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Old 04-25-2013, 06:41 AM    (permalink
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Another name I forgot to mention that I like is DJ Hayden.
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Please no Teo, Werner, TE, and I'll be a happy camper.
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Another interesting fact I read on twitter:

Since 06, 85 players drafted have made the Pro Bowl.

49 on offense.
36 on defense.

Only 7 defenders were drafted after round 2.

So what does that tell you about the draft? It's more important to invest early on defenders vs offensive players. Bc offense can be manufactured through scheme bc of the rule changes. You can get production out of inferior athletes later in the draft.

On defense, bc you're reactionary to the offense, athleticism is more important, and that requires an earlier investment in the draft.

That's why I typically favor drafting defense early, and why I have no problem with how Reese invests on defense.
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Another interesting fact I read on twitter:

Since 06, 85 players drafted have made the Pro Bowl.

49 on offense.
36 on defense.

Only 7 defenders were drafted after round 2.

So what does that tell you about the draft? It's more important to invest early on defenders vs offensive players. Bc offense can be manufactured through scheme bc of the rule changes. You can get production out of inferior athletes later in the draft.

On defense, bc you're reactionary to the offense, athleticism is more important, and that requires an earlier investment in the draft.

That's why I typically favor drafting defense early, and why I have no problem with how Reese invests on defense.
Wow, that's actually a really interesting stat! Had no idea the numbers were so skewed towards first round defenders! Well, yet another argument in favor of pissing off NYG and draft defense early and often
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Im not a big stat guy, but that is an incredible statistic. It also tells me that it's easier to find pro bowl offensive talent in the draft.

WRs have such a competitive advantage with the rules that it's just easier to find productive talent later in the draft. And if you spread em out you isolate matchups and you can generate production on offense as a result, as long as you have a good qb.

And by doing that, you put less pressure on the OL bc the defense is stretched out and the ball comes out quickly. So really, as long as you have a great qb, which we do, you can get great production on offense with minimal investment.
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Happy Draft Day everyone!!! This is the least I've cared about the draft in about 15 years though but should still be a fun night.

Awesome stat BBD. OL and defense starting tonight! I'm with you on the no TE or TE'O.
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Happy draft day!

I'm gonna try to log on during the draft but I probably won't make it tonight. Enjoy the draft everyone!

NYG, I'm gonna laugh so hard when we go defense for the first 3 rounds then take a developmental OLmen in round 4! I'll be thinking of you!
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Please BBD. You won't be able to resist seeing the comments here tonight.
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This is probably our last draft together on this site guys. Think about it.

Getting sentimental!
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Well Reese better send us off on a high note then.
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Let's hope its a player we like and not some random guy or surprise. I can't wait until draft time! Its like Christmas and now hopefully its someone that can play right away.
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My favorite part of the draft is the wtf pick. Every year, there's a pick that comes out of nowhere that leaves the crowd laughing hysterically. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong.

But the wtf pick is always a good time. Unless its us...
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i'm so excited. this is the most i've ever followed a draft. so pumped.

I like Trufant as well, BBN.

Man, i'm excited. it's so awesome because we have NO idea which way we'll go
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I want to get beers before draft. Who's with me??
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Also, Scott's last mock is actually very good to us.

1st. Tank Carradine
2nd. Arthur Brown
3rd. Winters from Kent St.
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Let's hope its a player we like and not some random guy or surprise. I can't wait until draft time! Its like Christmas and now hopefully its someone that can play right away.
No rookie ever starts right away for us. Even a RB didn't get any playing time his rookie year. Coughlin doesn't play rookies.
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1st. Tank Carradine
2nd. Arthur Brown
3rd. Winters from Kent St.
i LOVE arthur brown 2nd round...he'll turn into everything we wanted from clint sintim honestly and i like the winters pick too.

what are all your thoughts on tank?
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Happy draft day!

I'm gonna try to log on during the draft but I probably won't make it tonight. Enjoy the draft everyone!

NYG, I'm gonna laugh so hard when we go defense for the first 3 rounds then take a developmental OLmen in round 4! I'll be thinking of you!



Nooooooo! stop saying such blasphemy!
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You will take your developmental 4th round OT and like it, sir.
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Sounds like Giants haven't completely closed the door on Michael Boley returning. Interesting.

this could mean we're not enthralled with any top LBs in the draft
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If NYG really doesn't like a 4th round OL, we can just wait another round and grab a project TE in round 5 to be our first offensive pick!
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No rookie ever starts right away for us. Even a RB didn't get any playing time his rookie year. Coughlin doesn't play rookies.
and that's the philosophy of the HC vs Reese. TC does that but Reese says the first 3 picks have to contribute. That brings me back to Reese doesn't have a full stamp on his tram until 2 things happen: He picks the HC and QB. That's every GM though.

The Jets GM can't stamp his team until fatty and Sanchez get shipped away and he is allowed to pick a new HC and QB.

Same with Reese. He is doing well for us but still isn't his team until he picks both. He fell into a great spot where he has a HC and QB picked for him.
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why? are you leaving?
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If NYG really doesn't like a 4th round OL, we can just wait another round and grab a project TE in round 5 to be our first offensive pick!


I never like the stupid project , developmental failed OL pick Reese does or Ross picks. A TE would go great lengths but I'd rather use the mid round on Lattimore as our risk.
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boley coming back would be super sweet. focus on DE, DB and OL. boom.
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