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Old 02-20-2013, 03:21 PM    (permalink
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Where do you want us to post Tags and such.
Send them to me via email. If you want to post an announcement in the media thread, that'd be appreciated as well.
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Also, feel free to send in your cap cuts in an email with their positions and Rotoworld links.
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QB Joe Flacco: 5 years, $100 million

The team which signs Flacco will be spending $20 million of their available cap space, because $100 million divided by five years equals $20 million. If multiple teams offer contracts with the same total value, the free agent will be assigned to the team which offered fewer years. For example, a bid of four years and $100 million would take precedence over a bid of five years and $100 million because the average annual value is higher. However, the four-year bid would also be more costly to the signing team ($25 million as opposed to $20 million.)

If multiple teams offer a free agent identical contracts (ex. two teams each offer five years and $100 million), I will determine the free agent's destination.
So Flacco will be the only player in pro football not to get a signing bonus. Great. If Flacco signs a contract that averages 20 mil a year he will certainly not a 20 million dollar cap number in the first years of that deal. That's just not how contracts in the NFL work.

Drew Brees signed the same 5 year-100 million dollar contract this past off-season. His cap figures over the next 3 years are as follows:

2012: 10.4
2013: 17.4
2014: 18.4

We need to come up with a better way of dealing with the Flacco contract situation because there's a 0% chance his cap number in 2013 will be 20 million. It's just not realistic.
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Scott Wells signing with St. Louis didn't warrant a compensatory pick for Green Bay?
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So Flacco will be the only player in pro football not to get a signing bonus. Great. If Flacco signs a contract that averages 20 mil a year he will certainly not a 20 million dollar cap number in the first years of that deal. That's just not how contracts in the NFL work.

Drew Brees signed the same 5 year-100 million dollar contract this past off-season. His cap figures over the next 3 years are as follows:

2012: 10.4
2013: 17.4
2014: 18.4

We need to come up with a better way of dealing with the Flacco contract situation because even if his contract is bigger than that, there's a 0% chance his cap number in 2013 is 20 million. It's just not realistic.
You may be right about how Flacco's contract will work out, but I'm already expecting a migraine from figuring out all the free agent offers as is, so I'm not going to go through a bunch of complicated deals which are front-loaded, back-loaded, with varying guarantees, etc. Worst comes to work, you could always tag Flacco.
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Scott Wells signing with St. Louis didn't warrant a compensatory pick for Green Bay?
I guess not. I have only a vague understanding of how compensatory picks work, so I just found someone else's projections who was apparently successful last season by mirroring AdamJT13's and went with those.
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You may be right about how Flacco's contract will work out, but I'm already expecting a migraine from figuring out all the free agent offers as is, so I'm not going to go through a bunch of complicated deals which are front-loaded, back-loaded, with varying guarantees, etc. Worst comes to work, you could always tag Flacco.
I understand where your coming from and I know it's easier to streamline things but it's kinda of special circumstances when we got a guy who we know is going to be the highest paid player in NFL history up in free agency.
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i haz cap room! i sign all the players!
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Just a heads-up, I'm going to be putting each position on its own sheet in the free agency spreadsheet. You can switch sheets by using the tabs at the bottom of the screen. There should be one for each position fairly soon. Players who have been released as cap casualties will have a white background color for easier identification.
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So when we do our cuts should we list how much the player was signed for?
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So when we do our cuts should we list how much the player was signed for?
Include the links from rotoworld.

like this:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4707/chris-long

I pulled that one up so you can just use it
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P.S. please don't send me free agent offers until after I give the green light (probably some time on Friday.) I'd like to make a few offers, but I wanted to send mine to a third party before accepting other offers just to avoid the issue of knowing what other people will be bidding.
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damnit, can't believe I missed this. DG, lemme know if you want any second opinions
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I'm happy to take someone on as the Colts co/assistant GM.

Also, are we expected to keep cap room for rookies?

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By the way, updated cap figures are kept in the free agency thread, not the discussion thread.
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Are ERFA signings due friday as well? Also how does their pay structure work, is it just the minimum salary of whatever year they're in?
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Yes, they're due Friday as well. I'm going with $0.5 million for ERFAs. I think they actually make $0.54 but I'm rounding to one decimal point for free agents.
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Grizz is gonna be my co-GM is he accepts.
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I just realized I sent my cuts to your other e-mail address, sorry. I'll re-send it!
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5 mil under the cap with my cuts but roster stands at 37 players :/
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Do restructures count or is it all cuts to get under the cap?
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