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Old 02-25-2013, 06:59 PM    (permalink
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Is Te'o a better prospect then Mualuaga? Serious question.
No. I just can't believe that.

Maybe better in pass coverage.
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I feel bad for those who are going to assume Goodwin is a track guy trying to play football. I heard a few guys on NFLN say that a few times as if it was some fact. At this point I just have to realize that until Mack is gone we can't utilize our talent.


He only had 39 touches on the entire year, and for a team that has no play-makers of his caliber that is sad in itself. How are you going to even accurately grade him on that few touches? He still scored 6 times on those touches. So he'll be going in very raw but he's going to be able to make plays for a team and I think he's easily a day 2 pick now. He looked great at the Senior Bowl and CB's will have trouble covering him man to man.
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Pretty much sums up his stock in a few seconds at the current moment....



But seriously, thank God we took Kuechly.
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Is Te'o a better prospect then Mualuaga? Serious question.
I'd say no, but this coming from a guy who liked Maualuga more than Matthews and Cushing so what do I know.

Maualuga was more physical than Te'o and a more explosive athlete in general. Rey was also considered to be a little raw coming out and was criticized for playing out of position a little too often, so Te'o probably gets the nod as the more disciplined guy playing within the defense.

Bottom line: Te'o looked physically outmatched against Bama and the questions about how he'll stack up against NFL talent are legit, I don't remember that happening with Rey at SC.

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Is Te'o a better prospect then Mualuaga? Serious question.
Te'o has much better instincts; Maualuga never saw a play fake at USC he didn't want to bite on. Other than that they're fairly similar. Maualuga is definitely more explosive, and does a lot better getting off blocks, but they both struggle to similar degrees with agility and range.

Wouldn't trust either one on third down.
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Te'o has much better instincts; Maualuga never saw a play fake at USC he didn't want to bite on. Other than that they're fairly similar. Maualuga is definitely more explosive, and does a lot better getting off blocks, but they both struggle to similar degrees with agility and range.

Wouldn't trust either one on third down.
Disagree. Maualuga was a better athlete in space by a good margin, better closing speed too.
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Is Te'o a better prospect then Mualuaga? Serious question.
Yuck. That's another guy I hated.

Te'o's better in coverage and worse against the run...not good at either and slow as hell. About the same thing I said about Muauluga...3-4 ILB only, 3rd round.
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I feel bad for those who are going to assume Goodwin is a track guy trying to play football. I heard a few guys on NFLN say that a few times as if it was some fact. At this point I just have to realize that until Mack is gone we can't utilize our talent.


He only had 39 touches on the entire year, and for a team that has no play-makers of his caliber that is sad in itself. How are you going to even accurately grade him on that few touches? He still scored 6 times on those touches. So he'll be going in very raw but he's going to be able to make plays for a team and I think he's easily a day 2 pick now. He looked great at the Senior Bowl and CB's will have trouble covering him man to man.
It sucks. So tired of Mack Brown. He's a politician and is good at raising money for UT. UT should be world beaters every year.
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It sucks. So tired of Mack Brown. He's a politician and is good at raising money for UT. UT should be world beaters every year.
Mack Brown for the most part sucks at recruiting quarterbacks. Manziel could easily have been a Longhorn. Just imagine.


UT doesn't do a great job recruiting out of state IMO and they lack front 7 elite talent. Offensively they should much better than they've shown the last few seasons.

Some team is going to draft Goodwin, start him on specials as he learns the WR position, and in a couple seasons he's going to be a pro bowl WR.
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Te'o is a poor man's Maualuga.
In terms of his football playing ability, I like him less than a lot of guys who've gone in round 2 or lower. The off-field nonsense is just salt on the wound.
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Now wait a minute.

You just based your opinion on Senior Bowl practice reports and whatever you may have seen televised. That's fine. But you can't say "production." That's not accurate. He did produce and perform at SMU.

I did not know it was widely known he struggled that much at the Senior Bowl. I guess that explains some of the comments I've been reading. I never came across any nuggets about him struggling nor did I see any of his reps (if any were televised at all I don't know).

That does make sense though. It's very possible the few televised reps he had were poor and many people on here saw those and have based their opinion maybe even just slightly on that. Or that + reports that he struggled. That would concern me.

However, I think I should point out that:
A) He didn't even try the spin move from what I've watched so perhaps he was "spring training" a new pitch so to speak.

and

B) Daniel Jeremiah did mention not to put too much stock into Sr. Bowl week. He recounted Vincent Jackson dropping everything and someone else who put on a show and then sucked (don't remember who).

The jump in level of competition is a concern if he indeed did badly struggle. I didn't find much from google so I'm going to take my game tape/combine #s and judge from there. But if anyone else read or saw his Sr. Bowl stuff that'd help.
Margus Hunt looked slow-ish and confused in the Senior Bowl game. He couldn't hold his ground at the point, and his reaction time was very poor.

You really didn't see any of that speed or upper body strength Margus showed at the combine. Add that he's overage for an NFL rookie and it's easy to see why people are a little down on him.

I was watching with a guy who said why wasn't Hunt tried at TE at SMU?? If he can catch just a little bit, he would be a monsta.
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Ziggy Ansah = Robert Quinn

Is that a fair comparison?
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Is that a fair comparison?
I don't think you can compare anybody to Ansah, Quinn was miles ahead of Ansah in technique. Ansah has started 9 games in college and that is about all the experience he has. I think Ansah will need at least 2 full years as a situational pass rusher before he is ready to play full time.
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Ziggy Ansah = Robert Quinn

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I don't think you can compare anybody to Ansah, Quinn was miles ahead of Ansah in technique. Ansah has started 9 games in college and that is about all the experience he has. I think Ansah will need at least 2 full years as a situational pass rusher before he is ready to play full time.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ombine-stress/

Manti Te'o inadvertently admits that he can't handle stress as well as the other players at the combine.
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Manti Te'o inadvertently admits that he can't handle stress as well as the other players at the combine.
I wouldn't necessarily say that since Te'o surely had to deal with the media way more than the other prospects. Still not a great excuse though. We'll see how the pro day goes.
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But that is in part because he doesn't appear to play to that speed. People have to be in shock.
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I wouldn't necessarily say that since Te'o surely had to deal with the media way more than the other prospects. Still not a great excuse though. We'll see how the pro day goes.
He only had the one fifteen minute press conference two days ago. He didn't have to deal with any media other than that.
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Margus Hunt looked slow-ish and confused in the Senior Bowl game. He couldn't hold his ground at the point, and his reaction time was very poor.

You really didn't see any of that speed or upper body strength Margus showed at the combine. Add that he's overage for an NFL rookie and it's easy to see why people are a little down on him.

I was watching with a guy who said why wasn't Hunt tried at TE at SMU?? If he can catch just a little bit, he would be a monsta.

I really doubt he has the flexibility and coordination needed to play TE.
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Does anyone know what the hell happened to the short shuttle/3 cone numbers for the DL? Everything else but that is up on the website....
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Mack Brown for the most part sucks at recruiting quarterbacks. Manziel could easily have been a Longhorn. Just imagine.


UT doesn't do a great job recruiting out of state IMO and they lack front 7 elite talent. Offensively they should much better than they've shown the last few seasons.

Some team is going to draft Goodwin, start him on specials as he learns the WR position, and in a couple seasons he's going to be a pro bowl WR.
There were mixed results but Brown did bring in Vince Young, Colt McCoy, Jevan Snead and Garrett Gilbert.
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There were mixed results but Brown did bring in Vince Young, Colt McCoy, Jevan Snead and Garrett Gilbert.
We didn't offer Manziel at all and were looking at him as a DB and we wanted RGIII as an "athlete". Johnny Football would have gladly committed here, RGIII probably not but when your not even going to recruit him as a QB of course not. When you consider the terrible QB play recently and 2 former Heisman winners weren't even on our radar it's obvious he's just getting out of touch with the game. There also really isn't any reason that you couldn't find ways to get Goodwin the ball more when your offense lacks play-makers.


The only reason they haven't bottomed out completely is because they still get a few recruits a year just for being Texas, but it's only getting worse until Mack gets fired.
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Margus Hunt looked slow-ish and confused in the Senior Bowl game. He couldn't hold his ground at the point, and his reaction time was very poor.

You really didn't see any of that speed or upper body strength Margus showed at the combine. Add that he's overage for an NFL rookie and it's easy to see why people are a little down on him.

I was watching with a guy who said why wasn't Hunt tried at TE at SMU?? If he can catch just a little bit, he would be a monsta.
Doesn't make much sense because I see it in his tape. Maybe it's the man-amongst-boys concept. I'll try to find him against better opponents than Fresno and Pitt.
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I really doubt he has the flexibility and coordination needed to play TE.
Hunt was the most athletic guy out there today - he has a track background as well so I am sure he is plenty flexible. He moved around really well in all the drills as well. A very smooth fluid athlete.
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