed?
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I'm on pretty much 24/7 just not always on the account that I put on here.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:17 PM    (permalink
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Does a chat called SWDC sound good to everyone?

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Old 07-16-2012, 07:29 PM    (permalink
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you dont need a chat room. We can just set up a team chat whenever we need to. On the team screen, you can invite the whole team to a chat.
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you dont need a chat room. We can just set up a team chat whenever we need to. On the team screen, you can invite the whole team to a chat.
Its nice for those of us not on the team :-(
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Works for me.

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Its nice for those of us not on the team :-(
Don't worry bro... you'll get to level 30 soon enough!
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