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Old 08-06-2012, 03:44 PM    (permalink
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TBH, i doubt Mrs Potatohead is in the game. If she was, she would be a mason imo.

Then again guessing characters in a game doesnt make sense.
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I assumed a safe claim means everyone gets a character that he can claim. And i dont have a safe claim.
But we were discussing earlier how 'safe claim' is something that only mafia gets, and so with your last post it made it seem like you were inadvertently outing yourself as mafia.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:46 PM    (permalink
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??? what are you talking about?
I brought up safe claims because I am THE BIGGEST hater of Character revealing.

I was the one that did away with it... It became a staple to not have it in games because of how many games I mod and how much I detest the action.

The last game that had Character Revealing was LOTR which I was Mafia where I got ****** out of a win due to Character Revealing... The way Commie tried to combat that was to give us safe claims.

I really have no idea what in gods name is suspicious about hating a pretty ****** "feature" Grizz decided to put in the game.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:48 PM    (permalink
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But we were discussing earlier how 'safe claim' is something that only mafia gets, and so with your last post it made it seem like you were inadvertently outing yourself as mafia.
[ooc]just for your information im GOW/Renji, idk if you knew yet that they also call me renji[/ooc]

I only saw that safeclaim was a character someone could claim. I assumed it would help mafia (obviously) but also the town characters to actually confuse mafia making it a lil less obvious. Cause if town didnt get some, character revealing benefits the mafia.

So since i obviously dont have one, mafia benefits most from character reveals.
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TBH, i doubt Mrs Potatohead is in the game. If she was, she would be a mason imo.

Then again guessing characters in a game doesnt make sense.
My thought would be that the toys still around in Toy Story 3 are the main ones and would all be around.
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Mrs. Potatohead would definitely be in the game, she is a rather important character in the movies, but she doesn't do much in the movies other than nag Mr. Potatohead. It doesn't seem that odd that she be a townie, but she most likely is masoned with Mr. Potatohead as someone else stated before.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:50 PM    (permalink
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I brought up safe claims because I am THE BIGGEST hater of Character revealing.

I was the one that did away with it... It became a staple to not have it in games because of how many games I mod and how much I detest the action.

The last game that had Character Revealing was LOTR which I was Mafia where I got ****** out of a win due to Character Revealing... The way Commie tried to combat that was to give us safe claims.

I really have no idea what in gods name is suspicious about hating a pretty ****** "feature" Grizz decided to put in the game.
the thing that makes my spider sense tingle is that you seem to know that its in the game. You dont have any other assumptions. I mean how do we know that mafia has safe claims?
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Eh, if IBC were mafia, it seems it would unquestionably benefit him to keep the safeclaim things under wrap. No one had mentioned it up until he butted in.
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the thing that makes my spider sense tingle is that you seem to know that its in the game. You dont have any other assumptions. I mean how do we know that mafia has safe claims?
Well if not than we all role reveal and the game is over... Sooo unless there is some sort of way around that then there is seriously no point in playing.

Don't you get that at all?
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the thing that makes my spider sense tingle is that you seem to know that its in the game. You dont have any other assumptions. I mean how do we know that mafia has safe claims?
We don't know, but as IBC said, Grizz most likely wouldn't include character revealing without safe claims otherwise the mafia could be outed easily.
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Well if not than we all role reveal and the game is over... Sooo unless there is some sort of way around that then there is seriously no point in playing.

Don't you get that at all?
I DO GET THAT. But Grizz couldve just as well added a bunch of ninja and unblockable kills. I mean there could be other ways to work around it really.
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As for the Mrs. Potatohead claim, its hard to make any judgement from that. The first thing I thought when I read that was what some have stated, that she would actually be a mason if good because that makes perfect sense. But of course there's nothing really to imply Grizz went that route. Mrs. Potatohead would also make sense to give as a safeclaim.
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Eh, if IBC were mafia, it seems it would unquestionably benefit him to keep the safeclaim things under wrap. No one had mentioned it up until he butted in.
It can benefit mafia though. It makes us doubt every single claim someone makes of a lesser character.
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Well if not than we all role reveal and the game is over... Sooo unless there is some sort of way around that then there is seriously no point in playing.

Don't you get that at all?
I agree, mass character claims should be avoided because that really lessens the fun of the game. That being said, if you are going to go ahead and reveal your role, I can't see that legitimate of a reason to keep your character hidden. If kept to a case-by-case, individualized basis I don't mind it as much.
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Just for clarification on how much I detest name claiming.

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Well seeing as we should have won this game if it wasn't for stupid ass role reveals.

Lynch: Cain

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When we said role claiming we meant name claiming.

As you said telling your role is completely necessary and cannot be removed
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This... Not that the Potter game was bad by any means but with good write ups and learning the character/ role after they should be enough to avoid the instant town win when role claiming is used
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Wait what...?

That isn't a good thing.
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I dont doubt you hate it. Never said it. I just think its curious that you are adamant that the solution grizz picked is a safe claim
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I dont doubt you hate it. Never said it. I just think its curious that you are adamant that the solution grizz picked is a safe claim
DUDE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. If the Mafia did not have a safeclaim this is how the game would go.

"Caddy (Because its always Caddy that starts this ****): Everyone what is your character."

*Everyone that has a town based character role reveals*

*Mafia is left to scramble to look up ****** toys that wouldn't really be in the game to claim*


*Town then procceeds to lynch every person with a half assed character claim*

End of game.
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It can benefit mafia though. It makes us doubt every single claim someone makes of a lesser character.
Hmm. This part actually makes a bit of sense. I think minor character claims would have been doubted, anyway, but still worth keeping in mind.
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DUDE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. If the Mafia did not have a safeclaim this is how the game would go.

"Caddy (Because its always Caddy that starts this ****): Everyone what is your character."

*Everyone that has a town based character role reveals*

*Mafia is left to scramble to look up ****** toys that wouldn't really be in the game to claim*


*Town then procceeds to lynch every person with a half assed character claim*

End of game.
Did i say there was no solution? I said it doesnt have to be a safeclaim.
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Damn IBC gettin mad lol

I'm in gtdamn Bakersfield, its blazing hot and I'm sweating my balls off. Not happy...ppl...make me happy lol
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:10 PM    (permalink
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Did i say there was no solution? I said it doesnt have to be a safeclaim.
Ninja kills and **** like that would still basically give the same result.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:13 PM    (permalink
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unvote: jr

vote: gow

And I come full circle back to you. You done goofed and I am going with my gut on this one.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:15 PM    (permalink
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Ninja kills and **** like that would still basically give the same result.
there could be stuff like giving mafia extra powers if they find out certain people or something.

Also, yay Gonzo is back at lynching me
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Meh I could really go either way with Mrs. Grizz. If the mafia were afforded safeclaims, they would have been given the town's win condition and likely a somewhat obscure toy, which would therefore make sense to claim to be a townie.

But I am kind of leaning that her role reveal was sincere, just completely unnecessary.

What has made you change so much from this post Cigaro? I agree that Mrs. Grizz got overly defensive, but I think you're pushing her lynching for a pretty silly reason, especially after you made the post I quoted above.
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