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View Poll Results: Who Was the Best Team Last Year?
Packers 41 49.40%
Patriots 4 4.82%
Ravens 3 3.61%
Steelers 0 0%
49ers 7 8.43%
Texans 6 7.23%
Saints 3 3.61%
Giants 17 20.48%
Lions 1 1.20%
Bengals 1 1.20%
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We beat the Patriots in that game so yes, we were absolutely better. Were they more talented? Yeah. Is that the question? No. I don't get what's so hard about this. I think people are confusing "best" and "most talented"

Stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet. Go look back at a list of the best teams ever and I guarantee you that the 2007 Giants are not on that list but the 2007 Pats will be.
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Stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet. Go look back at a list of the best teams ever and I guarantee you that the 2007 Giants are not on that list but the 2007 Pats will be.
HAHAHAHAHA go back and look at subjective lists of someone on the internet, use their opinions. that's right, that'll prove me wrong!

hilarious. Again, I take it as:

1) Best =/= Most talented. That's how I see it. Others see it differently and I can understand that viewpoint, I just don't agree with it.

2) We're not talking just the regular season, we're taking the playoffs. I'm not saying best regular season, I'm taking into account the playoffs.

But hey, there are lists on the internet that go against my argument, so I'm an idiot on the internet.

*ps. If the Giants didn't win this Super Bowl, would I be defending this like I am? Not as much, no, you're right. I'm not denying it, but it's my stance regardless. The best are the champs, the ones who are best in all facets and variables of the game throughout not just the season, but postseason as well*
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HAHAHAHAHA go back and look at subjective lists of someone on the internet, use their opinions. that's right, that'll prove me wrong!

hilarious. Again, I take it as:

1) Best =/= Most talented. That's how I see it. Others see it differently and I can understand that viewpoint, I just don't agree with it.

2) We're not talking just the regular season, we're taking the playoffs. I'm not saying best regular season, I'm taking into account the playoffs.

But hey, there are lists on the internet that go against my argument, so I'm an idiot on the internet.

*ps. If the Giants didn't win this Super Bowl, would I be defending this like I am? Not as much, no, you're right. I'm not denying it, but it's my stance regardless. The best are the champs, the ones who are best in all facets and variables of the game throughout not just the season, but postseason as well*
Just winning the championship doesn't make you the best team. Denver beating the steelers in the playoffs doesn't mean they were the better team. They were the healthier team.
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Just winning the championship doesn't make you the best team. Denver beating the steelers in the playoffs doesn't mean they were the better team. They were the healthier team.
So being the best trained, or having the best depth, or surviving the war of attrition that is the NFL season best, means nothing? This is my point. Steelers were obviously the more talented team, but they weren't the better team that day. Showing up and playing through injuries, having better depth, or adapting to injuries makes you better.
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The best team last year was the Packers. The best team when it mattered most the Giants.
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I really don't understand this argument. The Giants are the best, because they beat the Patriots in one game? So are the Chiefs better than the Packers? Are the Redskins better than the Giants? More than "being the best" contributes to winning a game. There's a bit of luck and then there's how you perform on the day. The Giants were the best team against the Patriots in the Superbowl, but were they the best team throughout the season? Of course not.
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I really don't understand this argument. The Giants are the best, because they beat the Patriots in one game? So are the Chiefs better than the Packers? Are the Redskins better than the Giants? More than "being the best" contributes to winning a game. There's a bit of luck and then there's how you perform on the day. The Giants were the best team against the Patriots in the Superbowl, but were they the best team throughout the season? Of course not.
Not one game...being good enough through the regular season to make the playoffs and then being the best in the playoffs. The Giants were the best team in the playoffs, so it's far from one game.
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Were the Packers the best team in 2010?
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Lots of butt hurt Giant fans in this thread. You guys got the ultimate prize quit ******* crying like babies because people disagree with your opinions. "Last year" is more then just the playoffs.
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Were the Packers the best team in 2010?
For the whole season? No. We were inconsistent, losing to the Redskins and Dolphins at home. We lost nearly every close game we played in the regular season, and didn't even finish first in our division. I don't think you can call a team that finished the season 2nd in their division and then went on a hot streak and won 4 games in a row, the best team in the league that year.
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So what's the purpose of the thread then guys? Why didn't the thread just ask "Who won the super bowl last year" they made the distinction for a reason.
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Were the Packers the best team in 2010?
I thought it was the Ravens or the Packers.
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So what's the purpose of the thread then guys? Why didn't the thread just ask "Who won the super bowl last year" they made the distinction for a reason.
He asked a question to spring debate. Different sides and opinions came out. Now it's turned into a "Giants are butthurt homers thread" because when someone disagrees with you, ad hom attacks are thrown around and people get all up in arms. Actually, this was all started because the OP got in a debate with a redskins fan on a different board.

I've said at least 3 times my stance and my opinion on the terminology. Who ever wins the Super Bowl that year is the best team. It's how I see it. Feel free to call me a butthurt whiny homer, but it's my stance regardless if the Giants, Eagles, Chargers or Oilers win it.
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For the whole season? No. We were inconsistent, losing to the Redskins and Dolphins at home. We lost nearly every close game we played in the regular season, and didn't even finish first in our division. I don't think you can call a team that finished the season 2nd in their division and then went on a hot streak and won 4 games in a row, the best team in the league that year.
You don't consider the 15-1 2011 Packers an extension of the 2010 SB winning Packers?
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For the whole season? No. We were inconsistent, losing to the Redskins and Dolphins at home. We lost nearly every close game we played in the regular season, and didn't even finish first in our division. I don't think you can call a team that finished the season 2nd in their division and then went on a hot streak and won 4 games in a row, the best team in the league that year.
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You don't consider the 15-1 2011 Packers an extension of the 2010 SB winning Packers?
Yeah, we carried on what we had from 2010 into 2011, but they're different seasons. If you're ranking who was the best each year you can't take what happened before or after that into account.
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Yeah, we carried on what we had from 2010 into 2011, but they're different seasons. If you're ranking who was the best each year you can't take what happened before or after that into account.
Well I think you can. I already said I don't think the Giants were the best team throughout the year last year though. The 2008 Giants success to me proved that the 2007 SB Giants weren't a fluke though even though I know no one said that.
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If every team in the league played every other team once, I believe the Packers would have came out with the best record. That's how I'm going to define best.

That doesn't take anything away from the Giants. They are the Champions and deserve to be obviously. But the "best" team doesn't always, or even most of the time really, win the title.
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Well I think you can. I already said I don't think the Giants were the best team throughout the year last year though. The 2008 Giants success to me proved that the 2007 SB Giants weren't a fluke though even though I know no one said that.
It could prove they weren't a fluke, but it doesn't mean they played any better. In 2010 the Packers went 14-6. Going 15-2 the next season doesn't change that fact.
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Asking who the 'best team' was last season is vague.
The season includes the regular season schedule AND the playoffs. Every NFL HC and player will tell you that the NFL season is divided into halves, the 2nd half in many ways more important in the first. However if you don't perform well enough in the first half(regular season), you don't get the chance to prove yourself in the postseason.

The best team last season was the Giants.
The best regular season team was the Packers.

No one really gives a f____ who the best regular season team is, unless you own season tickets.

There is only ONE display in the HOF for the best regular season team in the NFL, and that's the 1972 Dolphins.
There won't be one for undefeated 2007 Patriots.

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Asking who the 'best team' was last season is vague.
The season includes the regular season schedule AND the playoffs. Every NFL HC and player will tell you that the NFL season is divided into halves, the 2nd half in many ways more important in the first. However if you don't perform well enough in the first half(regular season), you don't get the chance to prove yourself in the postseason.

The best team last season were the Giants.
The best regular season team were the Packers.

No one really gives a f____ who the best regular season team is, unless you own season tickets.

There is only ONE display in the HOF for the best regular season team in the NFL, and that's the 1972 Dolphins.
There won't be one for undefeated 2007 Patriots.

It's all about winning rings.
The 2007 Pats won more games than the undefeated Dolphins.. (true story) I think there will be some sort of recognition in the HOF for them. They're the first to ever go 16-0 during the regular season and only team to go 18-0 EVER, in NFL history. That's a huge accomplishment and one that's way harder than winning the Lombardi trophy considering only two teams in NFL history have achieved that milestone.

One game does not make a season or break a season of that magnitude. Kings beat Aces sometimes in NLH but it doesn't mean it's the better hand.
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Stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet. Go look back at a list of the best teams ever and I guarantee you that the 2007 Giants are not on that list but the 2007 Pats will be.
Was the purpose of your second sentence to try and disprove the first?
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I really don't understand this argument. The Giants are the best, because they beat the Patriots in one game? So are the Chiefs better than the Packers? Are the Redskins better than the Giants? More than "being the best" contributes to winning a game. There's a bit of luck and then there's how you perform on the day. The Giants were the best team against the Patriots in the Superbowl, but were they the best team throughout the season? Of course not.
It's because with their seasons on the line and both on the verge of accomplishing the entire point of the NFL season, the giants were the better team when they met. You can not compare that to a regular season upset of a Packers team that'd already wrapped up their division and didn't need that win.

The regular season only matters as it relates to the playoffs and once the playoffs started, the Giants were just as good as the Pats until the Superbowl, where they were better.

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Lots of butt hurt Giant fans in this thread. You guys got the ultimate prize quit ******* crying like babies because people disagree with your opinions. "Last year" is more then just the playoffs.
how dare you!...
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Rosebud comes in with some more Pointed information that remains irrelevent to the conversation. Again, just because it's a one and done tournament does not mean the best player or team wins. You have to take in the entire season because of this little thing that doesn't exist in your world obviously. It's called variance. Look it up.
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Rosebud comes in with some more Pointed information that remains irrelevent to the conversation. Again, just because it's a one and done tournament does not mean the best player or team wins. You have to take in the entire season because of this little thing that doesn't exist in your world obviously. It's called variance. Look it up.
But why? No one has made an argument for the regular season being anything more than a qualifying process for the post-season tournament. If that's the case who cares how they qualified? Let's look at how they did in the tournament that matters and from the start of the playoffs, the 2012 Giants were the best team in football.
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