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View Poll Results: Is this trade fair?
Trade 1 is pretty fair 0 0%
Advantage Team A, not enough to veto 3 60.00%
VETO, advantage for Team A is too great 1 20.00%
Advantage Team B, not enough to veto 0 0%
VETO, advantage for Team B is too great 0 0%
Trade 2 is pretty fair 0 0%
Advantage Team C, not enough to veto 0 0%
VETO, advantage for Team C is too great 1 20.00%
Advantage Team D, not enough to veto 1 20.00%
VETO, advantage for Team D is too great 3 60.00%
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:12 PM    (permalink
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There were a couple pending trades in my league and I want opinions on whether or not they're fair. If you feel one of them is not fair, do you feel it's enough to veto the trade even if both managers involved agreed to it?


Trade 1:


Team A gets:

Adrian Beltre
Desmond
Ryu (DL)

Team B gets:

Puig
Uribe
Pineda (DL)

**Keep in mind this trade was proposed prior to Uribe's injury, so treat this proposal as if he's healthy.**


Trade 2:

Team C gets:

Fielder
Hardy
Lindstrom
Ervin Santana

Team D gets:

Jose Abreu
Darvish
Grilli (DL)

In addition to the standard scoring categories, this league also has doubles, walks, and SLG% on offense and complete games, HR's allowed, and quality starts for pitching.

Thanks for your input.

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Old 05-12-2014, 10:27 PM    (permalink
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No to both. Slanted big time to A on the first one and D on the second.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:40 PM    (permalink
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You don't veto a trade unless it's collusion. A savvy owner taking advantage of inexperienced or stupid owners is part of the game.
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Team A wins and Team D wins although neither should be vetoed.
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You don't veto a trade unless it's collusion. A savvy owner taking advantage of inexperienced or stupid owners is part of the game.
I tend to lean this way, although not quite as extreme as that.
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No to both. Slanted big time to A on the first one and D on the second.
Just curious, but why do you feel the first trade is slanted enough to veto?

Here's how I see it:
Beltre has been an excellent player in the past, but he's ~35 yrs old and his power has been declining each year he's been in Texas. Desmond has always had poor plate discipline but this year it's reaching a new level of bad. The lack of contact is concerning. Ryu is better than Pineda, but I don't think it's a huge difference (at least as far as fantasy is concerned).

Healthy Uribe probably won't continue putting up his current numbers, but he probably won't be terrible either (I doubt he's much worse than Desmond form here on out). Puig is the only player in that deal who is performing at an elite level and he appears to be pretty legit.

If both Beltre and Desmond bounce back in a big way, Team A comes out great; but that's a pretty significant IF.

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