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Old 05-24-2013, 03:03 PM    (permalink
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I can understand people doing a 180 when new information comes out, but when people do a 180 with the same info out there, I really start to scratch my head.
I didn't do a 180 on anyone. TH & Cigaro have always been on my good list. Grizz moved because I believe his claim. OSU, Rufus, and brat have always been on my bad list.

I changed my mind on Cain, D-Unit, and UK. If you read, I said I was leaning bad on UK. And when two people I thought were evil are cleared, of course he is going to move to my likely bad list. For Cain, I said I didn't have a feeling either way. But his overly cautious actions have me thinking. As for D-Unit, I'm still not calling you evil. You are the least suspicious person of the 5 I have in the "Rest" category. Not really a change.
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I didn't do a 180 on anyone. TH & Cigaro have always been on my good list. Grizz moved because I believe his claim. OSU, Rufus, and brat have always been on my bad list.

I changed my mind on Cain, D-Unit, and UK. If you read, I said I was leaning bad on UK. And when two people I thought were evil are cleared, of course he is going to move to my likely bad list. For Cain, I said I didn't have a feeling either way. But his overly cautious actions have me thinking. As for D-Unit, I'm still not calling you evil. You are the least suspicious person of the 5 I have in the "Rest" category. Not really a change.
and how were the people cleared?

By them ending up dead the next day, coincidence I think not.
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This is personally where I get really suspicious of brat, don't like it one bit, but I hate the actions of everyone right now.
This is a good post. I might have my finger pointing heavily at JR, but I hate ignoring other suspicions when they make sense and this one does raise a flag. The fact that he put the hammer in on SP also sticks out to me.
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and how were the people cleared?

By them ending up dead the next day, coincidence I think not.
CJ was cleared because he died. Grizz was cleared because I believed his claim. The first night both people who died were people I had on my good list.
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This is where I am with Cain as well, sure we have the investigation by SP, but he's didn't rush and hammer SP to be lynched. Gameplay sure...but I feel like he gave the benefit of the doubt to him.

Honestly, I think JR's evil vibe for me comes from that I was grouped with CJ and Grizz in his group of three who he believed 1 of us was evil and since CJ is dead and Grizz is good in his eyes, I must be evil then.
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This is where I am with Cain as well, sure we have the investigation by SP, but he's didn't rush and hammer SP to be lynched. Gameplay sure...but I feel like he gave the benefit of the doubt to him.

Honestly, I think JR's evil vibe for me comes from that I was grouped with CJ and Grizz in his group of three who he believed 1 of us was evil and since CJ is dead and Grizz is good in his eyes, I must be evil then.
That is where it comes from. You did mention that you could clear yourself but it would take away from the spirit of the game. That post interested me though I'm not sure if it makes me trust you more or less.
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This is a good post. I might have my finger pointing heavily at JR, but I hate ignoring other suspicions when they make sense and this one does raise a flag. The fact that he put the hammer in on SP also sticks out to me.
The hammer?

I didn't rush to vote SP, I had faith he was good.

I really wanted to give SP a chance, but it seemed like he mailed it in, I was reluctant to vote toward SP.
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CJ was cleared because he died. Grizz was cleared because I believed his claim. The first night both people who died were people I had on my good list.
That's a little too convenient isn't it??? Who had both vidae and gonzo on their good lists on Day 1?

As mafia, it sure makes it easy to know who is good.
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I didn't do a 180 on anyone. TH & Cigaro have always been on my good list. Grizz moved because I believe his claim. OSU, Rufus, and brat have always been on my bad list.

I changed my mind on Cain, D-Unit, and UK. If you read, I said I was leaning bad on UK. And when two people I thought were evil are cleared, of course he is going to move to my likely bad list. For Cain, I said I didn't have a feeling either way. But his overly cautious actions have me thinking. As for D-Unit, I'm still not calling you evil. You are the least suspicious person of the 5 I have in the "Rest" category. Not really a change.
Of course not. You want me to ease the pressure. But I'm not. Too many suspicions on you are adding up. You're not gonna get on my good side unless you or someone else can provide evidence that you are good.

I'm much rather you be defensive and attack me back than sit there and say you think I am good. That's a mafia tactic to get me off your back.
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That's a little too convenient isn't it??? Who had both vidae and gonzo on their good lists on Day 1?

As mafia, it sure makes it easy to know who is good.
I thought they were good because Gonzo was playing his typical good self and Vidae wasn't being classic evil vidae.

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Of course not. You want me to ease the pressure. But I'm not. Too many suspicions on you are adding up. You're not gonna get on my good side unless you or someone else can provide evidence that you are good.

I'm much rather you be defensive and attack me back than sit there and say you think I am good. That's a mafia tactic to get me off your back.
I'm not trying to get you to ease the pressure on my. I like when people voice their suspicions and back it up with votes, even when they are wrong. I'd like more people to do that, even if they are voting for me.

And I don't want to attack you because there are plenty of people I think are more evil than you are. I'd be wasting my time attacking you.
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The JR/TH thing is odd, mostly because TH is odd.
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The hammer?

I didn't rush to vote SP, I had faith he was good.

I really wanted to give SP a chance, but it seemed like he mailed it in, I was reluctant to vote toward SP.
Just pointing out a sign. Regardless of what you might've said when you posted it. It was what it was.

Another thing that sticks out is your vote for JR, but you're not really putting any pressure on him about it. Seems more like you're trying to align yourself with me. But I don't get it. I'm trying to nail JR, but you're not helping any. That's fishy.
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I'm pretty certain at this point that JR is good I have to say, so I want TH to come back and hopefully not be ridiculously skittish this time!
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Just pointing out a sign. Regardless of what you might've said when you posted it. It was what it was.

Another thing that sticks out is your vote for JR, but you're not really putting any pressure on him about it. Seems more like you're trying to align yourself with me. But I don't get it. I'm trying to nail JR, but you're not helping any. That's fishy.
I just have a feeling about JR, always have.

I'm not trying to align with you. Yes, I'm not digging to hard, just waiting for the right time to pounce on JR, and waiting for him to slip up.
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The JR/TH thing is odd, mostly because TH is odd.
Not odd! Eccentric!

There's, like, a difference!
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OSU (4): TH, JR, Grizz, D-Unit
jrdrylie (2): brat316, OSU
Grizz (1): Cigars
TH (1): UKfan

With 13 alive, 7 votes are needed for a majority.
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Cigaro, you're one of the few people I trust. Why are you still voting for Grizz?
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Cigaro, you're one of the few people I trust. Why are you still voting for Grizz?
He's obviously just going off his investigation. Some guys will stick to it through thick and thin. For me... I won't believe anyone's investigations until it's proven to be uncrackable, even my own.
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Cigaro, you're one of the few people I trust. Why are you still voting for Grizz?
I haven't liked the way he played from day one. He seems much quicker to vote to jump (at least before I revealed), and when I revealed, he immediately tried to portray it that if he were evil he must be the serial killer, and that by getting another night he could prove he wasn't. It's more than plausible that he is simply a goon, and with the expectations that I would be watched and Grizz would be tracked, the mafia simply changed the killer. There's the issue of knives, but I've already stated that in a themed game, I'm not going to automatically assume that knives equal serial killers and guns equal mafia.
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To add, I'm not 100% set on voting for him today, but until I find an equal/better candidate for my suspicions, I'm going to leave my vote there.
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My top 3 suspicions right now:
1. JR
2. TH
3. Grizz

JR has been playing off to me all game. He seems to claims he's been suspicious of me but didn't come out till the heat was on and day 2 tried to get it back on me as quick as possible and again today without ever really stating a reason. He has been throwing out names a lot this game and giving very little reasoning. In between him calling people out he states how he is town aligned and it just doesn't sit right with me.

TH is just acting weird today. Avoiding questions and voting without reason

Grizz, I believed his thief claim and to give him one night to prove it, but he failed to do so. Granted he could have been role-blocked by the mafia to set him up, or he could be a goon like Cigaro said or even an evil thief that just didn't thief last night to say he was role-blocked in the morning. I don't know, but I got my eye on him

Gonna go with my gut here
vote JR
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Big freaking surprise.
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