Detroit Tigers discussion... - Page 4

Xiomera · 04-09-2007, 06:51 PM

Sheffield has been completely unimpressive thus far.

And I think it's time to give Infante a start at 3B . . . Inge is killing us.

ironman4579 · 04-09-2007, 07:04 PM

I;m not much of a fan of Infante. I agree with you Inge has been a black hole so far at the bottom of the order. But he's also far superior defensively at third to Infante. And IMO, with our staff mostly not being huge K guys, and stocked with lefties, Inge's defense is tremendously important at third. I'm still confident Inge will turn it around and end up around 20+ HR's. And with the Gold Glove caliber D he plays, I'd be happy with that. However, if he hasn't truned it around by the end of the month(at least over .200) then yes, I'd certainly say give Infante, a shot. Hell, I'd give Kody Kirkland a shot if it gets to that point.

Xiomera · 04-09-2007, 07:24 PM

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I;m not much of a fan of Infante. I agree with you Inge has been a black hole so far at the bottom of the order. But he's also far superior defensively at third to Infante. And IMO, with our staff mostly not being huge K guys, and stocked with lefties, Inge's defense is tremendously important at third. I'm still confident Inge will turn it around and end up around 20+ HR's. And with the Gold Glove caliber D he plays, I'd be happy with that. However, if he hasn't truned it around by the end of the month(at least over .200) then yes, I'd certainly say give Infante, a shot. Hell, I'd give Kody Kirkland a shot if it gets to that point.

Well obviously Inge is a great defensive 3B and he will turn it around, I just think Leyland needs to use his bench more (namely Infante) and perhaps light a fire under Inge to do something. It's been 6 games without a hit!

ironman4579 · 04-09-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiomera

Well obviously Inge is a great defensive 3B and he will turn it around, I just think Leyland needs to use his bench more (namely Infante) and perhaps light a fire under Inge to do something. It's been 6 games without a hit!

I'm with you there, and I agree about using the bench. I hated the way Tram used to do it, where he'd sit ALL of our regulars on the same day, and it was like every third game you'd see like Pudge, Guillen, and like Ordonez on the bench, but I wish Leyland would use the bench a little more often too.

Xiomera · 04-09-2007, 09:10 PM

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I'm with you there, and I agree about using the bench. I hated the way Tram used to do it, where he'd sit ALL of our regulars on the same day, and it was like every third game you'd see like Pudge, Guillen, and like Ordonez on the bench, but I wish Leyland would use the bench a little more often too.

Oh God, I know what you mean with Trammel. We might as well have forfeited those days.

ironman4579 · 04-09-2007, 09:52 PM

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Oh God, I know what you mean with Trammel. We might as well have forfeited those days.

That's what I always thought. You know, I supported Tram most of the time, and I still believe he should be in the HOF. But he used to kill me with his day off schedule for the regulars and the way he used the bullpen. But I have to give it to him, he and Bob Cluck actually did predict that 2006 would be the year the staff really came together and started winning games for this team, and they were right. But still, I'm extremely happy with Leyland.

asmitty45 · 04-09-2007, 11:35 PM

Leyland def needs to go to the bench more, especially for Inge, but its onyl 6 games in so i can understand him trying to get his starters some sort of rythym to begin the season, obviously Inge didnt get the memo.

And what the hell was the Dud by Durbin today? Where's Miner/Ledezma/Miller? we have so many quality pitchers to fill rogers' spot but for some reason we gave this bum a shot. I say ledezma should get the next start and if he fails it may be time to give Miller a shot.

ThEvIcTR · 04-10-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Xiomera

Sheffield has been completely unimpressive thus far.

And I think it's time to give Infante a start at 3B . . . Inge is killing us.

You can't be serious.

IT IS APRIL!

Lets look at what Inge did in 2005 and we will really see if you would rather start infante (Which is such a terrible thing to even think of.)

Lead all American League third basmen in these categories.

Assists: 378
Double Plays: 41
Errors: 23

His hitting needs improvement but there is no way we can take him off the 3 bag.

Xiomera · 04-10-2007, 07:41 AM

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You can't be serious.

IT IS APRIL!

Lets look at what Inge did in 2005 and we will really see if you would rather start infante (Which is such a terrible thing to even think of.)

Lead all American League third basmen in these categories.

Assists: 378
Double Plays: 41
Errors: 23

His hitting needs improvement but there is no way we can take him off the 3 bag.

Clearly you haven't read much of this thread . . .

I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT INGE BE BENCHED IN FAVOR OF INFANTE. I WANT LEYLAND TO START INFANTE AT THIRD FOR ONE GAME.

ironman4579 · 04-10-2007, 10:19 AM

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Leyland def needs to go to the bench more, especially for Inge, but its onyl 6 games in so i can understand him trying to get his starters some sort of rythym to begin the season, obviously Inge didnt get the memo.

And what the hell was the Dud by Durbin today? Where's Miner/Ledezma/Miller? we have so many quality pitchers to fill rogers' spot but for some reason we gave this bum a shot. I say ledezma should get the next start and if he fails it may be time to give Miller a shot.

Miller has pitched one minor league game that lasted 5 innings. You want to risk ruining his development based on 1, or possibly 2 starts by Durbin or Ledezma? Give the kid some time, let him learn in the minors for at least a season with a possible late season call up. When he was drafted, it was widely acknowledged that he had a lot of work to do on his change up. Sounds very similiar to Jeremy Bonderman. Now, I love Bonderman, but I would wager that had he spent another year or two in the minors refining that change up against weaker hitters instead of trying to learn it at the major league level, he'd be dominating right now, rather than simply looking to have his "breakout year" We have other young pitchers at this point that can fill in, ie Tata, Jurrjens, etc. Plus, IT'S ONE START! Can we wait until after the first freaking week of the season before we start panicking? Let Durbin have a couple starts. Hell, Miner looked lights out when he first came up, and then the league caught up with him. For all we know, Durbin will settle down, and do well. Give the guy a chance.

Xiomera · 04-10-2007, 09:29 PM

Tigers were lucky to win this one. If not for that error on Roberts . . . hmm

ironman4579 · 04-10-2007, 09:34 PM

Nate Rob pitched a really good game though, and Grandy and Polanco keep rolling. Guillen's starting to come around as well. Pudge wasn't great tonight, but he's been solid. Everyone else has been pretty much "meh" or worse. As you said before X, Sheffield hasn't done a thing so far.

Brodeur · 04-10-2007, 10:25 PM

Neifi Perez hits- 1
Brandon Inge hits- 0

Such a wonderful thing to know. I'm sure Inge will come around I just like pointing that out.

Notredameleo · 04-11-2007, 06:40 AM

Chances that Grandy makes all star game? And a wins a win!!

Xiomera · 04-11-2007, 06:58 AM

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Chances that Grandy makes all star game? And a wins a win!!

Leyland is the AL All-Star Manager, so you can expect a lot of Tigers in the game . . . I'm thinking Polanco, Granderson, Bonderman, and Nate Robertson as a surprise pick?

ironman4579 · 04-11-2007, 09:34 AM

And yet shockingly, we're all still here and the world hasn't ended despite the existence of this thread...................................weird.

ironman4579 · 04-11-2007, 09:36 AM

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Leyland is the AL All-Star Manager, so you can expect a lot of Tigers in the game . . . I'm thinking Polanco, Granderson, Bonderman, and Nate Robertson as a surprise pick?

I'm thinking by All Star time he'll reasonably be able to take Granderson, Guillen, Bonderman, and possibly Nate. If not Nate, then possibly Verlander, since he kind of got shafted(a little) last season.

Scotty D · 04-11-2007, 11:50 AM

Grandy and Grady will battle it out for the All Star Game. Although I think positions aren't taken into account for the All Star Game.

ironman4579 · 04-11-2007, 12:07 PM

Unfortunately, they aren't. And I'm pretty much banking that Granderson doesn't get near enough votes to be voted on. IMO Granderson will have to be a managers selection to get on. Most fans are casual fans, and just vote for the names they know, which is why every year you see Suzuki, Ramirez, and Vlad as the starters. Also the reason you always see a bunch of Yankees and Red Sox, because that's who ESPN covers the most, thus the names people hear the most. Not to say those teams don't have great players however. There's a reason they always do well after all. The overall point being a player has to get his name out there and well known to be voted on. Sizemore is a well known player at this point IMO, which gives him a leg up. Despite playing on a World Series team, I don't believe Granderson is thought of yet as a top young player. After this year, I believe he will be though.

Scotty D · 04-11-2007, 09:53 PM

Craig with the grand slam! :)

04-11-2007, 10:03 PM

Tigers offense has been really dissapointing this year. Brandon Inge cant even put the ball in play. I much prefer Inge in the role of utility guy who can play every position for you. I honestly think last years power numbers were a fluke and hell never finish near 30 hr again in his career

Xiomera · 04-11-2007, 10:21 PM

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Tigers offense has been really dissapointing this year. Brandon Inge cant even put the ball in play. I much prefer Inge in the role of utility guy who can play every position for you. I honestly think last years power numbers were a fluke and hell never finish near 30 hr again in his career

Agreed on Inge. I never like the idea of locking him in as our third baseman of the future by signing him to that big extention.

On a side note, you wanna make a trade Icon?

04-11-2007, 10:27 PM

Ya, shoot one over

Scotty D · 04-11-2007, 10:27 PM

Borquin is on his way. :)

JPLUFF · 04-12-2007, 07:23 PM

Brandon Inge got another hit