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Andre Williams has been a beast in his Senior campaign. He has ideal size (6' 225), nice burst, and really good vision. He moved into the Top 5 (maybe even Top 3) in rushing today (1176) and is averaging 5.5ypc. Where do you guys rank him at this point, as a prospect?
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I really like this kid. He runs kind of upright to me, so that may be a concern to some, but he runs tough and, while he doesn't have breakaway speed, it's enough to get those 20 yard runs every now and then. Some team is going to get a 4th/5th round steal.
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BC always finds good RBs. In the 3rd-5th Round he'd be a nice piece to a playoff's team championship puzzle.
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Another huge game today - 339 and 2 touchdowns. That's 634 yards and 4 touchdowns in the past two weeks, fourth 200+ yard game of the season. Averaging 6.3 YPC in a "pro style" offense - total of 1,810 yards and 14 touchdowns this year. He's having a pretty special season.

Not a breakway runner and doesn't really catch the ball out of the backfield, but he's got deceptive speed, breaks tackles, and is just a pretty good runner. Probably gets drafted in the mid-rounds and could carve out a role in the NFL if he gets a good opportunity.
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He could hit 2000. Heisman hype? Where?
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Andre Williams has been a beast in his Senior campaign. He has ideal size (6' 225), nice burst, and really good vision. He moved into the Top 5 (maybe even Top 3) in rushing today (1176) and is averaging 5.5ypc. Where do you guys rank him at this point, as a prospect?
I have him as my number two back, although I live in Boston and have seen him play several times. I was high on him before the season started. I think the key for Williams is getting to play in a zone running scheme, he could be a big time NFL player.
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As a senior he is easily top 5 RB, and even if some RS sophomore or JR players come out with this amazing season he could still be in the top 5.

Just a crazy impressive season he is having, nice to see because early in his career he was showing great promise as a freshman but then really did not do much till now. Really turned it around and is getting the absolute most out of his talents. Impressive to see in the football world of today.
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I watched some of him last night, and the player that came to mind was Toby Gerhart.
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How serious are his fumbling problems? I watched his game against NC State and although he looked good running the ball he fumbled 3 or 4 times. If that's a serious issue it could seriously hurt his draft stock.
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We talked about Williams in-depth on the podcast a couple of weeks ago.

Williams is obviously having an incredible senior campaign and shot way up draft boards, into the middle rounds on my board. However, Williams is relatively limited and what I like to call a "Meat & Potatoes" type. The guy is a big, powerful, North / South, between-the-tackles runner but he isn't a big play threat and won't be able to get outside and turn the corner at the next level. Perhaps more troubling is the pass catching aspect of Williams' game. Is Williams unable to be a reliable receiving threat out of the backfield or does Boston College just not utilize those skills?

These days most NFL teams are looking for versatile running backs and there aren't many one- dimensional types like Williams starting in the league. I'd compare him to a LeGarrette Blount.
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This dude is not human. WTF is he doing to the Terps??
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Holy ****. This guy is freaking insane. Way over 2k now with a game left.

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We talked about Williams in-depth on the podcast a couple of weeks ago.

Williams is obviously having an incredible senior campaign and shot way up draft boards, into the middle rounds on my board. However, Williams is relatively limited and what I like to call a "Meat & Potatoes" type. The guy is a big, powerful, North / South, between-the-tackles runner but he isn't a big play threat and won't be able to get outside and turn the corner at the next level. Perhaps more troubling is the pass catching aspect of Williams' game. Is Williams unable to be a reliable receiving threat out of the backfield or does Boston College just not utilize those skills?

These days most NFL teams are looking for versatile running backs and there aren't many one- dimensional types like Williams starting in the league. I'd compare him to a LeGarrette Blount.
He just runs. They don't use their backs in the passing game that much - BC never has (excluding FBs). And a lot of RBs come into the NFL never having done much receiving in college and turn into really good receivers out of the backfield. It's not a skill that isn't easily added.

Williams doesn't have long speed, but his short burst is pretty good. His vision is just incredibly good.
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Don't think he's very good. Feel like BenJarvis Green-Ellis is his upside. Solid player that you can give 20 carries to every week and he won't embarrass himself out there, but he also doesn't have that big play ability. It's not just about the potential to go 80 every time he touches the ball. But he's also not going to be a guy that makes that makes a cut to make a safety miss 3-4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and get to the last level of the defense for a 12-15 yard gain.
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watching him today, he runs ugly, it really reminds me of beanie wells.
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Don't think he's very good. Feel like BenJarvis Green-Ellis is his upside. Solid player that you can give 20 carries to every week and he won't embarrass himself out there, but he also doesn't have that big play ability. It's not just about the potential to go 80 every time he touches the ball. But he's also not going to be a guy that makes that makes a cut to make a safety miss 3-4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and get to the last level of the defense for a 12-15 yard gain.

He had a 70+ TD run late against the Terps today and a 36 yard TD run.
Andre Williams has all kinds of big play ability.

Williams is a bigger Micheal Turner.

Every good RB doesn't have to tap dance and shake-and-bake every defender in the open field.

Williams had a stiff arm today that basically tackled the DB down to the ground.

His stock is a shooting star at the moment.
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Don't think he's very good. Feel like BenJarvis Green-Ellis is his upside. Solid player that you can give 20 carries to every week and he won't embarrass himself out there, but he also doesn't have that big play ability. It's not just about the potential to go 80 every time he touches the ball. But he's also not going to be a guy that makes that makes a cut to make a safety miss 3-4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and get to the last level of the defense for a 12-15 yard gain.
He doesn't have to make a Safety miss when he can just run him over. He's got better speed than Green-Ellis.
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He's running over college kids in a mediocre conference. That isn't as easy at the next level and doesn't fly for longevity. Unless you're Adrian Peterson, I don't want my RB needing to run over safeties and LBs in order to make big plays.
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He's running over college kids in a mediocre conference. That isn't as easy at the next level and doesn't fly for longevity. Unless you're Adrian Peterson, I don't want my RB needing to run over safeties and LBs in order to make big plays.
You realize the ACC produces more NFL talent than any conference not named the SEC right?
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You realize the ACC produces more NFL talent than any conference not named the SEC right?
And? Yet his best games have been against Army, New Mexico St, Wake, Maryland and NC State, teams that will produce no NFL defensive talent this draft. He did have decent games against FSU and UNC, but struggled against USC and VT.
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Maryland actually has a pretty good defense.
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I hope his ability in the passing game is better than his 0 catches indicate. It's a problem for a NFL team when the defense knows your RB isn't a threat to catch passes. I have no idea about his pass blocking, but that might be even more impactful to his stock than pass catching.
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He's running over college kids in a mediocre conference. That isn't as easy at the next level and doesn't fly for longevity. Unless you're Adrian Peterson, I don't want my RB needing to run over safeties and LBs in order to make big plays.
And if he made defenders miss, you'll still say "those are mediocre college kids".
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He'll go in the 3rd round and provide similar value as Trent Richardson in the NFL
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He'll go in the 3rd round and provide similar value as Trent Richardson in the NFL
From what I've seen of Richardson as a pro, I'd say Andre Williams is a more talented player.

Williams is an unsexy player from an unsexy team playing in an unsexy conference.

But his talent and ability are elite IMO.

I haven't seen a more powerful runner in college since AD.

If BC had a passing game, Williams might be sniffing 2500-2700 yards this season. Seriously.

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Williams reminds me of Arian Foster.
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