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Their pass rush is gonna be sick now. They have no CBs, but they greatly improved their pass rush.
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We're going through a philosophical change on defense. We're getting bigger to play the run. I don't think we'll see as many Nascar packages as the past.
I'm not so sure. I think the idea is to have more options with how to deal with running QBs like RGIII while also being able to handle the OLs of SanFran and Seattle in the playoffs.
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I wonder if we give Sam Montgomery a looksie now. I'm not a big Montgomery fan, but in the 5th round, it wouldn't be a terrible gamble.
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Their pass rush is gonna be sick now. They have no CBs, but they greatly improved their pass rush.
Yeah, they have some crazy talent, but if Pugh's as good as the team thinks he is Wilson and the OL could push them around in the run game to keep those pass rushers off the field. We already did it last year and that was without Pugh. With beatty, Pugh, Brewer stepping in and Wilson being his ridiculously explosive self we can run on them if they go all out on stopping eli, and if they don't throw the house at him he'll pick that secondary apart.
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I forgot Stevie is on the board. Let's get Stevie Scotty!

You know I love me some Beau!
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At this point in the draft, I want BPA regardless of position. Don't reach for a LB just for the sake of getting a LB. Same with CB.

Just load up on strict BPA. I'm hoping Washington is there for us, but if not, just go BPA all the way down the line. Talent makes rosters at this point, positional value doesn't mean anything at this point in the draft.
This x 1,000.

Like the 3rd and 4th round picks of Moore and Nassib. Surprised both of them were available. If we draft Arthur Brown Jr in the 2nd this would be an A draft but the fact that we ignored a 3 down LB for a 2 down rotational DT puzzles me.

Moore is my favorite pick so far but Nassib was a very smart move on our part.
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Reese's presser for this Ryan Nassib pick is up on giants.com
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Cooper Taylor S Richmond in the 5th. Can't wait to hear about how much film you draft experts watched of him.
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None actually. I'm trying to look up info on him right now. He sounds the part physically.

I'm good for 3 rounds, after that your guess is as good as mine when it comes to the draft.
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Jerry's size and speed guy on this pick. Bye bye Sash?
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I wonder if we can move this guy to LB? He's 6 4" 230 lbs and ran 4.49. That's a nice long frame that can easily add 10 lbs and still have excellent speed.

Hmmmmmmmm.
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Side note: Stanford's HC is gonna make an excellent NFL HC. I want him to be Coughlin's heir when TC hangs em up.
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They are saying on BBI that he was worked out a LB at his proday.

Some more Info http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ichmond-safety
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According to this, he has a serious heart condition. That's a little scary.

I think we should convert him to LB, and keep an eye on his heart and see how it shapes up. It's a 5th rounder, it's a good gamble on our part. I like the pick.
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Well I doubt TC hangs it up. He will probably be forced out.
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you guys yelled at me a few weeks ago when I suggested grabbing an heir to Eli, btw. Just saying.

We need Stevie Beau or Jordan Poyer in the 7th
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i had never heard of cooper taylor but just read about him- he is a massive dude. 6'4 230 is LB size for a safety. he reminds me of kam chancellor from what i've read about him. I'm glad we took a safety

the fact we have not drafted a LB yet is very interesting. It indicates we feel really good about J Williams, Keith Rivers and potentially Dan Connor starting for us this year with Kiwi possibly rotating in and Herzlich as a backup.
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We need Stevie Beau or Jordan Poyer in the 7th
I don't think any of us envisioned a player like Nassib being there in the 4th.

I want Stevie. Do we get him? Probably not. But I want him.
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According to this, he has a serious heart condition. That's a little scary.

I think we should convert him to LB, and keep an eye on his heart and see how it shapes up. It's a 5th rounder, it's a good gamble on our part. I like the pick.
i asked my uncle who is a cardiologist and a fellow giants nut and he said his heart condition is not a big deal and it's rather common, nothing too out of the ordinary. IF that is why he fell, then we got a steal
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I am not sure though, that he is groomed to be our heir. Eli is 32, if he plays 5-6 years, that's 37-38, and Nassib would be 28-29. I don't see that as time to be a starter. I think this is a back up QB job or a stock. Buy low, and sell high later down the road type deal.

I think Eli's true heir is in still in HS playing.
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I wonder if we give Sam Montgomery a looksie now. I'm not a big Montgomery fan, but in the 5th round, it wouldn't be a terrible gamble.
He went round 3 to the Texans
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I am not sure though, that he is groomed to be our heir. Eli is 32, if he plays 5-6 years, that's 37-38, and Nassib would be 28-29. I don't see that as time to be a starter. I think this is a back up QB job or a stock. Buy low, and sell high later down the road type deal.

I think Eli's true heir is in still in HS playing.
completely agree. Eli has gotten better every year rand has half a decade more of very, very good football. Look at Peyton, Brady, Favre, etc. Qbs play longer than they used to. This is, as you said, a buy low-sell high scenario and worse comes to worst, Nassib is our backup for the rest of his deal.
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Hopefully, the best case scenerio, is this kid gets good, we trade him like Kolb, Cassell, Matt S. and so on. So the kid gets to play and learns, and we get return on our investment.
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i had never heard of cooper taylor but just read about him- he is a massive dude. 6'4 230 is LB size for a safety. he reminds me of kam chancellor from what i've read about him. I'm glad we took a safety

the fact we have not drafted a LB yet is very interesting. It indicates we feel really good about J Williams, Keith Rivers and potentially Dan Connor starting for us this year with Kiwi possibly rotating in and Herzlich as a backup.
I think Rivers can be great for us if he actually stays healthy. Which is a huge if.

I also think Connor is an upgrade over Blackburn. Won't create the turnovers Blackburn did, but won't be as huge a liability in the run game.

A healthy Jaquian, a healthy Rivers, and Dan Connor is an upgraded LB core. Although, its still a very crappy one in my opinion; it just goes to show how little our staff values LBs which is reasonable in this era of the NFL.
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Our LB gets a lot better also because we loaded up at DT and got some DEs. Just by doing that we have got better at the LB because now they can rally and flow to the ball without worrying about opposing OL chipping off and blocking them.

So you can't look at the unit without analyzing the areas that effect their play. That's the DL and we have a lot of fat bodies at DT now.

Kuhn
Austin
Jenkins
Rodgers
LinJo
Hankins
Patterson

That's a lot of fat people now.
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