2013 Up-to-Date Cap Space - Page 9

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamcanadian

That is what the NFL would like everyone to believe, however, revenue sharing is only part of a team's overall revenue, it helps somewhat but doesn't really make teams revenue equal. Big city teams often have twice the overall revenue of small market teams which is why teams like Cincy and Buffalo among others are consistently way under the cap. Their owners get blamed for being cheap but often there is more to it than that.
Sometimes a new stadium will help as in Arizona's case but for the most part only a great management team can overcome the revenue differences.

No. Stop it. Cinci is consistently ranked as one of the most profitable franchises in the NFL because of their lack of spending. Mike Brown has the money to spend, he just doesn't want to. The Bills usually spend close to the salary cap. I have no idea why you're lumping them in with Cinci.

The vast majority of NFL revenue comes from TV contracts, dude. That's all national contracts that are split evenly...not by ratings. Dallas' seat ticket sales don't put them at some kind of incredible financial advantage over Tampa or whoever, especially since they just ship some of that money away to the lower teams. This isn't the NBA where most money comes from individual teams' personal TV deals and ticket sales. The only real advantage a big team has is in luxury box sales and concessions...which really isn't a ********.

thebow305 · 03-04-2013, 02:48 PM

Is that $37.25M up to date for Miami with the Starks franchise tag?

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thebow305

Is that $37.25M up to date for Miami with the Starks franchise tag?

Yep. Got that one in there earlier.

FlyingElvis · 03-04-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Monomach

No. Stop it. Cinci is consistently ranked as one of the most profitable franchises in the NFL because of their lack of spending. Mike Brown has the money to spend, he just doesn't want to. The Bills usually spend close to the salary cap. I have no idea why you're lumping them in with Cinci.

The vast majority of NFL revenue comes from TV contracts, dude. That's all national contracts that are split evenly...not by ratings. Dallas' seat ticket sales don't put them at some kind of incredible financial advantage over Tampa or whoever, especially since they just ship some of that money away to the lower teams. This isn't the NBA where most money comes from individual teams' personal TV deals and ticket sales. The only real advantage a big team has is in luxury box sales and concessions...which really isn't a ********.

Exactly. The media and endorsement contracts are measured in the billions and that's where the sharing comes from each year. The new CBA did reduce the amount of money the teams actually shared from local deals but that figure maxed out at $100M and is now way down. That's peanuts on a per team basis compared to the TV & Sponsor money. $3M per team isn't what keeps Brown from spending any money.

boknows34 · 03-04-2013, 03:31 PM

Rotoworld report the Saints have reworked DT Brodrick Bunkley's contract, dropping his 2013 base salary from $3.7 million to $750,000.

In exchange, the Saints cut a $2.95 million check for Bunkley in the form of a "signing" bonus. Previously scheduled to count $4.7 million versus the cap, Bunkley's cap number dipped to $2.5 million.

BallerT1215 · 03-04-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by boknows34

Rotoworld report the Saints have reworked DT Brodrick Bunkley's contract, dropping his 2013 base salary from $3.7 million to $750,000.

In exchange, the Saints cut a $2.95 million check for Bunkley in the form of a "signing" bonus. Previously scheduled to count $4.7 million versus the cap, Bunkley's cap number dipped to $2.5 million.

The dominator is still the man in my book.

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 04:07 PM

Bunkley and Mike Jenkins are in there. Waiting on more details before messing with Chiefs stuff.

vidae · 03-04-2013, 04:11 PM

Local radio station is reporting the Bowe deal is 5 year/$50mil with $24m guaranteed. And you already know the Colquitt/Albert numbers.

I expect news that Cassel is cut and Jackson restructured or is cut any day now.

coordinator0 · 03-04-2013, 04:19 PM

Your number for the Ravens seems off. This site has Baltimore at $112,719,179 in cap commitments for the 2013 season (after adding in Flacco's deal) which would give them a bit more than $10 million in cap room.

Azhais · 03-04-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by coordinator0

Your number for the Ravens seems off. This site has Baltimore at $112,719,179 in cap commitments for the 2013 season (after adding in Flacco's deal) which would give them a bit more than $10 million in cap room.

How much can they carry over? With Flacco being almost a 26m cap hit in 2014 one suspects they'll need some wiggle room.

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by coordinator0

Your number for the Ravens seems off. This site has Baltimore at $112,719,179 in cap commitments for the 2013 season (after adding in Flacco's deal) which would give them a bit more than $10 million in cap room.

I looked into it. That site you linked doesn't account for last season's carryover and my original source was missing Billy Cundiff's dead money due to a typo in their code (they had the 1.8M hit coming in the year 20123), so it falls in the middle. Looks like a little over 13M available.

coordinator0 · 03-04-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Azhais

How much can they carry over? With Flacco being almost a 26m cap hit in 2014 one suspects they'll need some wiggle room.

Not quite.

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Brian McFarland ‏@RavensSalaryCap
I was pretty close on Flacco's Cap numbers this AM. Based on @albertbreer 's tweets they are - $6.8M,$14.8M,$14.55M,$28.75M,$31.15M,$24.75M

As far as I know they can carry over as much cap room as they had left over from the previous year but I don't have any idea if there's any other rules regarding it.

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Originally Posted by Monomach

I looked into it. That site you linked doesn't account for last season's carryover and my original source was missing Billy Cundiff's dead money due to a typo in their code (they had the 1.8M hit coming in the year 20123), so it falls in the middle. Looks like a little over 13M available.

Yeah I just realized that after addressing the previous quote. They usually include it in their articles but that's just a current cap sheet so the carryover wouldn't be in there and I completely forgot about it.

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 05:04 PM

I guess Mike Brisiel took a straight $3M pay cut.

WinslowBodden · 03-04-2013, 05:17 PM

How much of Flacco's contract is guaranteed? It looks like the Ravens were at least smart to back load it in case he sucks.

BallerT1215 · 03-04-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Local radio station is reporting the Bowe deal is 5 year/$50mil with $24m guaranteed. And you already know the Colquitt/Albert numbers.

I expect news that Cassel is cut and Jackson restructured or is cut any day now.

I think that is a steal for Bowe.

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WinslowBodden

How much of Flacco's contract is guaranteed? It looks like the Ravens were at least smart to back load it in case he sucks.

$30 million is guaranteed right off the bat, no questions asked.

If he's not cut before 2014, a 15 million dollar bonus is guaranteed (prorated over remaining years).

If he's not cut before 2015, another 7 million dollar bonus is guaranteed (prorated over remaining years).

If he suffers a career-ending injury, those 15 and 7 million dollar amounts become guaranteed whether they cut him or not.

He's getting 62 million for his first three years, basically. Everything after that is gravy. It's a legit 20 mil per year contract, not a media-inflated one.

vidae · 03-04-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BallerT1215

I think that is a steal for Bowe.

I agree. I really think he would have gotten more from other teams. Surprised they were able to get that done and keep him in KC.

WinslowBodden · 03-04-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Monomach

$30 million is guaranteed right off the bat, no questions asked.

If he's not cut before 2014, a 15 million dollar bonus is guaranteed (prorated over remaining years).

If he's not cut before 2015, another 7 million dollar bonus is guaranteed (prorated over remaining years).

If he suffers a career-ending injury, those 15 and 7 million dollar amounts become guaranteed whether they cut him or not.

He's getting 62 million for his first three years, basically. Everything after that is gravy. It's a legit 20 mil per year contract, not a media-inflated one.

Not bad though if he flames out they can cut ties and and not worry about the huge cap (or trade him if he stays good and the team starts to stuck)

bearsfan_51 · 03-04-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BallerT1215

I think that is a steal for Bowe.

Eh....he's now 5th overall in guaranteed money for a receiver. Bowe is pretty overrated, and certainly not close to top 5 in the league, but somebody else probably would have given it to him (Redskins gave Pierre Garcon 20 mil after all)

49ersfan_87 · 03-04-2013, 06:48 PM

What's up with the 49ers cap? Earlier you had them at 3.5, then saving 9.75 with Alex being traded. That should be about 13.25 but you have them at like 9 now.

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87

What's up with the 49ers cap? Earlier you had them at 3.5, then saving 9.75 with Alex being traded. That should be about 13.25 but you have them at like 9 now.

Explained that earlier. You didn't read. :P

Scotty D · 03-04-2013, 07:05 PM

Mono, do you know if you can still trade Franchise players? I thought they changed something about that in the new CBA, just wondering if you knew.

Monomach · 03-04-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty D

Mono, do you know if you can still trade Franchise players? I thought they changed something about that in the new CBA, just wondering if you knew.

Can't find anything in the new CBA forbidding it.

BallerT1215 · 03-04-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Eh....he's now 5th overall in guaranteed money for a receiver. Bowe is pretty overrated, and certainly not close to top 5 in the league, but somebody else probably would have given it to him (Redskins gave Pierre Garcon 20 mil after all)

I don't know how you can say Bowe is overrated when he has put up pretty consistent numbers with some horrible QB's pretty much his whole career in the NFL. He had a little bit of a drop problem when he first got to NFL, and that was fixed after eye surgery. He always seems to go hard for the ball and he is a very good player for YAC.

Bowe blows Wallce and Jennings out of the water IMO of the FA WR's this season.

I also have a soft spot for him with the horrible QB play - reminds me of one of my favorite Bills of all time - Eric Moulds.

killxswitch · 03-04-2013, 08:26 PM

If only Bowe was getting a big upgrade at QB.