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Old 05-09-2013, 02:19 PM    (permalink
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Really? Over-the-hill Carson Palmer is going to save Arizona, who has a terrible offensive line (Cooper helps, but it's still bad) and can't run the ball at all? The Cardinals are going to win over 8 games with San Francisco and Seattle in the division with the Rams not that far behind? Oh and they play in the tougher conference? Well, stranger things have happened I guess.
Yeah. I do think the former no. 1 overall pick and Pro Bowler is going to look a lot different throwing to Larry Fitzgerald and Malcolm Floyd than he did in Purgatory. Arizona has a better line (especially with Cooper) than people realize, and I think they'll be able to run the ball. If they can win a couple games in the NFL's strongest division, they're going to win a lot of games outside of it and be a legitimate force in the league. I'm not predicting the Super Bowl, or even the playoffs, but that they'll be a team which will put up a serious fight against anybody.
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lol at the mention of Flacco.
2008 QB Rating: 80.3, 22nd in the NFL
2009 QB Rating: 88.9, 13th in the NFL
2010 QB Rating: 93.6, 7th in the NFL
2011 QB Rating: 80.9, 18th in the NFL
2012 QB Rating: 87.7, 12th in the NFL

2010 only year to even consider him, and he probably turned it down as that year was a crapfest for QB's
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Brandon Flowers is a pretty damn good CB. He's never mentioned with the best in the game (he shouldn't be) but I think he's on that next tier.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:36 PM    (permalink
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2010 only year to even consider him, and he probably turned it down as that year was a crapfest for QB's
Even if you turn it down, you are still considered a pro bowler.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:42 PM    (permalink
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Yeah. I do think the former no. 1 overall pick and Pro Bowler is going to look a lot different throwing to Larry Fitzgerald and Malcolm Floyd than he did in Purgatory. Arizona has a better line (especially with Cooper) than people realize, and I think they'll be able to run the ball. If they can win a couple games in the NFL's strongest division, they're going to win a lot of games outside of it and be a legitimate force in the league. I'm not predicting the Super Bowl, or even the playoffs, but that they'll be a team which will put up a serious fight against anybody.
We'll see, Palmer has a lot to prove again. He hasn't performed well in 6-7 years. He is being put on a lot better offense than Cincinnati could offer post 2006, and it's definitely better than the Raiders offense, but he still needs to prove himself before anyone can say anything about him with any certainty.
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I was shocked when fenikz pointed out that Calais Campbell hasn't been to a Pro Bowl. I see him as the prototypical 3-4 DE.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:53 PM    (permalink
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We'll see, Palmer has a lot to prove again. He hasn't performed well in 6-7 years. He is being put on a lot better offense than Cincinnati could offer post 2006, and it's definitely better than the Raiders offense, but he still needs to prove himself before anyone can say anything about him with any certainty.
And that's fair, but is also basically what I'm saying - this is the best set of wideouts he's had since Housh and Chad Johnson were in their prime, so it's a wait-and-see thing. Which is why I said I wasn't predicting anything substantial; the reason Carson Palmer got brought up in the first place wasn't to say he was going to have a Pro Bowl type season, but that Arizona is so strong in other facets of the game, and their QB play so abysmal last year, that I think Carson Palmer is going to be a very effective band-aid, even if they still want to bring in a young QB in the next draft. I mean, if I was AZ's GM I'd be feeling good about my team's prospects for this season while keeping a very close eye on the incoming crop of QBs.
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I was shocked when fenikz pointed out that Calais Campbell hasn't been to a Pro Bowl. I see him as the prototypical 3-4 DE.
Surprised as well. He gets overshadowed by Darnell Dockett on that line so that could be part of it.

The craziest part is a lot of people didn't think Campbell would be a good fit when he got drafted to Arizona in the 3-4.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:42 AM    (permalink
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Michael Huff and Danieal Manning have both made the All Pro team, but never made a Pro Bowl.
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Mike Pouncey.
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Campbell seems like the easy winner here. Dude is way too good to have not made a Pro Bowl.
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Michael Huff and Danieal Manning have both made the All Pro team, but never made a Pro Bowl.
I'm glad someone else was the first to mention Danieal Manning for once. Most underrated player in the league.
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yes indeed.

The likes of David Garrard, Kerry Collins, Matt Cassel, Vince Young and even Derek Anderson have made the Pro Bowl over Flacco.

Although I do remember Flacco was invited one year as an alternate but he turned it down.

Just goes to show you what a joke the pro bowl really is.
or what a joke Flacco's elite status is....


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Demaryius Thomas or Dez Bryant.
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