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Old 06-07-2013, 11:34 AM    (permalink
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I love how you don't even pretend to not be Thumper anymore either. What happened to never coming back here Thumper?
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:40 AM    (permalink
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I used to care about making good posts. But after awhile you realize it's pointless and you stop.

Cudders will eventually either stop posting here or fall into the same situation. You can't do it forever, it's taxing on the brain. Especially when guys like Thumper exist.
I never posted as intensely and thoroughly as you guys did (or in cudders case still do), but even I used to at least try to help people understand what they were missing. Now I just laugh when they continually refuse to understand the inherent flaw to what they're arguing. I'm not gunna change his mind, in Thumpers mind anything taht supports his argument is true, and anything that opposes it is false, even when the same logic is applied to each side. What is anyone gunna do about that? That's why I'll still go into depth in threads where I now morons won't hijack them and that the only people reading them are people interested in knowing more about what I know about or sharing their own knowledge on the subject, thus the soccer thread being the only one I still go into depth in. Ain't nobody on this board cares enough about soccer to put this much effort into trying to prove a silly argument correct.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:43 AM    (permalink
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PS thumper it's not that fake a quote when it's the logical conclusion of your own arguments. Your refusal to apply the same criteria to JPP as you do others doesn't actually change the logic in reality, it just changes the logic inside of your own head.
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Well this thread is awesome.
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This thread is why I stick to Giants forum and Off Topic pretty much.
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Ohhhhhhhhh AcheTen = Thumper. Ok.

So Brandon Graham is the new Kevin Kolb, then.
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it's hilarious that cudders' sample size can easily be skewed but Graham being a situational rusher can't be.
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it's hilarious that cudders' sample size can easily be skewed but Graham being a situational rusher can't be.
One half of football = roughly 20 defensive snaps. %50 of those on average are spent rushing the passer, so we are looking at a sample size of around 8-12 or so snaps to judge blocking schemes during Pierre Paul's pass rush in Cudders' sample size.

Graham's 2012 season = 421 defensive snaps. Even if you throw out the roughly 50% that are not spent rushing the passer, you still have a decent sample size. And he was not just a 3rd down rusher - in Philly's system they rotated first string and second string lines regardless of down and distance.


So what's really hilarious here is that "scottyboy" clearly failed basic arithmetic in school if he can't understand the difference between a sample size of 8-12 snaps and a sample size of 200+ snaps.
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PS thumper it's not that fake a quote when it's the logical conclusion of your own arguments. Your refusal to apply the same criteria to JPP as you do others doesn't actually change the logic in reality, it just changes the logic inside of your own head.
There's no logic when you ignore the whole point of the argument, which is that Graham is a more talented player because he's more efficient and produced 90% of what Pierre Paul produced but in HALF the snaps.
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One half of football = roughly 20 defensive snaps. %50 of those on average are spent rushing the passer, so we are looking at a sample size of around 8-12 or so snaps to judge blocking schemes during Pierre Paul's pass rush in Cudders' sample size.

Graham's 2012 season = 421 defensive snaps. Even if you throw out the roughly 50% that are not spent rushing the passer, you still have a decent sample size. And he was not just a 3rd down rusher - in Philly's system they rotated first string and second string lines regardless of down and distance.


So what's really hilarious here is that "scottyboy" clearly failed basic arithmetic in school if he can't understand the difference between a sample size of 8-12 snaps and a sample size of 200+ snaps.
GUYS LOOK I'M GONNA BRING UP THE EAGLES SCHEME AND ROTATIONS BUT IGNORE EVERY SINGLE THING SAID ABOUT THE GIANTS BECAUSE "There's no proof". Because thumper.

I like how you're now just throwing out arbitrary numbers. It's actually adorable. This whole argument you've created is adorable. Precious.
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This has already happened, and has been the case for a few seasons now. I hardly even get into it with people anymore because its largely just not worth it. I used to enjoy the arguments I got into on here when I first started posting. Now, not worth the time.
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GUYS LOOK I'M GONNA BRING UP THE EAGLES SCHEME AND ROTATIONS BUT IGNORE EVERY SINGLE THING SAID ABOUT THE GIANTS BECAUSE "There's no proof". Because thumper.

I like how you're now just throwing out arbitrary numbers. It's actually adorable. This whole argument you've created is adorable. Precious.
Because carefully measured snap counts (the first year the NFL officially recorded and released them to the public) are "arbitrary numbers".

Hahaha. Now you're just desperate and can't come up with even a remotely intelligent retort.

I love making ignorant people resort to shouting and name-calling. Now why don't you just go sit in the corner and play with the other kids, mmkay?
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Key words highlighted.

This is the guy who shouted "Na na na na I can't hear you!" the entire time he was talking on here about Graham and Pierre Paul.

And then he decided just to give up and start making up fake quotes in his sig.
rofl, and you're doing the same thing. congratulations
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This made me lol.
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so, the worst posters have a confined area to themselves? what's wrong with that?
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Speaking of disappointing Browns fans:

Jets offered Kellen Winslow a tryout at mini-camp.

Unless his knee(s?) are completely shot, he's gotta be better than anything they currently have, right?
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/93...-goal-50-sacks

Maybe not 50, but he is going to be an All-Pro this year.
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Julius Thomas, TE for the Broncos was drafted as a low risk high reward type project. He has dealt with injuries since being drafted thus never having a offseason to develop and learn.


He has alway shown flashes while healthy, but this is the 1st time he isnt really rehabbing and I'm hoping he can stay healthy.


Because he has all the athletic ability in the world, and could provide a huge target to Manning.


All reports are that he is really blossoming and showing great ability.
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More weapons for Manning? Sure, why not.

P.S. - Really liked Julius coming out.
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