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Old 08-01-2012, 12:02 AM    (permalink
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Vick would have put up similar passing numbers with the receiver talent at Baylor and the design of the passing game.
I always wish we could have seen Vick in a Rich Rod type offense. He could've legitimately pushed for 2000 yards rushing.
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Vick would have put up similar passing numbers with the receiver talent at Baylor and the design of the passing game.
I don't disagree, but they are clearly different.
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The hype award goes to Luck...

ESPN and internet coverage in 2012 compared to 2001 is night and day different.... the media would have hyped vick to the sun and back if he was drafted in this draft as opposed to being drafted in 01 when coverage was not near as bad as it is today.

Luck has had so much praise and he has yet to play a game yet.. i remember other #1's getting alot of love and lets just say none of them have lived up to the hype, lets see luck play before we anoint him the next best thing.
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The Luck hype train is pretty unstoppable right now, but its understandable. He is the best QB prospect since Manning and has looked good so far in the preseason.

Football has grown a ton lately. The draft is now a prime time event and people actually semi know who the top prospects were.
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It's revisionist history to say Vick was a better prospect than Luck. There were serious questions about Vick's ability to translate into the NFL, which is why the Chargers balked at taking him. No team would have traded the rights to select Luck. Luck was the bigger, taller, more durable, more polished, more experienced prospect of the two.
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The Luck hype train is pretty unstoppable right now, but its understandable. He is the best QB prospect since Manning and has looked good so far in the preseason.

Football has grown a ton lately. The draft is now a prime time event and people actually semi know who the top prospects were.
Yeah. I wish it wasn't that way but he seems to be handling it pretty well so far. I don't think you are gonna see him on a bunch of Visa or Sony commercials like his predecessor though.
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My problem with Luck is that he unlike other top QB's in the last decade has been anointed by the media, when sure he has the height, size, played in a pro style offense.... blah blah blah

Dude choked in the big games such as his outing against Oregon this year.. he hasnt stepped on the field and is already being talked about being the next Peyton Manning... give me a break, for all we know Luck could turn into the next bust or average QB which i think is far more likely then him becoming the next Peyton Manning(one of the best QB's to ever play)

The media has fallen in love with the guy and Im honestly to the point that ESPN or any other media source that thinks Luck will come in an have an impact close to Cam Newton's last year is a joke, and for him to make the colts a winning team is a joke...

He is not proven, and plays on a terrrible team...
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Wasnt the complain for Peyton in college that he never won the big game? Actually that was still the complaint on him until he won his SB. It's a dumb media meme though.
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My problem with Luck is that he unlike other top QB's in the last decade has been anointed by the media, when sure he has the height, size, played in a pro style offense.... blah blah blah

Dude choked in the big games
"its the mediaz fault blah blah blah he choked in big games blah blah blah"

Same rehashed criticisms get used on every top QB prospect.
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"its the mediaz fault blah blah blah he choked in big games blah blah blah"

Same rehashed criticisms get used on every top QB prospect.
Ok I will give you that... but Luck somehow has gotten this "free ride" from the media and just assume he is destined for greatness... which In my opinion is for less likely then him becoming a bust/average player..

The odds of him having the impact and performance that Manning had are in my opinion far less likely then him becoming someone like Phillip Rivers or Carson Palmer...

I guess my rant is more towards the media than Luck, because of their coverage and reporting... Luck is going to one of the worst teams in the last 10 years, they are not talented. That kind of team scenario USUALLY results in what i like to call David Carr syndrome, very talented guy but with no one to throw to, no one to block for you, and no running game to help quickly makes you look terrible and rattles your confidence...

The colts could easily give luck David Carr syndrome... but the Media is quick to call him the next Peyton Manning aka first ballot hof QB
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"its the mediaz fault blah blah blah he choked in big games blah blah blah"

Same rehashed criticisms get used on every top QB prospect.
And you should remember this thread is talking about HYPE, which is created by the media....
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Ok I will give you that... but Luck somehow has gotten this "free ride" from the media and just assume he is destined for greatness... which In my opinion is for less likely then him becoming a bust/average player..

The odds of him having the impact and performance that Manning had are in my opinion far less likely then him becoming someone like Phillip Rivers or Carson Palmer...

I guess my rant is more towards the media than Luck, because of their coverage and reporting... Luck is going to one of the worst teams in the last 10 years, they are not talented. That kind of team scenario USUALLY results in what i like to call David Carr syndrome, very talented guy but with no one to throw to, no one to block for you, and no running game to help quickly makes you look terrible and rattles your confidence...

The colts could easily give luck David Carr syndrome... but the Media is quick to call him the next Peyton Manning aka first ballot hof QB
I'd say the media is hyping up Griffin much more than Luck.
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Ok I will give you that... but Luck somehow has gotten this "free ride" from the media and just assume he is destined for greatness... which In my opinion is for less likely then him becoming a bust/average player..

The odds of him having the impact and performance that Manning had are in my opinion far less likely then him becoming someone like Phillip Rivers or Carson Palmer...

I guess my rant is more towards the media than Luck, because of their coverage and reporting... Luck is going to one of the worst teams in the last 10 years, they are not talented. That kind of team scenario USUALLY results in what i like to call David Carr syndrome, very talented guy but with no one to throw to, no one to block for you, and no running game to help quickly makes you look terrible and rattles your confidence...

The colts could easily give luck David Carr syndrome... but the Media is quick to call him the next Peyton Manning aka first ballot hof QB
For someone that hates the media you are taking them at their word way too much when it comes to the Colts chances this year. I've seen some idiots saying the Colts will get the first pick in the draft again this year. What these fools fail to realize is that we only barely got the first pick LAST year. It came down to the final quarter of the final game. That was with Kerry Collins, Curtis Painter, and Dan Orlovsky throwing the ball and one of the worst defenses in NFL history.

The 2012 Colts are more talented than the 2011 Colts at every position on offense except WR. They are better-coached and have a better GM. They have a defensive scheme that can actually be successful. People expecting another 2-win season are going to be surprised or disappointed or both.
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I may be wrong, but before Manning was a bronco I felt the clear MVP of last NFL season was #18, the almost exact team from the year before looked TERRIBLE without him playing... that being said I dont expect Luck to be able to restore the 10+ wins.


Sure Luck is easily better than Painter or who ever else you guys could find off the street to play QB... the point is the Colts even without the QB issue last year were lackluster in the talent department.. having a new head coach, new defensive scheme(with players that dont fit), rookie QB i honestly wouldnt say the colts win more than 5 games next year
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I may be wrong, but before Manning was a bronco I felt the clear MVP of last NFL season was #18, the almost exact team from the year before looked TERRIBLE without him playing... that being said I dont expect Luck to be able to restore the 10+ wins.


Sure Luck is easily better than Painter or who ever else you guys could find off the street to play QB... the point is the Colts even without the QB issue last year were lackluster in the talent department.. having a new head coach, new defensive scheme(with players that dont fit), rookie QB i honestly wouldnt say the colts win more than 5 games next year
My over/under is 6. Over half of the players in camp this year have never worn a Colts uniform. It's a completely different team. I agree Manning is the reason the old team won anything. But there is a reason we have like $40M in dead cap space this year. We cut a ton of dead weight players.

IMO winning 5-7 games will be a far cry from being one of the worst teams in football.
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My problem with Luck is that he unlike other top QB's in the last decade has been anointed by the media, when sure he has the height, size, played in a pro style offense.... blah blah blah

Dude choked in the big games such as his outing against Oregon this year.. he hasnt stepped on the field and is already being talked about being the next Peyton Manning... give me a break, for all we know Luck could turn into the next bust or average QB which i think is far more likely then him becoming the next Peyton Manning(one of the best QB's to ever play)
I agree with you assessment that the hype is out of control, but you are completely wrong about him being a choker in big games. Oregon was a better team than us and was just a bad match up for our defense & team speed. Luck wasn't the reason we lost that game.
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McNabb was hyped to the heavens when he left Syracuse too.
There's no question Luck would have gone ahead of Vick in every scenario imaginable.

Luck had better coaching, better grasp of the position, played in a more complex offense, he called his own plays, was bigger than Vick and a superior athlete in his own right.

And Vick was more of a playmaker at the QB position when he was at Va Tech than he was a pure QB.
IMO Vick was drafted more on pure spec and potential upside than his demonstrated ability in actual college games.
Vick was taken 1/1 by Atlanta, but I don't believe he was regarded by every NFL GM as the consensus #1 pick.

RGIII is a better pro prospect than Vick, and even he couldn't get drafted ahead of Luck.
I remember a lot of people thinking Vick should've stayed 1 more year at VTech to polish his passing game.
I do remember EVERYBODY was amazed by him still though, his mobility, his cannon of an arm, just needed to show consistency with his accuracy and reads.
2010 I think is what most people envisioned Vick reaching to, being a dynamic rusher and thrower.
A lot of people questioned his passing, but figured he would be such a dual threat he would revolutionize the game.
His freshman year, he was "Wow!"
Sophmore, had moments but didn't do a whole lot. I mean Lee Suggs had 27 TD's for VTech that year. What was special for Vick was that NC Game between FSU in 1999.
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I remember a lot of people thinking Vick should've stayed 1 more year at VTech to polish his passing game.
I do remember EVERYBODY was amazed by him still though, his mobility, his cannon of an arm, just needed to show consistency with his accuracy and reads.
2010 I think is what most people envisioned Vick reaching to, being a dynamic rusher and thrower.
A lot of people questioned his passing, but figured he would be such a dual threat he would revolutionize the game.
His freshman year, he was "Wow!"
Sophmore, had moments but didn't do a whole lot. I mean Lee Suggs had 27 TD's for VTech that year. What was special for Vick was that NC Game between FSU in 1999.
Vick was more than alright in his sophomore year. He lost one game at Tech, that obviously being the national championship.
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Luck is an ATHLETIC QB. He's top 7-8 one of the most athletic QBs in the league the minute the regular season starts.
Vick/RGIII/Rogers/Newton/Luck/Locker/Tannehill/Gabbert/Tebow....not necessarily in that order.

If a QB has mastered the passing game, that additional mobility on rollouts and beyond the LOS is almost impossible to defend against.



No, but all homerism aside Vick had the most hype of any qb I have ever seen. If he had the arm to match the legs, I could easily see him becoming the MJ of the sport
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LOL. For all Alex Smith's faults, he is one of the more athletic QBs in the pros.
Vick lost two games as a starter at Va Tech, the NC game to FSU and once to the Hurricanes in the regular season in 2000.

As a RS freshman he was remarkable in that NC game despite the INTs late. It was amazing to see him dodge 3-4 defenders in the backfield and either scramble downfield or throw a strike.

Maybe the greatest game of Vick's career. After re-watching these highlights, I understand where all the hype came from. He could do it all as a college QB.


Bobby Bowden compared him to Charlie Ward except faster.
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No, but all homerism aside Vick had the most hype of any qb I have ever seen. If he had the arm to match the legs, I could easily see him becoming the MJ of the sport
He does. Vick throws a damn pretty ball and he can sling it 50 yards downfield with the flick of a wrist. Now, if he had the brain to match his arm and legs...
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LOL. For all Alex Smith's faults, he is one of the more athletic QBs in the pros.
Vick lost two games as a starter at Va Tech, the NC game to FSU and once to the Hurricanes in the regular season in 2000.

As a RS freshman he was remarkable in that NC game despite the INTs late. It was amazing to see him dodge 3-4 defenders in the backfield and either scramble downfield or throw a strike.

Maybe the greatest game of Vick's career. After re-watching these highlights, I understand where all the hype came from. He could do it all as a college QB.


Bobby Bowden compared him to Charlie Ward except faster.
Vick was injured for the Miami game. He lost once.
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Vick was more than alright in his sophomore year. He lost one game at Tech, that obviously being the national championship.
I'm merely going by the stat sheets I saw. His passing stats as a total don't wow you, and neither do the rushing that much to be honest. Makes me wonder if VTech reigned him in most of the time.

But yeah, he was hyped out of this world. Only thing he didn't have was coaching and the brain to analyze/study film for reading defenses.
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I always wish we could have seen Vick in a Rich Rod type offense. He could've legitimately pushed for 2000 yards rushing.
I agree. Denard Robinson rushed for 1700 his sophomore year, and he's not the talent that Vick was.

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