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Old 11-18-2013, 07:01 PM    (permalink
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Crazy I remember when he ran that 4.4 coming out. Always hate to hear this.
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A shame.... that this idiot took the life of an innocent person who was probably following the laws and was not driving 115 MPH.

My prayers are with that 55-year old guy's wife, children, parents, and brothers and sisters.

This is about what Leonard Little did in my eyes.

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The driver of one of the other cars he hit, a 55-year-old man, was also pronounced dead at the scene.

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Wow... I'm at a loss for words. Prayers for both families from me.
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Damn. Life is too damn short
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R.I.P. to both involved.

I will not label him as a "bad person" or a "murderer" just because he was speeding. It's not like anyone here has obeyed every speed limit sign
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A shame.... that this idiot took the life of an innocent person who was probably following the laws and was not driving 115 MPH.

My prayers are with that 55-year old guy's wife, children, parents, and brothers and sisters.

This is about what Leonard Little did in my eyes.
It is a shame that he did that to someone else but it's also a shame that he died. We've all done some dumb stuff.
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:39 PM    (permalink
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R.I.P. to both involved.

I will not label him as a "bad person" or a "murderer" just because he was speeding. It's not like anyone here has obeyed every speed limit sign
No he's a murderer. There's a huge difference between going 57 in a 45 zone and going 110 in a 70 mph zone. While both can be reckless in any situation, the risk associated with the latter is much higher. There is no excuse for traveling that fast.

Prayers to the victim's family and friends.
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I felt bad when I came in....now I just feel bad for the unfortunate person that got dragged in.

No sympathy for Howard from me...you're asking for trouble when going that fast.
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A shame.... that this idiot took the life of an innocent person who was probably following the laws and was not driving 115 MPH.

My prayers are with that 55-year old guy's wife, children, parents, and brothers and sisters.

This is about what Leonard Little did in my eyes.

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Old 11-18-2013, 11:31 PM    (permalink
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he had a couple great years here in oakland, what a shame…could never understand why his career fell apart like it did…now this…RIP
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A shame.... that this idiot took the life of an innocent person who was probably following the laws and was not driving 115 MPH.

My prayers are with that 55-year old guy's wife, children, parents, and brothers and sisters.

This is about what Leonard Little did in my eyes.
well the difference is Leonard Little was basically unharmed. Howard died. And no evidence of DUI either (yet).
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:28 AM    (permalink
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well the difference is Leonard Little was basically unharmed. Howard died. And no evidence of DUI either (yet).
Probably evidence of marijuana, but it doesn't really matter to the shattered family of the innocent 55-year old who was just driving along peacefully on the opposite side of the highway and happened to have this %*#*&%'s car come flying right into him at over 100MPH, ending his life.
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Awful for everyone involved. RIP to all of those who passed away.
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Crazy I remember when he ran that 4.4 coming out. Always hate to hear this.
Yeah, I remember he ran a 4.4 and he posted some nice triangle numbers across the board. He was part of that very solid 2006 LB draft class.

It's stupid to drive that fast, but I'd be a liar if I said I haven't done it. This is such a tragedy.
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Dude must have been intoxicated or otherwise distracted. 100 mph isn't the type of speed that causes one to ram trucks. Either going too fast in thick traffic or completely misjudged on a last second lane change.

Really feel bad for other driver and their family.
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I liked him coming out of college. RIP, I feel sorry for the other driver. No need to be going 100 MPH.
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R.I.P. to both involved.

I will not label him as a "bad person" or a "murderer" just because he was speeding. It's not like anyone here has obeyed every speed limit sign
I won't call him a bad person either but he ended the life of another human being through his own gross negligence. It is one thing to go 75 in a 65, it's entirely another to go 115.
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Thomas Howard did not deserve a thread wishing him anything peaceful. He was a giant POS... Yes, from this incident alone. It's one thing to speed... But this is so negligent and so absurdly reckless that he deserved exactly what he got. To kill someone else? **** em.
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I won't call him a bad person either but he ended the life of another human being through his own gross negligence. It is one thing to go 75 in a 65, it's entirely another to go 115.
Good or bad person, doesn't matter.
He did a horrible thing, with forever-horrific consequences.
The action, by far, outweighs whatever label anyone wants to put on him.

BigBanger, you're spot on there.
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