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Old 04-15-2013, 11:01 AM    (permalink
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I don't see the stiff hips Forenci. I went back and watched some of him on youtube to see if I saw it, and I didn't see it.

He can't be a slot guy bc he's not silky smooth, but I don't see why he can't be an outside CB. He's no stiffer than Brandon Carr or Terrell Thomas.

He's looser in the hips than Aaron Ross and we drafted him. *shrug*
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True, although I was not the biggest Ross fan when we drafted him. I wouldn't hate the pick if he was it, though.
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True, although I was not the biggest Ross fan when we drafted him. I wouldn't hate the pick if he was it, though.
I guess it depends on how you want to use him. I look at him as strictly an outside guy. He reminds me of Sherman/Carr/Thomas in terms of body movement.

Don't you think? Or am I giving him too much credit?
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I'm not sure. He's really hard for me to get a grasp on him as a prospect. Maybe that's what makes me concerned about him.
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A name I haven't mentioned but like Is Alex Okafor from Texas. Pretty underrated pass rusher. Him and Datone Jones, both of them.

The reason I never bring either of them up is bc they don't fit the profile of what we look for in pass rushers. We like tall, long guys with good size.

They're more squat, short, with short arms. They don't fit the profile. Good players though.
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I am not big on Okafor or Jones as a fit for us.

It certainly seems there is going to be a fairly active draft as far as movement goes.

It is very hard to predict who will be available when we pick. For example if Miami moves up to get Joeckel or Fisher as many expect, what happens then?

What if the Bucs trade for Revis or KC shops Albert? Which way do teams like Philly go?

I am still not certain a team doesn't make a late run to sign Cruz by friday. Take the Pats for example, they did sign the Steelers RFA WR to an offersheet and were willing to give up a 3rd to sign him.
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I don't see anyone going after Cruz now. I think people are waiting for the draft and other teams won't bother with Cruz.
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I might get in trouble for saying this, but that "other" site is sooooooo much better for draft content.

Honestly the only reason why I stay here is bc of you guys. This website as a draft website is a complete joke, and Scott is a snakeoil salesman in my eyes. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but it's my honest opinion on the matter.

I mean...come on, do I really need to elaborate? Everyone here is smart enough to form your own conclusions.

But it's refreshing when you see quality draft content after seeing what's on this website for the past 3 years.
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well, yeah. I think there's a reason a lot of my/our opinions are similar to those of atl and yfs...
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well, yeah. I think there's a reason a lot of my/our opinions are similar to those of atl and yfs...
Honestly I haven't checked that place out until today. It was kind of coincidence for me that so many of the things we saw matched up with them. Which is refreshing.

I don't think they have a forum over there, but their content is pretty damn good.

I love the ppl here, I guess that's why I'm still here. I'm comfortable here. And I love the group we have here.
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i feel the same way, i love the people here so much which is why I keep coming back. but like guys like atl and yfs on twitter and their sites give me my most info
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I mean, it is what it is. Truthfully, I've always been more interested in your guys' opinions in draft related things more than anyone else. We know our team the best, I think we have a lot of intelligent posters who are knowledgeable on the draft and various parts of the game. I think we do a pretty good job of breaking players and prospects down, as well as needs.

It's sad because this site could be AMAZING if it was given the effort and infused with some new ideas. That's all I'll say on the matter, because I respect Shane and some of the other people involved with the site but you guys are the main reason I stay around, as well as the off topic.
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Yeah I'm also here just for you guys at this point. I learn absolutely nothing from Scott. What site are you talking about BBD?

We have a great group of Giants fans and then the off topic/fantasy keeps me here. Are a lot of posters gone from here again because of a new place?
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I don't think I'm allowed to say GF. I'm sure you can guess. There was a revolution of sorts like a year ago.

I just hate when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of. And quite honestly, I think a large amount of traffic generated on here is from discussions being made on the forums, by knowledgeable posters.

And then he profits off that. Obviously he does a ton that generates his revenue outside of us, but we're still getting taken advantage of. It is what it is, but it doesn't mean I'm ok with it.
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I see where you're coming from but I don't feel like I'm being taking advantage of. There isn't as much money generated from one user coming to a site multiple times. I believe unique hits are more important. He started the site so if he gets something from it so be it.

Also it's not like if you posted the other site you'd be banned haha. I doubt anyone would even notice unless you posted in every thread or started a new topic on here. It's all lax now mod wise.
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Yeah, out of respect for the mods here though, I won't post the site name.

Honestly, it's laziness on our part. Bc we all could probably generate some kind of revenue for ourselves as writers if we put the effort into it.

If yfs and atl can do it, why the hell can't we? Think about it. They just put the commitment into it, and they deserve all the success that comes their way.

We, on the other hand, provide quality input on someone else's website, make no return on it, and provide traffic for the guy who owns the site and he collects a check.

I don't see why he would get many unique hits outside the forum, considering the content is a complete joke.

But anyway, it's a moot point. We're all too busy to venture out on our own, we're comfortable here, we enjoy each other's company, and we love talking football.

So it is what it is. But I still don't like it.
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Yeah I definitely understand that.

They did have a forum when they tried to get a lot of us here over there so I remembered the site now. Looks like they do a nice job.
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I think they got rid of the forum bc I don't see it on there. They have great content though.
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Haha, I mean, I hate ATL because he is a massive douche bag but I give him props for doing his own thing.

It saddens me how there is such a lack of content here. This site could be REALLY amazing if done correctly. I do not pretend to be an expert on the draft but the lack of innovation here is pretty sad. I understand the Podcast is new and a lot of people like that, but you're still missing out on a huge user base by not adding new content and new features. I mean, if Scott is content with mediocrity that's fine, but it's sad because he could become rich as the draft continues to become more main stream and publicized.
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I get what you guys are saying in here. I only go to the forums on this page. I have no idea whatsoever on what content there is available on the main page. I read some of the mock drafts and interviews when they are linked to on the draft board, but that's it.

And really, I'm fine with that. I come on here to talk to you guys. If Scott makes money off of me getting to talk to other knowledgeable Giants fans in here, then I have no problem with it. It's not like I'm paying him money. The advertising companies are doing that.
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I know there is a website separate from the forum, but I haven't been on the main page in years.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:23 PM    (permalink
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i just don't get what scott does that it's not scouting reports. if it's his full time job...i'd expect more than 10 scouting reports. i just don't get it
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i just don't get what scott does that it's not scouting reports. if it's his full time job...i'd expect more than 10 scouting reports. i just don't get it
Haha, I didn't want to say anything but it just seems like he doesn't care. I mean, the podcast is ONCE A WEEK. It does not take that much prep time for a podcast, so I know that's not it. I honestly do not know. I know scouting reports are time consuming but as a full-time job it should be EASY to do by draft time. He clearly just does not like doing them, which is fine, but I know a lot of people here who could do great scouting reports and would do so just to get their name out there. I'm guessing Scott just doesn't want other people taking credit though.

Again, it's just unfortunate. I wish there were more features on the site. Have user submitted mocks to compete for prizes, have a forum poster "blog" of the week where users can submit their various thoughts on the draft and have it published on the site, add a video element to the site, etc. There are a million cool things you could do to not only generate interest from loyal community members like ourselves but also to generate unique hits to the site.
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How could your full time job be running a draft website and you don't like scouting reports?

The ****?!

That's like being a doctor but not liking patients. He's a clown. There. I said it.
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he clearly does not care....his last mock draft was almost a month ago

also- i'm getting really tired of DJ Fluker to the giants in all these mock drafts
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