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Old 01-17-2013, 02:16 PM    (permalink
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So.. what am I missing here?

He allegedly met her in person at a Stanford game? Why is skype or webcams relevant? If he met her in person he should know exactly what she looks like and who she is.

I have read that his dad said, she had flown out to Hawaii? Other players have met her? MT went to visit her in the hospital as she was fighting cancer? Ok.. I work in a hospital. Someone can not just show up to a hospital, and take up a bed, just go dupe some poor sap.

I like the Irish somewhat, but this to me sounds like a fraudulent conman who got busted. He either had friends or family involved. Or he had a relationship, that failed, and he made a bunch of lies up to run with this story.

There is no other way around it, just based off of his word and his friend and families words. It doesn't make sense. Nothing people do surprise me now days though.
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So.. what am I missing here?

He allegedly met her in person at a Stanford game? Why is skype or webcams relevant? If he met her in person he should know exactly what she looks like and who she is.

I have read that his dad said, she had flown out to Hawaii? Other players have met her? MT went to visit her in the hospital as she was fighting cancer? Ok.. I work in a hospital. Someone can not just show up to a hospital, and take up a bed, just go dupe some poor sap.

I like the Irish somewhat, but this to me sounds like a fraudulent conman who got busted. He either had friends or family involved. Or he had a relationship, that failed, and he made a bunch of lies up to run with this story.

There is no other way around it, just based off of his word and his friend and families words. It doesn't make sense. Nothing people do surprise me now days though.
"Met her after the Stanford Game" has become a relative thing seeing as he claims he met her online after the Stanford Game. She apparently never showed up in Hawaii when she was supposed to (via Swabrick). No teammates saw her, he isn't documented as visiting her in the hospital.


That's why the Skype, webcam, etc. are relevant.

Teammates have heard him on the phone with a female multiple times, did he just put on an act? (Via ESPN Radio)


My guess is it isn't 100%. I feel like Te'o WAS tricked at some point, maybe he figured it out in August or September and wanted to make it go away for good thinking killing Lennay off was the way to do it? I don't know, still super weird
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I highly doubt this will have a major draft stock effect. Do they have concerns and questions? I'm sure, but Mike Freeman from CBS:

"NFL scout on Manti Catfish: "Won't hurt draft stock. We draft guys that rob banks." So, there's that."
I stand corrected. "We draft guys that rob banks" is the best draft quote I've seen.
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Can someone find me a direct quote that he said he met her in person?

Didn't think so......
Sorry, but this one won't end well for you.

Assuming that you're right and the meeting at Stanford can't be attributed directly to Manti (b/c SI is out to get him, right? ) then there's still the fun little tidbits where he claims to have fallen asleep on the phone with her in the hospital, and the flowers, and the trips she took to Hawaii.

When everybody seems to be backpeddling it's generally because they're all trying to avoid getting caught in their lies.

Even the articles sited from the South Bend Tribune have inexplicably vanished. This one doesn't even require a tin-foil hat. It's pretty clear where things will go over the next few days.
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"Met her after the Stanford Game" has become a relative thing seeing as he claims he met her online after the Stanford Game. She apparently never showed up in Hawaii when she was supposed to (link to that story earlier in this thread). No teammates saw her, he isn't documented as visiting her in the hospital.


That's why the Skype, webcam, etc. are relevant.

Teammates have heard him on the phone with a female multiple times, did he just put on an act? (Via ESPN Radio)


My guess is it isn't 100%. I feel like Te'o WAS tricked at some point, maybe he figured it out in August or September and wanted to make it go away for good thinking killing Lennay off was the way to do it? I don't know, still super weird
Ok.. I am on page 13 atm. So I am not full caught up. That doesnt explain the former cardinals fb stating that he met her though.
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Ok.. I am on page 13 atm. So I am not full caught up. That doesnt explain the former cardinals fb stating that he met her though.
He met her through Ronaiah before Manti had ever "met" her.
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So.. what am I missing here?

He allegedly met her in person at a Stanford game? Why is skype or webcams relevant? If he met her in person he should know exactly what she looks like and who she is.

I have read that his dad said, she had flown out to Hawaii? Other players have met her? MT went to visit her in the hospital as she was fighting cancer? Ok.. I work in a hospital. Someone can not just show up to a hospital, and take up a bed, just go dupe some poor sap.

I like the Irish somewhat, but this to me sounds like a fraudulent conman who got busted. He either had friends or family involved. Or he had a relationship, that failed, and he made a bunch of lies up to run with this story.

There is no other way around it, just based off of his word and his friend and families words. It doesn't make sense. Nothing people do surprise me now days though.
No, she ws never in the hospital. And he never visited her. Or went to her funeral. He now says he never met her in person, although he seems to have implied he did before.

As another poster pointed out, he called her hospital bed...I guess he'll say now that it was a direct number, whatever. If he called the switchboard, they'd tell him she wasn't there. He'll just keep ducking and weaving.

3 year "relationship", where he never met the girl. Not once. Saw her picture (and the picture was of a friend of his friend Reniah Tuiasasopo) and that's it. As the love of his life lay dying tragically, he never visited.
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"Met her after the Stanford Game" has become a relative thing seeing as he claims he met her online after the Stanford Game. She apparently never showed up in Hawaii when she was supposed to (via Swabrick). No teammates saw her, he isn't documented as visiting her in the hospital.


That's why the Skype, webcam, etc. are relevant.

Teammates have heard him on the phone with a female multiple times, did he just put on an act? (Via ESPN Radio)


My guess is it isn't 100%. I feel like Te'o WAS tricked at some point, maybe he figured it out in August or September and wanted to make it go away for good thinking killing Lennay off was the way to do it? I don't know, still super weird
SO instead of just dropping it or saying "we broke up", he makes a national story about the love of his life dying tragically from cancer? And then how brave he was to go on?
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SO instead of just dropping it or saying "we broke up", he makes a national story about the love of his life dying tragically from cancer? And then how brave he was to go on?
I don't know, maybe. That's what I don't understand and why he may have just been duped all along. No upside to making this a big spectacle and situation. Maybe he told Ronaiah (or whoever,) to get rid of it and they put it out there? I want to do some investigating and see what the earliest story of her death was or where it came from.
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It is someones who reregistered the account yesterday, lol. Guess they were going for a joke a bunch of people already made?
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There are no pictures of Te'o with this person, the photos of her are of another girl, there is no record of her death, her enrollment at Stanford, and when asked by an ESPN reporter for Te'o to provide photos of Kekua Te'o said the family would prefer not to, and he said that his brother told him of her death and then later said that it was Kekua's brother, plus he posted on twitter that her sister is one of the most "realist" people he knows. And no Facebook or Skype? It would be really hard to believe that Manti was this dumb to only know this person via phone and a photo still. It's more plausible to believe that Manti was in on the charade.

There is way too much inconsistent information. It's going to be hard for Te'o to come out of this looking like a complete victim. And I don't believe that Arizona fullback at all.
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I don't know, maybe. That's what I don't understand and why he may have just been duped all along. No upside to making this a big spectacle and situation. Maybe he told Ronaiah (or whoever,) to get rid of it and they put it out there? I want to do some investigating and see what the earliest story of her death was or where it came from.
Well according to him he spoke to her in the hospital for 8 hours at a time, etc. etc. Sent flowers to her funeral, which didn't exist. So some scammer stayed up 8 hours a night with him? To what end?

I think she was a beard and he milked her 'death' to get attention/create a narrative for a Heismann. He's lucky he didn't win, if he had won and this 'I played even though the love of my life (who he now says he never actually met) just DIED' was perceived to have aided him, he'd never live it down.
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......I smell ******** with this entire story. Te'o is guilty. Anything else is just excuses to help make him look better because its difficult for people to believe. If it were true, then the families that showed him so much support would be on every news show right now defending Te'o. Plus, him staying with the team and not flying to be with his or her family after the game is just too convenient. Its all just being spun right now and people are being bought off.

/case solved.
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