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Old 02-25-2013, 12:41 PM    (permalink
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Te'o never looked like a 1st round ILB to me. His 40 justifies my concerns for months now.
Indeed. Manti Te'o is going to be an average 3-4 ILB, and that's it.
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4.53 for Cornelius Washington. What a monster.
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Washington following Teo isnt even fair. It makes him look like a Greek God
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Being raw is so overrated for pass rushers. I said it when JPP was coming out, it doesn't matter if you're raw or not as a pass rusher.

Your job is to be an ogre and chase the football. You don't need technique for that. You need athleticism. You get to the qb in 2 seconds with athleticism. Moves are overrated. You just need 2 moves. A primary move and a change up.
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Gil Brandt on twitter said he hand-timed Te'o at 4.71.

Go home, Gil. You're too old for this ****.
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4.53 for Cornelius Washington. What a monster.
I've been pimping him for a long time now. I don't get how he's not a 1st round pick. He looks like a 1st round pass rusher to me. He dominated the senior bowl just as much as Ansah too.
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Stop being logical bbd. Staph.
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Being raw is so overrated for pass rushers. I said it when JPP was coming out, it doesn't matter if you're raw or not as a pass rusher.

Your job is to be an ogre and chase the football. You don't need technique for that. You need athleticism. You get to the qb in 2 seconds with athleticism. Moves are overrated. You just need 2 moves. A primary move and a change up.
But Everrette Brown had such great moves!
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George Selvie was so great!
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Gil Brandt on twitter said he hand-timed Te'o at 4.71.

Go home, Gil. You're too old for this ****.
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Arthur Brown's breaking my heart by waiting until his pro day to do anything. Kiko Alonso, too.
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But Everrette Brown had such great moves!
Everette Brown had 2 problems. He didn't have a change up, and he wasn't very big. He was fast but he wasn't a length mismatch. And he wasn't strong.

When you're long, fast, and strong like Ansah/JPP you'll succeed. You can't just be fast and expect to succeed. Brown wasn't the freak that Ansah/JPP were.

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Ditto for Selvie. Wasn't a big guy. Speed alone isn't enough. You need to be long and strong as well.
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Ansah is still an incredibly raw player and placing his ceiling at 9 isn't an insult.
It's not really insult, but I don't see how it's true. He's raw, but extremely talented, meaning there has to be at least some chance that he goes higher than 9.
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I know bbd. I'm just kidding. I loveeee Ansah and I think he will succeed in the NFL.
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Everette Brown had 2 problems. He didn't have a change up, and he wasn't very big. He was fast but he wasn't a length mismatch. And he wasn't strong.
yea but he had the spinzzzzz
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Being raw is so overrated for pass rushers. I said it when JPP was coming out, it doesn't matter if you're raw or not as a pass rusher.

Your job is to be an ogre and chase the football. You don't need technique for that. You need athleticism. You get to the qb in 2 seconds with athleticism. Moves are overrated. You just need 2 moves. A primary move and a change up.
Vernon Gholston and Aaron Maybin agree with this
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Vernon Gholston and Aaron Maybin agree with this
I think "want to" is also a big part of the equation. But they don't test for that at the combine (at least, outside of the interviews.)
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My dick is getting harder and harder for Cornelius Washington. Now that my Ansah dream is shattered, I'm all about Cornelius Washington.

I can make a strong argument that Washington is more of a physical freak than Ansah.
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Vernon Gholston and Aaron Maybin agree with this
So do JPP, Mario Williams, and Julius Peppers.

And Maybin and Gholston weren't freaks in hindsight. Maybin was tiny (never thought he was good, thought he'd bust from day 1), and Gholston was stiff and not exceptionally long.
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Teo ran even worse than his time lololol
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4.81 for Teo, 2nd round here he comes.
No Polynesian will ever run a fast 40. But they are tough as nails.

2nd round would be fine for Te'o after everything he's been through. He might even fall 3rd or later. Nothing will surprise me.
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No Polynesian will ever run a fast 40. But they are tough as nails.

2nd round would be fine for Te'o after everything he's been through. He might even fall 3rd or later. Nothing will surprise me.
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My dick is getting harder and harder for Cornelius Washington. Now that my Ansah dream is shattered, I'm all about Cornelius Washington.

I can make a strong argument that Washington is more of a physical freak than Ansah.
Washington will be great if he can ever wrap his head around the idea of run stuffing. Cause he stinks in that department.
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Polamalu ?
Nope, not fast. Tough as nails though.
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Washington will be great if he can ever wrap his head around the idea of run stuffing. Cause he stinks in that department.
He set the edge at the Senior Bowl. I think we can coach him up. He'll thrive in our program.
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