Gruden's QB Camp Particpants Released

[kwilk103]

includes 3 non-qbs

• Matt Barkley (USC)
• Tyler Bray (Tennessee)
• Zac Dysert (Miami, OH)
• Mike Glennon (N.C. State)
• Landry Jones (Oklahoma)
• EJ Manuel (Florida State)
• Ryan Nassib (Syracuse)
• Geno Smith (West Virginia)
• Tyler Wilson (Arkansas)

• Luke Joeckel (Texas A&M), the 2012 Outland Trophy winner and top-five prospect at offensive tackle.
• Marcus Lattimore (South Carolina), the heralded Gamecocks running back who suffered a severe knee injury in October but hopes to play in the NFL in 2013.
• Manti Te’o (Notre Dame), the highly-touted linebacker and Heisman Trophy runner-up who led the Fighting Irish to the BCS Championship game.


http://frontrow.espn.go.com/2013/02/...udens-qb-camp/

[BallerT1215]

C'Mon EJ - hope he impresses

[descendency]

I think the system Glennon played in should show up in a big way with Glennon's interview - or else I will be disappointed with Gruden.

[underscore]

Is that a real invitation for Te'o or a fake one?

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by underscore

Is that a real invitation for Te'o or a fake one?

[brat316]

its fun to watch, but you don't really gain much from this.

[Monomach]

I might re-watch the Brandon Weeden one. It was funny.

Gruden: People say you're too old.
Weeden: Heh. Yep.
Gruden: No, really...you're super ******* old.
Weeden: *sigh*

[BallerT1215]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

its fun to watch, but you don't really gain much from this.

He will call them out for stupid plays/stupid tendencies. You see a little bit of coach gruden come out instead of the MNF gruden who loves everyone.

[Shupp]

Great lineup, can't wait, I love this series.

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by BallerT1215

He will call them out for stupid plays/stupid tendencies. You see a little bit of coach gruden come out instead of the MNF gruden who loves everyone.

Gruden: I sat down to watch your tape. Over and over and over I see this Sanzenbacher guy make amazing catches to bail you out. I want to draft him.
Terrelle Pryor: *looking pissed off* Uh, yeah. He's great.

[niel89]

I dislike that he is bringing in non-Qbs now. Nick Fairley had no business being on that episode. It just doesn't work as well. That being said I still actually want to see Lattimore though.

Gruden needs to get after some of these guys more. I know he is softer on TV, but if he was a coach he would actually try to test them mentally more. The only guy he sort of went after was Kirk Cousins. Too much of him just complementing guys on good plays.

[TACKLE]

Originally Posted by niel89

Gruden needs to get after some of these guys more. I know he is softer on TV, but if he was a coach he would actually try to test them mentally more. The only guy he sort of went after was Kirk Cousins. Too much of him just complementing guys on good plays.

Problem is agents of top QB prospects will discourage their guys from going on the program if Gruden is going to potentially make them look bad. It'd be more enjoyable from a draftfan's perspective for sure but it's not worth it for the players or ESPN.

[MidwayMonster31]

If you're going to have non-QBs in this program, I think they have to be either middle linebackers or safeties. If they were captains of their teams and have to read offenses and anticipate the opposing quarterback, then it could work. I didn't really get the point of having Nick Fairley on.

[shylo3716]

I believe he will fall in love with E.J.

[Menardo75]

LOVE this show. I really want to see how Bray responds to Gruden since we have heard questions about his maturity.

Gruden falls in love with every QB with the exception of Clausen but I think Nassib is going to be his guy this year.

[Jcn92]

Wonder if Teo's people asked Gruden not to bring up the whole girlfriend controversy as a condition for him being on it. He asked Pryor about his controversy when he was on it so I would be surprised if Gruden didn't ask Te'o about his controversy.

[Menardo75]

What I wouldn't give for Gruden to introduce himself to Manti and Manti's gf at the beginning of the show.

[Mufasa]

Originally Posted by shylo3716

I believe he will fall in love with E.J.

Is there a QB he doesn't fall in love with?

[Mufasa]

Plus you said Grudents. He doesn't coach teeth for ***** sake

[Docta]

[K Train]

i absolutely hate gruden and how he just is in love with every player he ever sees (except clausen of course, but especially tebow)

The most painfully average players are just amazing athletes and real "gruden grinders" to him.

The one thing i do like about him is when he talks in straight playbook lingo...he can just ramble on about what he calls one part of a play in words that make zero sense to 99% of the viewers

[Attyla the Hawk]

I like the show personally.

Yeah, there is the fluff piece angle. That goes on for a good 20 minutes and in my mind is merely obligatory. The price the show pays to get prospects to agree to participate.

There is some very good back and forth particularly as he puts prospects through some filmwork. He definitely does get to touch on the hot button topics and you do get to see how these young players deal with that kind of adversity.

The Wilson episode stands out for Russell's poise while Gruden tried to get under his skin repeatedly. How he handled that criticism was remarkably different than how Pryor or Weeden handled their prickly part of the show. And that difference has shown in their respective development paths in the NFL.

It's not a no holds barred format. But it's a pretty balanced format with a shade towards the self promotion side on the part of the prospects. There is value to be seen in the show -- you just have to kind of go looking for it.