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Old 07-30-2013, 09:10 PM    (permalink
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it is kinda funny how all of this all leads to all that really matters is how he plays next year. I feel like a lot of people get bored and him being criticized in the media just kinda makes everyone assume he wont repeat what he did last year. All of this wont matter if he comes out and wins back to back heismans

I dont think he projects well to the pros, maybe teams might be concerned about his off the field stuff but really none of us do, we are just made to believe we do because the offseason is so ******* slow lol
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Can you name a successful quarterback with "anger issues?" Who gets in fights and is known as a rowdy partier? There's a reason those guys rarely if ever pan out, and there's no need to be an apologist for them just because you like yourself a good time, too.
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The first snap of the Rice game is going to bring an end to most of this nonsense.
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The first snap of the Rice game is going to bring an end to most of this nonsense.
Is he going to take it, or will he be "sick?"
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Can you name a successful quarterback with "anger issues?" Who gets in fights and is known as a rowdy partier? There's a reason those guys rarely if ever pan out, and there's no need to be an apologist for them just because you like yourself a good time, too.
Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I can think of a Super Bowl winning QB that's a rapist =P
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The first snap of the Rice game is going to bring an end to most of this nonsense.
No it won't. What happens if A&M's season doesn't go quite as planned? Johnny has already shown he's going to resort to alcohol to deal with the stress.
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So his parents are worried that he might wind up in jail, he has anger issues, alcohol abuse issues, went to therapy and ditched therapy.

But yeah, he's totally just being a 20 year old. No need for alarm here. Sounds like a franchise qb to me.
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JFF is already one of my favorite football players ever. I'm not talking about his NFL potential or anything like that, he is just an unbelievable football player who came out of nowhere and dominated the SEC. I think he will have trouble duplicating last season's success, but I also believe he will get a hold of himself. These "issues" he keeps having seem correctable to me, and I think once the season starts everything will be fine. He just needs to get back on the football field. The kid went from a relative unknown to being one of the biggest names in sports in about 3 months, combine that with the grief he gets from people and I am not surprised that some of these things have happened. The aTm school newspaper wrote an article about how Manziel needs to leave after this season for Christ's sake.

I'm not saying he is the next Peyton Manning, but I think Johnny is going to be just fine. I'm definitely rooting for him.
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JFF is already one of my favorite football players ever. I'm not talking about his NFL potential or anything like that, he is just an unbelievable football player who came out of nowhere and dominated the SEC. I think he will have trouble duplicating last season's success, but I also believe he will get a hold of himself. These "issues" he keeps having seem correctable to me, and I think once the season starts everything will be fine. He just needs to get back on the football field. The kid went from a relative unknown to being one of the biggest names in sports in about 3 months, combine that with the grief he gets from people and I am not surprised that some of these things have happened. The aTm school newspaper wrote an article about how Manziel needs to leave after this season for Christ's sake.

I'm not saying he is the next Peyton Manning, but I think Johnny is going to be just fine. I'm definitely rooting for him.
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So his parents are worried that he might wind up in jail, he has anger issues, alcohol abuse issues, went to therapy and ditched therapy.

But yeah, he's totally just being a 20 year old. No need for alarm here. Sounds like a franchise qb to me.

Damn his parents threw him under the bus.

Shut up dad.
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Damn his parents threw him under the bus.

Shut up dad.
On a side note Mom and Dad will gladly accept the new house Johnny buys them after the draft.
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On a side note Mom and Dad will gladly accept the new house Johnny buys them after the draft.
They probably will, but they already have funny money.
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I don't know how nice of a house a Day 3 pick can buy in comparison to the money his family already has.
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Pretty sure his parents have more money than Johnny will make, even if he is a late 1st round draft pick. Which he won't be.
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There's no way he can match the expectations set for him this season. Starting to kinda feel bad for the kid.
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If he's ruled ineligible for this, I take back most of what I've said about Manziel not being somewhat douche-y and more than a little stupid.

You're parents are already wealthy and you're nickel and diming over getting paid for autographs??
So stupid.

Is it illegal to arrange to pay a player for autographs AFTER he's done playing college football??
Is that still considered 'payment' and a violation of NCAA rules??
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I see a pattern developing.
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This is ridiculous. I was one that actually has understood the partying portion of this kids career at 20 years old. Now this? I wasn't even this desperate in college to nickel and dime people for money, and this kid comes from a wealthy family


These College athletes complain about money. Yet, they get more than the average college student with a better head on their shoulders in terms of full rides throughout college , even yet they have nothing inside that head of theirs.
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Can't wait till he's done with this season and becomes nothing in the NFL...so tired of him and the negative attention he attracts upon himself
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This guy is getting some very bad advice somewhere along the way.
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This guy is getting some very bad advice somewhere along the way.
I don't think he listens to anyone. His dad's public remarks would suggest that he's tried to help his son out, but the kid has gone down his own path and there's no telling where it might branch out to next.
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If he's ruled ineligible for this, I take back most of what I've said about Manziel not being somewhat douche-y and more than a little stupid.

You're parents are already wealthy and you're nickel and diming over getting paid for autographs??
So stupid.

Is it illegal to arrange to pay a player for autographs AFTER he's done playing college football??
Is that still considered 'payment' and a violation of NCAA rules??
Yes, the article commented on that...it's considered "deferred compensation."
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If he's ruled ineligible for this, I take back most of what I've said about Manziel not being somewhat douche-y and more than a little stupid.

You're parents are already wealthy and you're nickel and diming over getting paid for autographs??
So stupid.

Is it illegal to arrange to pay a player for autographs AFTER he's done playing college football??
Is that still considered 'payment' and a violation of NCAA rules??
The bad publicity keeps racking up for him. This thing definitely seems like he got paid to sign autographs here.

I still remember when I was at OU and had a class with Sam Bradford, I went up and asked him to sign a couple pictures I took from the Red River Rivalry in 2008. Just to make him feel a little easier about it, I had him personalize everything. Sam's an incredibly good guy, always super friendly and relaxed.

I just feel Manziel is setting himself up to bomb this year and then completely devastating any possible future in the NFL.
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