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Old 07-31-2013, 05:21 PM    (permalink
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I've survived three decades without being called a cracker, and without hearing somebody else called a cracker. Is that actually a term that people even use?
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:22 PM    (permalink
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I've survived three decades without being called a cracker. Is that actually a term that people even use?
No, people just bring it up every once in a while because they want to be able to say ******.
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:26 PM    (permalink
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I've been called a cracker, but I'm typically not offended by people calling me middle class and white.
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:27 PM    (permalink
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Can we pretend that the comment never happened? I think we're all better off that way.
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:30 PM    (permalink
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Agreed. My favorite part of Vikings TC yesterday was watching Jeff Locke shag balls. Is there anymore looked-down-upon position in sports than rookie punter?
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:39 PM    (permalink
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So will the new Dolphins uniforms be approved this Sunday?
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I've been called a cracker 1-2 times.

Both during sports.

I can't say I had a reaction other than laughing.
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Anyone who's making a twitterfuss about him saying "******" is being ******* childish. Just reminds me of the little girl who told on me for saying "weenie" one day in the end-of-the-recess line in second grade after a kid from another class and I started insulting each other's with body parts.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:28 PM    (permalink
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So theres no way jim brown can be taken over as the best RB of all time ever? Unless we find a RB that is 6-6 340 pounds of lean muscle and runs a 4.4 there is no way a RB is going to dwarf and outrun 90% of all defensive players like brown did then. He was a special talent in that he was so big, strong, and fast back then but he was a man among boys in that era. Honestly brown running against pro defenses back then would be like peterson running against JUCO defenses now

people get so locked into players being the best of all time they close the door on anyone ever overtaking them
You missed my point in every way possible.
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Also, I'm just gonna leave this here:

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Old 07-31-2013, 07:36 PM    (permalink
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Are you one of the people who thought this was a debate worth discussing?

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Old 07-31-2013, 08:04 PM    (permalink
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On the other hand, midget babies were often left by the mothers to die or ended up in sideshows. So how about we just don't turn things people can't help about themselves into insults and stop politicizing words?
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On the other hand, midget babies were often left by the mothers to die or ended up in sideshows. So how about we just don't turn things people can't help about themselves into insults and stop politicizing words?
Ding ding ding we have a winner
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WTF did he have on? A button up flannel shirt with no sleeves?




None the less, this is certainly something I can't remember happening and you have to wonder what people in the locker room will be thinking.
The shirt is his biggest offense.

Using some slur will mean nothing to his teammates if they think he's a good guy.
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You missed my point in every way possible.
when it all boils down you point was it was a stupid thing to ever discuss and it should never be brought up. Why have debates or a message board when you have all the concrete answers?

You can judge based on era, but the best of all time is always going to brought up, just cause you say not to debate doesnt mean its going to stop.
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Anyone who's making a twitterfuss about him saying "******" is being ******* childish. Just reminds me of the little girl who told on me for saying "weenie" one day in the end-of-the-recess line in second grade after a kid from another class and I started insulting each other's with body parts.
I didn't take any offense from what Riley Cooper said (it was hilarious), but at the same time I don't think you should be telling people what they should and shouldn't be getting offended by. Someone shouting a racial slur could justifiably cause certain people to be offended. And expecting people to not get in a fuss over it is like expecting the rain to stop being wet. It's the NFL and Riley Cooper is a football player. It's not as if no one cares about what players do until a white guy says "******".
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i know a lot of people that were at that concert....classic
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I didn't take any offense from what Riley Cooper said (it was hilarious), but at the same time I don't think you should be telling people what they should and shouldn't be getting offended by. Someone shouting a racial slur could justifiably cause certain people to be offended. And expecting people to not get in a fuss over it is like expecting the rain to stop being wet. It's the NFL and Riley Cooper is a football player. It's not as if no one cares about what players do until a white guy says "******".
I started typing into a rep comment to you and accidentally hit "enter," so I'll just continue here - I'm just trying to say I think everyone makes it worse by putting it through the media cycle and debating over "what word is worse," etc. Yes, it was offensive. He said it because he was mad - I mean, he might as well have said, "I'll fight every mother-****er in there," and conveyed basically the same thing - aggression, hostility, anger, hate, etc. The guy he was yelling at was black, Cooper was drunk, so... "The n-word" is what he called him. It just makes me mad how people wring their hands about the specific word, when it was really just Cooper being a drunk asshole. What it leads to is Cooper being made to stand in front of the camera for 6 minutes saying, "I'm sorry I used the "n-word," like a he's little kid and not, "I'd been drinking and I was a bit out of control in that moment," like a grown man.

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Anything dealing with race is so one sided. I am sure Cooper was taunted many times during his playing days in the SEC - being called white boy, cracker etc.

It was a dumb thing to say but lets not pretend a huge double standard does not exist in this country.

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I started typing into a rep comment to you and accidentally hit "enter," so I'll just continue here - I'm just trying to say I think everyone makes it worse by putting it through the media cycle and debating over "what word is worse," etc. Yes, it was offensive. He said it because he was mad - I mean, he might as well have said, "I'll fight every mother-****er in there," and conveyed basically the same thing - aggression, hostility, anger, hate, etc. The guy he was yelling at was black, Cooper was drunk, so... "The n-word" is what he called him. It just makes me mad how people wring their hands about the specific word, when it was really just Cooper being a drunk asshole. What it leads to is Cooper being made to stand in front of the camera for 6 minutes saying, "I'm sorry I used the "n-word," like a he's little kid and not, "I'd been drinking and I was a bit out of control in that moment," like a grown man.
Like a grown man? Lol. A grown man should be taking responsibility for his actions, not blaming alcohol. And why would he say that anyway? No one cares that he was drunk, that isn't what was offensive. Saying "******" was the offensive part, hence him apologizing about it...

Again, you're telling people what they should and shouldn't be offended by. I didn't even know he was shouting it at a black guy. Shouting "******" at a black person is not the same as shouting "mother-******" and it's ridiculous that you're trying to make out that it is.

So, just to be clear, you're justifying people shouting racial slurs if they're drunk and you're mad at people for being offended by the use of the word "******". That's just ******* stupid.
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As a drunk, I'm offended that people think alcohol turns you into an asshole.
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I don't see this as news. An unfortunate incident? Sure. A terrible choice by a young man? Absolutely. His actions are unacceptable. He has to live with the consequences to his reputation and trying to repair his relationships with his teammates.

I would much rather we pay attention to things that matter with the NFL, like pension issues for retirees, concussion-related items, and the quality of the game. A slip-up by a drunk idiot should not be our focus on any day.
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I would much rather we pay attention to things that matter with the NFL, like pension issues for retirees, concussion-related items, and the quality of the game. A slip-up by a drunk idiot should not be our focus on any day.
The media, whether it's sports or news, don't like to have serious discussions about the important, unpopular topics because it takes work and people would actually have to be more informed about the true issues as opposed to being ignorant and focusing on day-to-day "news" such as this.
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Then we should do ourselves a big favor and stop reading articles about Tebow and Riley Cooper's drunken mistake. The media is looking for eyeballs, not news, which is a damn shame. This is sensationalism.
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