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Old 03-04-2013, 11:37 PM    (permalink
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It's ******* hilarious how bad some of you guys (and these "draft experts") have wanted KC to take an OL in the first round. Christ, doesn't it get old?

Move Albert to G! No? How about Winston? Oh he was good last year? Well uh, why don't they just draft Chance Warmack!

Offensive line is not a need right now and you guys should stop trying to shove it down their throat.
You don't draft for need with the 1st pick of the draft. You take the best player and let things work themselves out. Once you start reaching for need bad things happen.

So who do you think they should draft? Still Geno? Is he the best player in this draft?
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You don't draft for need with the 1st pick of the draft. You take the best player and let things work themselves out. Once you start reaching for need bad things happen.

So who do you think they should draft? Still Geno? Is he the best player in this draft?
What is the point of tagging Albert then? And saying you're still working with his agent on a long term deal? Just let him walk if you're already set on drafting Joeckel #1.

And I wasn't just talking about this year, this has been going on for damn near FIVE YEARS NOW.
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Reaching for need and immediate impact will get you in trouble, that's all I'm saying.
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It's ******* hilarious how bad some of you guys (and these "draft experts") have wanted KC to take an OL in the first round. Christ, doesn't it get old?

Move Albert to G! No? How about Winston? Oh he was good last year? Well uh, why don't they just draft Chance Warmack!

Offensive line is not a need right now and you guys should stop trying to shove it down their throat.
Its a weird discrepancy between pro football focus's OL rankings and football outsider's ranking (who has them as 19th in pass pro and 4th in run blocking). But its hard to wrap your head around I mean would they pay so much for Alex Smith to just draft Geno after? In theory no but maybe they just want to get rid of this problem first at any cost. If they end up with a competent QB its worth the #1 and #34 picks also those QBs are cheap for the next 4 years. (The two of them together end up equaling less than Flacco's new contract outside of year one). But corner is also considered AKA Dee Milliner. He and flowers would be a sexy duo.
How is Star's health thing going? If that's a no go then there isn't a good fit for 3-4 DE at the top of the draft. The offensive tackle is also a remote possibility as well. Brandon Albert is only signed up for 1 year under the franchise tag. Preparing for life after Brandon Albert? Right now the two that makes the most sense are Geno and Milliner pending Star's health report.
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There was some weird explanation for Stars heart condition but I don't remember what it is now.

As for Milliner, I'm not a fan personally but the position is a need, so idk.
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Is there any previous precedent for drafting an OG #1? Has it ever happened?
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What is the point of tagging Albert then? And saying you're still working with his agent on a long term deal? Just let him walk if you're already set on drafting Joeckel #1.

And I wasn't just talking about this year, this has been going on for damn near FIVE YEARS NOW.
The point of tagging Albert is to not let an asset walk for nothing. I would be surprised if they didn't shop him.
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Is there any previous precedent for drafting an OG #1? Has it ever happened?
1961 Ken Rice went #1 overall to the Bills
1939 Ki Aldrich went #1 to the Chicago Cardinals (he was a center but still interior lineman)
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If KC picked Geno #1, could they trade Smith after the season and use him sort of like a rental while Geno develops?
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This draft reminds me Russell Maryland draft. Don't swing to hit a home run. Swing to get to second. Don't come up with nothing.
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if OT was always the pick and we signed Bowe, then what is Alberts value to a LT needy team? is he worth Chicagos 1st? st louis is probably in that mix to. whats he worth?
In this scenario, it seems like they'd be going younger and presumably more talented at LT and winding up with an extra high draft pick, which is not the worst way the Chiefs could go. IknowIknowIknow "you don't trade a veteran player for an unproven rookie," but the top OTs in this class look about as close to "sure things" as there are in the draft, and if the FO doesn't believe in Geno Smith, and there isn't an obvious need on the roster, it makes sense to go younger and cheaper with higher upside at OT (since they're already [nominally] the worst team in the league and will expect to have a rebuilding period anyways), and have another pick at the end of the first or in the second. Maybe it'd just be a second rounder, but we know this class is really deep through the first three rounds and there's going to be talent there. That is, if they trade Albert before the draft.

It's a weird situation to be sure, but if they know they're not going QB it seems most logical for them to free up some cap space and upgrade (albiet slightly) at OT and find a trade parter which will allow them to trade the (albiet slightly) lesser, more expensive player into another young, talented, inexpensive player. This would equal a more talented, less expensive roster and accordingly allows the FO more money, and thus more flexibility, in strengthening the team additionally through free agency.
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Woah, 17 whole TDs and a whopping 3100 yards? That's totally worth two premium draft picks.

Isn't 3100 17/5 the very definition of mediocre in the NFL today?
Since when? Mediocre would be more like 14 TDs 10 INTs. 17 and 5 are very good numbers. I guess these goes against your bash Alex Smith posts you have been putting up recently where you claim he will be average without showing any evidence why.
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If KC picked Geno #1, could they trade Smith after the season and use him sort of like a rental while Geno develops?
Geno is just not a #1 pick. Nothing wrong with that he probably will go top ten but #1 picks are players who you think can be the best player in the draft and Geno is not that
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But the question becomes, who is going to want a particular player SO BAD that they feel they need to pay the price to move all the way up to #1 to get him? It was easier last year when there was someone like RG3 at 2, but without a clear cut top guy this year that's a lot more tricky.
This right here. Geno is not worthy of top 10, and there aren't really any elite prospects.
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Shouldn't have tagged Albert. I would spend that money on Mike Wallace. Draft Fisher at 1 to replace Albert and also sign Andy Levitre to put right next to my rookie.

Bowe and Wallace on the outside. Fisher and Levitre as a great pass blocking left side of the line. Plus Alex Smith. With Reid running the show. This O would be fun fun fun to watch.
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Since when? Mediocre would be more like 14 TDs 10 INTs. 17 and 5 are very good numbers. I guess these goes against your bash Alex Smith posts you have been putting up recently where you claim he will be average without showing any evidence why.
17 touchdowns is like bottom 5-7 in the league kinda stuff for a team. Calling it mediocre is very generous actually.
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You're wrong. Eric Winston was our best offensive lineman last year, according to PFF. Winston doesn't need to be replaced or moved, and neither does Albert.
Hmm, thanks for the correction.

Could have sworn I recently read an article saying don't be surprised if Winston is released due to an underwhelming first year in KC and cited PFF w the grade. Not sure how I mixed that up.
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Since when? Mediocre would be more like 14 TDs 10 INTs. 17 and 5 are very good numbers. I guess these goes against your bash Alex Smith posts you have been putting up recently where you claim he will be average without showing any evidence why.
17&5 are very good numbers for like the first 6 games of the season...

16? I'd say pretty mediocre.

Also take away the best OL in football (though the Chiefs OL is nothing to scoff at), a top 3 defense, and the ability to control the game w a strong rushing attack and you may have some problems with Alex.

I saw a stat today that said something along of the lines of Alex Smith being 0-5 when passing the ball 35+ times. Basically, he's not going to put the team on his back. He can manage it, but not carry it.

Andy Reid threw the ball 35.7 times a game last year.

Let us see...
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17&5 are very good numbers for like the first 6 games of the season...

16? I'd say pretty mediocre.

Also take away the best OL in football (though the Chiefs OL is nothing to scoff at), a top 3 defense, and the ability to control the game w a strong rushing attack and you may have some problems with Alex.

I saw a stat today that said something along of the lines of Alex Smith being 0-5 when passing the ball 35+ times. Basically, he's not going to put the team on his back. He can manage it, but not carry it.

Andy Reid threw the ball 35.7 times a game last year.

Let us see...
That stat is pretty misleading. The only times Alex has had to throw that much is when losing (and losing bad)

Andy Reid passes the ball much more than any offense Alex has played for (remember, the Martz year was JTO and Shaun Hill)

And it's not like the Eagles won a ton of games passing 35.7 times a game last season
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I think KC can find trade partners, it will just be at a discount. If they expect to work a Rams/RG3 deal, I don't see another team giving up those type of picks to move up.

But why wouldn't a team flip flop #1s, and include a 2nd or 3rd in this draft, and maybe a 3rd in 2014??

I definitely could see that happening.

In a draft without any truly elite prospects, it's a buyer's market for teams who want to trade down.
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Offensive line is not a need right now and you guys should stop trying to shove it down their throat.
Even so, it still IS a viable possibility at 1. At this point at least, it is difficult to rule out anything or any position.

I'd at least guess that Reid/Dorsey don't know where they want to go with 1 yet.
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Eric Winston wasnt very good this past season and actually graded out below average, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong but almost certain I recently read that.
He graded out well above average...about the same as Branden Albert, actually. KC has one of the best tackle duos in the entire NFL.

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You don't draft for need with the 1st pick of the draft. You take the best player and let things work themselves out. Once you start reaching for need bad things happen.

So who do you think they should draft? Still Geno? Is he the best player in this draft?
If the lions were picking first and Star were the best player, do you really think they should draft him to sit with that bloated salary behind Suh and Fairley?

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Its a weird discrepancy between pro football focus's OL rankings and football outsider's ranking (who has them as 19th in pass pro and 4th in run blocking). But its hard to wrap your head around I mean would they pay so much for Alex Smith to just draft Geno after? In theory no but maybe they just want to get rid of this problem first at any cost. If they end up with a competent QB its worth the #1 and #34 picks also those QBs are cheap for the next 4 years. (The two of them together end up equaling less than Flacco's new contract outside of year one). But corner is also considered AKA Dee Milliner. He and flowers would be a sexy duo.
How is Star's health thing going? If that's a no go then there isn't a good fit for 3-4 DE at the top of the draft. The offensive tackle is also a remote possibility as well. Brandon Albert is only signed up for 1 year under the franchise tag. Preparing for life after Brandon Albert? Right now the two that makes the most sense are Geno and Milliner pending Star's health report.
Football Outsiders is a turrible site. If you read Football Outsiders, you're gonna have a bad time. They do the stuff people incorrectly accuse PFF of doing.
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I just don't see why any team would trade up with the Chiefs. Geno will likely fall. If a team needs a tackle you have Joeckel and Fisher to choose between. There are a billion pass rushers, so no reason to trade up for one of them.
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Arenas is entering a contract year and they could stand to improve the position anyways so Milliner makes sense. Milliner blends best with ranking, fit and need of the players being discussed.
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Arenas is entering a contract year and they could stand to improve the position anyways so Milliner makes sense. Milliner blends best with ranking, fit and need of the players being discussed.
Milliner makes the most sense to me, too, but I think he ran over Vidae's dog or something.
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