Community Mafia Game Thread- Day Seven- Pg. 62- GREENDALE WINS! - Page 53

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

If we're using other games as evidence that the town doesn't have role cops, it should also be pointed out that the mafia role cop has ALWAYS been the godfather, save for the DDN game which wasn't even run until after this game was completed.

When I was GF in The Wire game I had a one time role cop. I have seen GF be role cop before too. It varies. This is such a repeat of when I am Jack of all Trades. I guess I will be forever forced to be an asshole to everybody and die early.

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Vidae is pro town but all his results come back evil so his role may have helped the town in this game but is designed to hurt the town. It is a fact that role cop is always a mafia role? So the LOTR game never happened? I have looked at roles in the mafia wiki and role cops are used for both sides.

I don't think I can discredit mason but I doubt it gets confirmed. I guess I could always look into you tonight and confirm that.

I said 'almost always'. Again, great comprehension skills you have there.

The reason Role Cop is a mafia role the majority of the time is because there is ZERO way for the mafia to counter act it if it held by a townie. A framer/tailor only changes alignment, something that is not a concern for a role cop. I think it is highly likely you are a role cop (or one of your mafia buddies is) and as soon as 3 more people come to their sense we will know for sure.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

Why would a good investigator, out another good investigator? Whose interest does that possibly serve OTHER than the mafia's?

Say you are in my shoes Caddy. What would you have done?

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Say you are in my shoes Caddy. What would you have done?

Would have not outed the town's 'supposed' investigator.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

I said 'almost always'. Again, great comprehension skills you have there.

The reason Role Cop is a mafia role the majority of the time is because there is ZERO way for the mafia to counter act it if it held by a townie. A framer/tailor only changes alignment, something that is not a concern for a role cop. I think it is highly likely you are a role cop (or one of your mafia buddies is) and as soon as 3 more people come to their sense we will know for sure.

It is a very powerful role. I do think there is a shield in this game but I have not been blocked yet. I have never dealt with a shield though, just saw that it was used in a few games recently. If I am shielded do I not get a result back? What happens?

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:52 PM

ATL, NJX, McGee, Grizz, Viddy, Elvis and whoever else is left in the game. At least 3 of you are good. Let's hammer this home, learn about the alignment of numerous players and move along with ridding the campus of evil.

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

It is a very powerful role. I do think there is a shield in this game but I have not been blocked yet. I have never dealt with a shield though, just saw that it was used in a few games recently. If I am shielded do I not get a result back? What happens?

What? Why do you think there is a shield? Has anyone given you reason to believe that there is one? Or do you know, because you are in the mafia?

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

Would have not outed the town's 'supposed' investigator.

Ok. Fair point. Again, was drunk, ****** up. I did need to say who I looked into though. When I went back and read my post it seemed obvious to me that by not saying who TH was he would be killed at night so I figured I would come out with it and asked one of us to be watched so the mafia steered clear. You still have not answered though. In my position with a lynch train starting on you and with a very powerful role that tends to be mafia what would you have done? Just said I am not revealing?

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Ok. Fair point. Again, was drunk, ****** up. I did need to say who I looked into though. When I went back and read my post it seemed obvious to me that by not saying who TH was he would be killed at night so I figured I would come out with it and asked one of us to be watched so the mafia steered clear. You still have not answered though. In my position with a lynch train starting on you and with a very powerful role that tends to be mafia what would you have done? Just said I am not revealing?

You could have tried telling us you investigated a cop and don't want to give it up? People MIGHT have believe you if you showed everyone you have the town's interest at heart. You didn't and you made a mistake. (Clearing Tackle and being simultaneously suspicious of him was another mistake you made).

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

What? Why do you think there is a shield? Has anyone given you reason to believe that there is one? Or do you know, because you are in the mafia?

Pure speculation. It was used in the last game and tends to be used to balance things out. I have been trying to think of roles the mafia would have to balance my role out. Shield and unblockable kills were the only two that came to mind but BD mentioned unblockable kills so maybe he was trying to throw us off.

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Pure speculation. It was used in the last game and tends to be used to balance things out. I have been trying to think of roles the mafia would have to balance my role out. Shield and unblockable kills were the only two that came to mind but BD mentioned unblockable kills so maybe he was trying to throw us off.

I think you know there is a shield. Know it for a fact. You keep suggesting there is an 'unblockable kill', another lie. There is no reason to believe anything BD says. Renji's death proved that.

CJSchneider · 07-20-2012, 01:56 PM

I'm here as well, I am also playing in the other game plus looking back over this game to see if anything stands out. I will say I have some doubts about gonzo, but give me a few minutes to go back and read some things.

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:57 PM

Bring it home papa CJ. After that only Viddy and NJX need to re-vote and we will have our answers.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

You could have tried telling us you investigated a cop and don't want to give it up? People MIGHT have believe you if you showed everyone you have the town's interest at heart. You didn't and you made a mistake. (Clearing Tackle and being simultaneously suspicious of him was another mistake you made).

You are right. I should have not mentioned his name and gone the other way. Every **** time I drunk post this happens

To be fair to me though I cleared Tackle but the GF would show up townie. Once I re-read some stuff today it seems very unlikely that he is GF but I got home and was just pissed that I was going to be the inevitable lynch so I went after the people that voted for me. Nothing more I can say really.

Grizzlegom · 07-20-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

ATL, NJX, McGee, Grizz, Viddy, Elvis and whoever else is left in the game. At least 3 of you are good. Let's hammer this home, learn about the alignment of numerous players and move along with ridding the campus of evil.

If he turns up good, does that make u evil?

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

If he turns up good, does that make u evil?

It doesn't officially, but is like a 95% indicator. But if he dies and is good, feel free to lynch me. I will put up no resistance.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

You are right. I should have not mentioned his name and gone the other way. Every **** time I drunk post this happens

To be fair to me though I cleared Tackle but the GF would show up townie. Once I re-read some stuff today it seems very unlikely that he is GF but I got home and was just pissed that I was going to be the inevitable lynch so I went after the people that voted for me. Nothing more I can say really.

And now he is kind of being nice to me? Does this sound like normal Gonzo?

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 02:02 PM

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It doesn't officially, but is like a 95% indicator. But if he dies and is good, feel free to lynch me. I will put up no resistance.

And now he is kind of being nice to me? Does this sound like normal Gonzo?

Well it is good to hear you will finally man up when what you claim turns out wrong. Interesting to note though that you claim mason which will be enough to buy you credibility and keep you around until tomorrow. Of course nobody confirms this and with me dead of course you don't care if you are lynched.

As for me being nice to you well you raise good points. I am not the one with the huge grudge here. I realize these are just games.

SuperMcGee · 07-20-2012, 02:02 PM

Tackle being the GF? What?

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

Tackle being the GF? What?

He is a townie? MUST BE THE GODFATHER.

Why have you not voted for Gonzo, McGee?

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 02:03 PM

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Tackle being the GF? What?

Should I just not share any of my thoughts? I said it was possible but after reading his posts unlikely. Out of the people I coped I trust TH the most since he was the only one to have a power role. SP and Tackle both going after me hard does raise suspicions in my eye. Of the two of them though I think SP is more likely to be evil.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 02:05 PM

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He is a townie? MUST BE THE GODFATHER.

Why have you not voted for Gonzo, McGee?

It amazes me that you are pulling this off. You are actually just bullying everyone to quick vote and not even giving TH a chance to speak. First Grizz is evil for not voting for me and now McGee right?

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

It amazes me that you are pulling this off. You are actually just bullying everyone to quick vote and not even giving TH a chance to speak. First Grizz is evil for not voting for me and now McGee right?

Stop putting words in my mouth.

vidae · 07-20-2012, 02:07 PM

Well I do think Grizz is super suspicious with the way he is laying out trying to defend you. That isn't sitting right with me.

I'm not going to wait for much longer for TH to show up. We've been waiting all day for him to post and he hasn't.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-20-2012, 02:07 PM

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Stop putting words in my mouth.

Okay. Sorry. You are heavily implying that McGee is suspicious because he hasn't voted yet. Grizz you did say was evil with me. You are bullying. Don't deny it.

Caddy · 07-20-2012, 02:09 PM

Even if TH does show up, it proves nothing. In fact, I think it is only going to be worse for Gonzo.

If TH claims investigator, that means there are two 'confirmed' pro-town investigators (Whether you like it or not, vidae is pro-town). Would there really be a 3rd pro-town cop - a ROLE COP at that? I doubt it.

And if he denies being an investigator? That also doesn't help Gonzo in any way. It is a lose-lose situation as far as I am concerned.