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Old 02-23-2013, 03:17 PM    (permalink
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A day or two ago, I read that the Packers basically have their draft board set by the end of December. They might move a few guys up or down, but for the most part, they have everything done by the end of the college football season.

It made me wonder if rising/falling stock is largely a myth.
Meh I think some GMs know what they are doing and the others fall in love with workout numbers. Stocks rise due to off season workouts because people fall in love with the so called "athletic" numbers rather than viewing tape. After following the draft for a decade you tend to pick up on trends and see that some teams do reach for players due to being workout warriors and those teams usually seem to get burned by these players.

Cracks me up how people get total boners over total no names or people who run fast 40s every year yet never prove they are worth a damn in the NFL.
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Tyler Eifert separated himself today.
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Not a Montgomery fan but would hesitate to just lump those two together because they played for the same team.
As far as my post goes, I wasn´t really lumping them together cus they played on the same team. (Even tho Im generally a bit wary about a lot of guys coming out of LSU.)
My point was, that I dont think that either Mingo or Montgomery will be very succesfull NFL players. I do think however, that it will be for completely different reasons.
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It's early but i'd say these guys have made themselves some dough this weekend:

Lane Johnson
Jonathon Cooper
Tyler Eifert
Vance McDonald
Kyle Long
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Fluker at 21 does not bother me he clearly works out and there are a couple of other factors,

1. 37" arms are something we have not see really and we normally give guys with 34" arms a break.

2. He lost 20lbs recently and that is going to take away some of your weight room power.

Also Anthony Davis [21] and Phil Loadholt [24] did not blow the bench press away and they are a couple of the more powerful OTs in the league.
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It's early but i'd say these guys have made themselves some dough this weekend:

Lane Johnson
Jonathon Cooper
Tyler Eifert
Vance McDonald
Kyle Long
Starting to get the feeling Jonathon Cooper is out of the picture at number 24 meow =/
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Hmm. Is Cooper reasonable as a top 15 pick now?
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Warmack's 9'2" broad jump is a pretty good excuse.
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Warmack's 9'2" broad jump is a pretty good excuse.
Sorry. I meant Fluker, not Warmack. Thinking about one Bama lineman, meant the other.
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Tyler Eifert separated himself today.
Yeah, surprised at his speed. I'm definitely putting him back as the #1 TE. The TE class in general looks to be pretty good. Could have Eifert, Ertz, McDonald, Escobar and Kelce all being picked in the top 90.
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A day or two ago, I read that the Packers basically have their draft board set by the end of December. They might move a few guys up or down, but for the most part, they have everything done by the end of the college football season.

It made me wonder if rising/falling stock is largely a myth.
Interesting. Do you have a link to that? Would love to read it.
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What did Eifert run?
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Ertz ran 4.76 and Escobar ran 4.84
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I'd just as soon go with hand held times. the descrepancy between hand held and electronic varies too much from player to player.
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where is TE Escobar projected to go?
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4.60 is what he ran.
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where is TE Escobar projected to go?
Escobar will probably land in the second round somewhere
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I'd just as soon go with hand held times. the descrepancy between hand held and electronic varies too much from player to player.
...how does that validate hand-held times? Couldn't it easily imply that the hand-held timers are inconsistently measuring runs?
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Hmm. Is Cooper reasonable as a top 15 pick now?
No...but he is reasonably a top 16 pick:-)
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Chance Warmack has a somewhat poor outing in the combine that means he should fall to round two pick 4 right
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Interesting. Do you have a link to that? Would love to read it.
No problem. After reading it a second time, I think I extrapolated a bit too much. Here's the quote:

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Thompson will benefit from the labor Dorsey put in during the season because all the reports he did on players are reflected in the position of the players on their draft board. By the time the college season is done, the board has been well-established.

What happens between now and April is that the board gets adjusted based on information from the combine and pro day workouts as well as long discussions inside the draft room. Not having Dorsey around might affect Thompson the most on draft day because like Schneider and McKenzie, he was experienced at working the phones for trade possibilities.

"Ted's been through it so many times," Schneider said. "You get the board set up with your staff during the year and then you just work it and work it. He's done that before. The difference is draft day. I don't know who will be on the phones calling teams and things like that."
Like I said, after giving it a second read, I think I extrapolated a bit, but it still makes for a good read. I always enjoy reading about the pre-draft process of teams. Here's the article:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...192417711.html
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the track is clearly slow today.
It's not today, it's every year. I think it's worth investigating.
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The track is always slow, except when offensive linemen run 4.7 and running backs run 4.2.
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