2013 NFL Scouting Combine Thread - Page 12

Leon Sandcastle · 02-24-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

Twitter is blowing up right now about Patterson being a top 10 pick. I'm not sure I can see that but I do see the Dolphins taking a hard look at him if he's available when they pick.

Cleveland at #6, Buffalo at #8 and Miami at #12. Doesn't drop further.

TACKLE · 02-24-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

Twitter is blowing up right now about Patterson being a top 10 pick. I'm not sure I can see that but I do see the Dolphins taking a hard look at him if he's available when they pick.

lol are you serious? If he deserves strong consideration at 12, why can't he/won't he go top 10? That doesn't make sense.

phlysac · 02-24-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DcmRulz

Ace Sanders with a 4.53. He's more agile than fast, right?

I always thought of Sanders as a quick, slot-type.

Short area quickness and separation definitely aren't addressed with 40 times. Wes Welker ran a 4.61.

DcmRulz · 02-24-2013, 10:45 AM

Kenny Stills hitting 4.34. I like him as a day 2 sleeper.

Black Bolt · 02-24-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TACKLE

lol are you serious? If he deserves strong consideration at 12, why can't he/won't he go top 10? That doesn't make sense.

I put him in the top ten in my mock about a month ago.

CashmoneyDrew · 02-24-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CashmoneyDrew

Da'Rick could have ran that better. He stood straight up out of the blocks.

From a 4.56 to a 4.44. Technique accounts for a ton, obviously.

Hines · 02-24-2013, 11:04 AM

I did not expect Kenny Stills to run that fast.

Shreckart · 02-24-2013, 11:06 AM

I'm an OU fan, so watching Kenny run a 4.28 was unbelievable. I was expecting high 4.3's low 4.4's at best. Would not have ever expected a lower 4.3.

killxswitch · 02-24-2013, 11:09 AM

Seems like a lot more sub-4.4s than usual this year.

Babylon · 02-24-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch

Seems like a lot more sub-4.4s than usual this year.

Seems like fast times this year. Those old guys like Gil Brandt tend to pull the trigger too soon.

killxswitch · 02-24-2013, 11:18 AM

Maybe they finally got the timer calibrated properly. I still think Poe's 40 was faster than the 4.9 official time last year.

Trogdor · 02-24-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Babylon

Seems like fast times this year. Those old guys like Gil Brandt tend to pull the trigger too soon.

Indeed. Unofficial times are always blazing then the official electronic times come out and are more realistic of the product displayed :)

Hand times should ALWAYS faster due to reaction time of the timer.

phlysac · 02-24-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor

Hand times are ALWAYS going to be faster.

Wasn't Lane Johnson's unofficial time 4.75? Official was 4.72.

Trogdor · 02-24-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by phlysac

Wasn't Lane Johnson's unofficial time 4.75? Official was 4.72.

Indeed I should have said "should ALWAYS" rather than always. I was referring to the reaction time between hearing the gun/seeing the starting line crossed to actually clicking start.

Edited it in the original post. :)

draftguru151 · 02-24-2013, 11:38 AM

How the **** did Swope run a 4.34.

SolidGold · 02-24-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by draftguru151

How the **** did Swope run a 4.34.

He's fast?

phlysac · 02-24-2013, 11:39 AM

And how was Goodwin .07 faster than Austin when vid showed it a dead heat???

Official times are more accurate, right???

Bob Sanders Dreadlock · 02-24-2013, 11:44 AM

When do the defensive backs runs?

phlysac · 02-24-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock

When do the defensive backs runs?

DBs are the final day. Tuesday.

PossibleCabbage · 02-24-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by phlysac

And how was Goodwin 7/10 faster than Austin when vid showed it a dead heat???

Official times are more accurate, right???

Do you know how long seven one hundredths of a second is? It's not very long.

I would imagine that the uncertainty on the times (all times) is around .05 seconds.

mpt117 · 02-24-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by draftguru151

How the **** did Swope run a 4.34.

just came in here to post this. this is what i dont understand about the official/unofficial 40 times. swope didnt run an unofficial 40 faster than 4.34 than gets "adjusted" to an official 4.34.

i was watching on nfl network and he didnt look nearly as fast as cordarrelle patterson (4.42), denard robinson (4.43), corey fuller (4.43), justin hunter (4.44) and markus wheaton (4.45).

those are all there "official" times. they all burned swope with their unofficial times. i dont get it.

EDIT: just looked it up: swope's unofficials were 4.44 and 4.38 and his official got FASTER while everyone else got slower. how does that work?

phlysac · 02-24-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

Do you know how long seven one hundredths of a second is? It's not very long.

I would imagine that the uncertainty on the times (all times) is around .05 seconds.

I don't disagree, but if there is a .05 "uncertainty" with "official" times, it's not much more valid a standard than the unofficial times.

PossibleCabbage · 02-24-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by phlysac

I don't disagree, but if there is a .05 "uncertainty" with "official" times, it's not much more valid a standard than the unofficial times.

I think the only difference between "official" and "unofficial" times is that the "official" ones are what gets published on the combine webpage (you have to publish something, the combine packet that goes out to teams has like five times, and teams usually hand-time everything with multiple people anyway, but if you put 10 different times on the combine webpage, you would confuse people.)

They're still just half-electronic, half-hand-timed times and any time you introduce a hand on a stopwatch to the equation, you're going to introduce significant uncertainty (5/100 of a second is just an estimate, it could be more than that.)

Will be nice when we can get fully electronic times at the combine someday.

princefielder28 · 02-24-2013, 11:58 AM

the 2nd group of quarterbacks were far more impressive throwing the football than group 1

Monomach · 02-24-2013, 11:59 AM

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"His (expletive) is bigger than a coffee table," another scout said.

DJ Fluker has a sizable (expletive).

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"He's the most overrated of the bunch (DTs)," another scout said. "He doesn't really generate pressure. He doesn't shed guys and make plays. Sometimes he disappears. Other times he surely dominates."

Star.

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He's better than (David) DeCastro." Another scout described him as a third-round talent.

Frederick.

It's all smokescreens, but it's a fun read.