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Old 08-17-2012, 07:34 PM    (permalink
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Like how Flacco looks so far.
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Meh. They paid him too much. There's not a whole lot special about his game. Solid all around runner but Stewart is the better of the two in my mind.
His money is his money, it has nothing to do with his game.

Williams has it all. Speed, shiftiness, he can catch, pass protect, he can run with power, he can make guys miss, run inside, run outside. There's plenty of special in his game. If he got the touches of some other premier backs in this league his name would be right up there with them.

I'm a big Stewart fan too. Williams is better but Stewart is younger. It's a close comparison though.
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A couple of those balls are on the money but the receiver needs to catch it. I still have hope for Flacco. I wish Torrey Smith was playing tonight. I'm banking on them becoming a top deep ball combo.
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His money is his money, it has nothing to do with his game.

Williams has it all. Speed, shiftiness, he can catch, pass protect, he can run with power, he can make guys miss, run inside, run outside. There's plenty of special in his game. If he got the touches of some other premier backs in this league his name would be right up there with them.

I'm a big Stewart fan too. Williams is better but Stewart is younger. It's a close comparison though.
So you're saying he's Jim Brown, Walter Payton and Barry Sanders all in one?

He's perhaps average to above average across the board. And you know I won't pay running backs anything ever. I'd run youngsters on rookie contracts until their wheels fall off and then let them be someone elses problem.
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So you're saying he's Jim Brown, Walter Payton and Barry Sanders all in one?

He's perhaps average to above average across the board. And you know I won't pay running backs anything ever. I'd run youngsters on rookie contracts until their wheels fall off and then let them be someone elses problem.
I don't disagree with your philosophy, I agree with it. I don't like paying running backs either.

But I think you're being too extreme with your critique of them. Williams is a very good running back. I'd be willing to pay 8 mill a season for an elite RB, but that's my max and it would take a special talent for that money.

Having that said, Williams is a great RB and his contract shouldn't effect our perception of his game. That's not fair.
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Kruger got coverage skillz.

Man I love Ray Lewis. Immediately after the play he just runs over and congratulates Kruger. His passion is unmatched.
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D-Will has been disrespected his entire career. Very few give him the credit he deserves. He has been better than Stewart every year until last. Not saying he's worth the contract but he's a great RB
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Nice reverse from the Ravens.
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Jurrell Casey is a god damned hoss.

Locker very erratic tonight. Not too good

Great breakup by Akeem Ayers leads to the INT... I like our young LBers alot
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Williams is a great RB no doubt about it. I think they overpaid him, but its not like he is some barely starting scrub. The 1/2 punch in Carolina is awesome.
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not to jinx it, but Gabbert isnt looking that bad right now.
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Umm.....why is Babbert 8/9 with a TD right now?

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Williams isn't elite, but he is definitely better than just above average as well.

Anyways, I had to pick up something, anyone watching the Panthers game want to give me a recap of the first quarter?
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Yes but it's at a position that is one of the easiest to fill in the league. I'd rather invest the money in a pair of just about anything else...stud receivers, stud corners, stud pass rushers, stud bookend tackles...

Obviously easier said than done, but it's much harder to do when you've already invested a good chunk of money in a pair of running backs.
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Yes but it's at a position that is one of the easiest to fill in the league. I'd rather invest the money in a pair of just about anything else...stud receivers, stud corners, stud pass rushers, stud bookend tackles...

Obviously easier said than done, but it's much harder to do when you've already invested a good chunk of money in a pair of running backs.
We get it BB, you don't value RBs highly.
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Yes but it's at a position that is one of the easiest to fill in the league. I'd rather invest the money in a pair of just about anything else...stud receivers, stud corners, stud pass rushers, stud bookend tackles...

Obviously easier said than done, but it's much harder to do when you've already invested a good chunk of money in a pair of running backs.
It depends. It's not necessarily the easiest position to fill. If your OL sucks balls, then a high level RB will absolutely make a difference.

If you have a stud OL, then yes, you can replace your RBs relatively easy. It all depends on how your team is built, and what direction it's moving in in the foreseeable future.

There's more than 1 way to skin a cat.

Some teams actually save their investments on the OL. OL talent is very expensive, and to be honest, in many cases not worth the investment either. I've stated for a long while now that I feel LT is the most overrated position in football. Interior OL talent is now getting paid a ridiculous amount of money too.

So there's a balance that needs to be realized. Is a PB LG worth 50 million bucks when you can draft a guy in the 1st round making 15 mill over the same amount of years to replace him?

Some teams have a farm system where they draft a bunch of raw OL in the middle rounds and just groom and develop them together and plug and play when its time. That's another way of saving money while getting good production. If you can save money along the OL, you actually save a TON more than if you tried saving the money at RB.

Again, there's no right or wrong answer.
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Yes but it's at a position that is one of the easiest to fill in the league. I'd rather invest the money in a pair of just about anything else...stud receivers, stud corners, stud pass rushers, stud bookend tackles...

Obviously easier said than done, but it's much harder to do when you've already invested a good chunk of money in a pair of running backs.
I completely agree. I would never have given both of those backs big money like that. RB should be one position where you don't kill your cap. I'd pay for one elite back and then just use vets/filler behind them.

For the Panthers its already a sunk cost, but at least they should be an asset for the offense. They can both go hard and keep each other rested.


The only thing that really matters is to get a great QB. They fix 85% of a bad team.
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It would be comical if all those critics who threw Gabbert into a trash heap after his rookie year end up with massive egg on their face. Not a fan of his, but the criticism was waaaay over the top.
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I think Cundiff is done. Tucker is my choice.

Cundiff's kickoff value isn't nearly as important with the new rule and just don't trust him anymore to make the big kick.
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