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Old 11-05-2012, 10:50 PM    (permalink) 
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Note that I like Te'o, but the hype is a bit much. Shazier is a very good, but not OMG awesome outside LB for OSU. His stats (I know, stats can lie) are better than Te'o's.

My point is, he's very good, just not Heisman worthy, or even extraordinary. He's a good story, which is why the media is hyping him.
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Note that I like Te'o, but the hype is a bit much. Shazier is a very good, but not OMG awesome outside LB for OSU. His stats (I know, stats can lie) are better than Te'o's.

My point is, he's very good, just not Heisman worthy, or even extraordinary. He's a good story, which is why the media is hyping him.
Seems odd that this:

is a half a sack or less, I believe he had half a sack in the Pitt game.
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is a half a sack or less, I believe he had half a sack in the Pitt game.
Maybe it means that he only has one nut?

Looks like it is 1.5.
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Collin Klein didn't look like a Heisman Trophy winner tonight even though they beat TCU.

Johnny Football did.

This is a down-year for Heisman production all-in-all.

Will there be a Signature Moment coming down the stretch?
Maniel won't have another spotlight like today..... but if he racks up big numbers, who knows?
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Collin Klein didn't look like a Heisman Trophy winner tonight even though they beat TCU.

Johnny Football did.

This is a down-year for Heisman production all-in-all.

Will there be a Signature Moment coming down the stretch?
Maniel won't have another spotlight like today..... but if he racks up big numbers, who knows?
I wouldn't go that far. Alot of players are having great seasons. ESPN basically starting the Griffin hype train after the TCU game last year and handed him the trophy after that game. I felt Luck was robbed last year because of this.

Manziel is a more exciting player than Griffin - he is playing against better competition and the thing that separates him from Griffin is the fact he is a much more improvisational/spontaneous player.

I still think Klein should be the frontrunner - he is the key cog in the offense and the reason they are going to be ranked #1 when the next poll comes out. He is under appreciated because he is consistently good every week.. He is a very productive player and is responsible for 30+ TDs with two games to go. If he does falter down the stretch Manziel would be the next man up.
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I think the final 5 at this point are set after Manziel upsetting McCarron and Alabama. The final 5 will Klein, Barner, Te'o, Manziel and Miller. WRs simply don't get the hype they deserve and USC failed miserably to live up to live up to their expectations this year and their record isn't good enough to send a WR from their team to the finals, no matter how good he is.
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when you consider the fact that Manziel has 2 stat-padder games vs SHS and Missouri to end the season, I find it very hard to believe that anyone else is going to take this Heisman from him.

he could easily hit 3000 passing yards, 1200 rushing yards, and 40 total tds by the time this season ends
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when you consider the fact that Manziel has 2 stat-padder games vs SHS and Missouri to end the season, I find it very hard to believe that anyone else is going to take this Heisman from him.

he could easily hit 3000 passing yards, 1200 rushing yards, and 40 total tds by the time this season ends
Stat padder games yes but also two games no one will be watching/giving a **** about.
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doesn't matter after what he did against Bama. Klein and other others have to have memorable monster games between now and then to get the Heisman from Manziel imo....but the overrated team record stat might win out again you never know.
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when you consider the fact that Manziel has 2 stat-padder games vs SHS and Missouri to end the season, I find it very hard to believe that anyone else is going to take this Heisman from him.

he could easily hit 3000 passing yards, 1200 rushing yards, and 40 total tds by the time this season ends
Check how many times a freshman or RS freshman has ever won the Heisman.
Yeah what class you're in isn't supposed to matter, but to many older voters it still does.

Besides Manziel is going up against a guy in Klein who has his team in NC title contention.
Manziel will be the frontrunner next season but he's not gonna win it in 2012.
(I don't think he's going to win it!lol It's not like it would be impossible for Manziel to win it though.)
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when you consider the fact that Manziel has 2 stat-padder games vs SHS and Missouri to end the season, I find it very hard to believe that anyone else is going to take this Heisman from him.

he could easily hit 3000 passing yards, 1200 rushing yards, and 40 total tds by the time this season ends
Eh, Klein has 2 as well. You have Baylor giving up 40 points per game and then Texas giving up 30. Plus the Texas game will have everyone watching because that will be the game against a likely top 12-15 team to remain unbeaten and finish #1 in the country.

Klein will either have to lose or play really badly in either game to not win the Heisman now
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I know everyone's decided they don't want a WR to win the Heisman but...

Marqise Lee: 107 rec, 1605 yards, 14 TD's/10 carries, 110 yards/701 return yards, 1 TD/220 all purpose yards per game
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Marqise Lee: 107 rec, 1605 yards, 14 TD's/10 carries, 110 yards/701 return yards, 1 TD/220 all purpose yards per game
WR on a 7-4 team that wont see a conference championship game, though.
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WR on a 7-4 team that wont see a conference championship game, though.
I understand there's other external factors that go into winning the Heisman but he is the best player in college football.
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Basically the same stats as Kendall Wright for Baylor last season.
It's really hard for a WR to win the Heisman if most of his production is only from pass receptions.
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So we all know who's getting the Heisman after tonight right?
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If K-State loses, that leaves an opening for who??
Right now Manziel looks like the most deserving candidate IMO.
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Braxton isn't getting enough mention. He won't win, but if he can lead Ohio State to 12-0 and have 3000+ total yards I cant help but think he'd win it if this team was playing for a NC.

Not getting a conference title game would usually hurt. But no other candidate will be playing in a conference title game either.
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Klein
Te'o
Miller
Barner
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Manziel for Heisman.
Yup...Klein blew it against a subpar Baylor defense
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Manziel
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Miller
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Teo with a decent game should be over Klein.
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