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Old 11-12-2013, 12:26 AM    (permalink
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Default What is Nick Foles trade value?

Chip Kelly still doesn't want to name a starter. I think for his full offense he would like a running QB like Vick.

So if they wanted to trade Nick Foles what would his value be? A 1st rounder? A 1st and a 3rd?
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If he sits Foles for Vick he should be fired.
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A 3rd Rounder at best. Some crazy team might be willing to throw 2 seconds at Philly(they have a history of getting paid for their backups). But he's only truly performed in like... three games.

Let's not Anoint him.
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1st and 2nd rounders for him would be imbecilic.

A 3rd would be ok
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Michael Vick is a free agent at the end of this season and will be 34 next year. Nick Foles has two years left on his deal and will be 25 next year.
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Here is this fun topic that has taken over the official Eagles forums. For starters Nick Foles can run a Chip Kelly offense. Being mobile is only a plus but what Chip wants is a Qb that can get to the line, diagnose the defense, know the progression and not turn the ball over. I mean Chip Kelly drafted Matt Barkley last year and he is not much faster, weaker armed and shorter then Foles.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/20...-matt-barkley/

There is 2 reasons that Foles has not been named the starter for the rest of the year . For one Barkley is not even a threat to start and Vick is hurt. There is no need to name him a starter full time right now. Now if Vick was healthy Foles would still be starting over him but he would have to deal with the situation differently.

Second on October 20th of this year Foles turned in a stinker of a performance against the Cowboys. Only 80 yards passing and a qb rating around 40. Now some say he was concussed earlier in the game or was hurt who knows but its still a horrid performance and to be a full time starter in this league you cant have that. If that game was a 21 for 30 performance with 280 yards 2 tds one int and a close loss or even a win it would be totally differnt.

If Foles keeps playing good and leads the Eagles to wins down the stretch and possibly into the playoffs there is no way that they will trade him away. this talk is stupid about him not fitting the system. Ask the Bucs Raiders and Packers about him not fitting the system.

He is not also Kolb 2.0 either, that bum WAS a system Qb with a weak arm. And even with that stinker of a game against Dallas Foles this year has yet to throw an int, has one turnover a fumble and 16 touchdowns. That is more then just a fluke. I am not saying he is Tom Brady 2.0 or even close to that but he has to be seriously looked at and if in his next 6 starts he is good he is staying in Philly.
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Nick Foles has the potential to be a franchise caliber quarterback in the Matt Ryan / Joe Flacco / Eli Manning / Matt Schaub pantheon, at the very least.

Why would you trade away a franchise quarterback? Is Chip Kelly that stupid that he would trade away a valuable commodity like that just because it doesn't "fit his system" perfectly? I don't think so.

I'm sure Kelly likes running QBs in college, but if he's at all intelligent he will adapt his offense to whatever *wins* and produces *touchdowns* in the NFL, which clearly is happening with Foles at the helm.
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So... Matt Schaub was traded for two 2nd round picks after starting two games and being horrendous in half of those. Kevin Kolb was traded for DRC and a 2nd after starting a total 7 games and being quite average. Matt Cassel was pretty good in 2008, but his playing also got the Patriots passing offense to go from historically good to just about average. Cassel was soon traded for the 34th overall pick. An aging Carson Palmer who hadn't been much of anything better than average for 4 years was traded for a first and a second.

And you're all telling me Nick Foles' current value is a 3rd round pick? Please.

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Ok Foles played fairly well this week, but two of his TD passes came on awful throws. The one to Desean was underthrown into double coverage and should have been picked off. The one to Cooper was off target and underthrown. If not for a great adjustment by Cooper that one falls harmlessly at the 2 yard line.
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Foles' value is a first and a conditional midround pick. He's a quarterback... Trent Richardson yielded a 1st... it is what it is. The Eagles would become the dumbest organization in professional sports to dump him for Vick.
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Need to see how Foles does against some better defenses before making any decision on his future there. I've said before that Kelley would probably make an attempt to grab a Marcus Mariota if he were available but i doubt he'd pay a huge price to do it. For now Foles is worth more to them to keep than what they could get for him.
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Ain't no system QB who throws for 7TDs and no picks in a single game. Or 13 TDs and 0 INTs in limited playing time this season.

Foles is worth at least a 2nd rounder and a combo of additional picks right now.

By the end of the season he could be worth a 1st, a 2nd rounder and maybe more.

I hope the Eagles trade Foles.lolol.

That would be so Philly,
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Philly would be stupid to trade him, they should let Vick walk after the season. Foles hasn't even played a full season - let him develop.
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A first or some combination of multiple seconds and thirds. Didn't Schaub go for 2 second rounders?

I don't see any argument for trading him, though - he's not a pending FA, he's cheap, he's young and has flashed the potential to be a starter. I don't see how going back to the draft for a completely unknown quantity could be more appealing than developing Foles given the progress he has made already.
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They would be stupid, they will let Vick go and they will let him develope so you're 3 for 3 there.

I know there has been this trend lately to get QBs that can run but last i looked it's still Brady, Brees and Manning at the top of the league so get someone that can read defenses first.
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Who's the best QB so far from the 2012 draft???

Lately I've been leaning towards Russell Wilson followed closely behind by Luck.

After seeing Nick Foles handle his business the 2nd half of the season and on the verge of winning the NFCE throwing for 25 TDs and 2 INTs, I could easily see Foles being the elite player from this class.

Did the spread he played in at Arizona really negatively affect his draft evaluation that much??
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Who's the best QB so far from the 2012 draft???

Lately I've been leaning towards Russell Wilson followed closely behind by Luck.
1a. Andrew Luck
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3. Nick Foles
4. Robert Griffin III
5. Ryan Tannehill
6. Kirk Cousins
7. Brock Osweiler
8. Chandler Harnish
9. B.J. Coleman

9001. Brandon Weeden
∞. Ryan Lindley
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1a. Andrew Luck
1b. Russell Wilson
3. Nick Foles
4. Robert Griffin III
5. Ryan Tannehill
6. Kirk Cousins
7. Brock Osweiler
8. Chandler Harnish
9. B.J. Coleman

9001. Brandon Weeden
∞. Ryan Lindley
We're still pretending that Luck is better than Wilson and Foles?
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He sure tried to keep Vick as the starting QB but Foles pretty much played his way into the job.

I doubt it's even an issue but you could probably get a first round pick for Foles. I don't think Foles is ever going to be elite because of his game when under pressure but he's definitely #3 in that group right now.

For me It's clearly Luck then Wilson and Foles.
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We're still pretending that Luck is better than Wilson and Foles?
+1.

None of these guys is playing better than Foles IMO.

Guess Foles is gonna have to win a playoff game to get his proper run around here.

Luck is missing pieces around him, but he's not really playing great football.
Certainly not on the level of Foles/Wilson.
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Luck is doing more with less every week. Foles has played amazingly well but also has a ton of weapons around him at his disposal. Has Philly found a franchise QB? Not trying to knock Foles as he has proved he is a very good QB and franchise type QB.

Wilson has plenty of weapons on offense, one of the best running backs in the game and a top 3 defense. People NEVER bring that up when talking about Wilson.

Luck has led his team to back to back winning seasons and playoff berths. He does it week in and week out with mediocre running back play, no number 1 WR and an up and down offense. Statistically he isn't the best looking QB of the bunch but I really could not see either Foles or Wilson having the same impact with the Colts that Luck has.
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