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Old 01-04-2014, 12:05 PM    (permalink
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Manziel more elusive than Vick? You are out of your mind.
While I think you're right in the open field, behind the LOS I've never seen someone buy time like Manziel does.
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While I think you're right in the open field, behind the LOS I've never seen someone buy time like Manziel does.
I agree, he is Vick like in his escapability, he may not run in the open field like Vick but he can avoid the pass rush just as well and find open receivers after doing so. His accuracy leaves Vick in his dust.

He will be the 2nd QB drafted, likely by Jacksonville and if Bridgewater slips anywhere along the post season process, he could even pass him for the #1 overall pick, but it isn't likely to happen.

He will sell lots of ticket for the Jacksonville franchise, something they desperately need and that will factor into his selection.
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The delay in declaring is a bit confusing. He isn't going any higher if he comes back for next year.
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The delay in declaring is a bit confusing. He isn't going any higher if he comes back for next year.
I think he might be struggling with the idea of leaving the college life.
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I think he might be struggling with the idea of leaving the college life.
I highly doubt that, he seems to love the "rich and famous" lifestyle. When you're partying in Hollywood or Vegas like Manziel, you probably don't care too much about missing out on the College Station bars. Plus RSJ has already stated that Manziel has already checked out mentally. I think the only thing he'll miss is his teammates, but I don't think that's enough to bring him back. He'll probably end up declaring on the fifteenth.
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Idk, I agree with princey on this one. College is a whole different level, man. It's living the life and he's on top. He can get and do what and who ever he wants. He's literally the king there. I can see why he wouldn't want to leave just yet
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Idk, I agree with princey on this one. College is a whole different level, man. It's living the life and he's on top. He can get and do what and who ever he wants. He's literally the king there. I can see why he wouldn't want to leave just yet
How much time does he actually spend there? Most of his off-season incidents/stories have occurred somewhere other than College Station. Trips to Vegas, Hollywood, Miami, etc. I don't doubt that he loves being the BMOC, but it seems he enjoys the high-flying life style much more.
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How much time does he actually spend there? Most of his off-season incidents/stories have occurred somewhere other than College Station. Trips to Vegas, Hollywood, Miami, etc. I don't doubt that he loves being the BMOC, but it seems he enjoys the high-flying life style much more.
yes but in the pros comes more responsibility and less time to do all of that stuff. Right now, he's having someone paid to go to class for him, is showing up at stuff hungover, banging slutty hot college chicks and living the life. I think he knows once in the pros, you can't go back to that... well, not as much
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I would gain a lot more respect for Johnny if he stayed. They haven't accomplished much as a team yet, and that would be a truly selfless desision on his part. If he's watching that game last evening and texting his buddies how they'll be in that playoff next year, that lets me know he loves the game and will be a respected leader at the next level. I'm not saying that's right or wrong I'm just saying that's how I personally feel about it.
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Yep, Manziel's going to be waiting until the fifteenth to announce after all.
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Yep, Manziel's going to be waiting until the fifteenth to announce after all.
If Texas A&M didn't already have a firm commitment from the #1 QB, that would be a complete dick move.
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I personally think he will fall out of the first once measurements come in.

He is listed at 6'1. I think he will be lucky to measure in at 5'11. He may be flashy and have all the media attention, but I will be shocked if a team spends a high pick on him given his height. It's pretty common to see height push QBs down the board, I think this will happen yet again.
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I personally think he will fall out of the first once measurements come in.

He is listed at 6'1. I think he will be lucky to measure in at 5'11. He may be flashy and have all the media attention, but I will be shocked if a team spends a high pick on him given his height. It's pretty common to see height push QBs down the board, I think this will happen yet again.
People have scouted his game and whether he comes in at 6 ft or 6-1 isn't going to make any differance. For what it's worth, Teddy will probably measure smaller than everyone thinks.
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People have scouted his game and whether he comes in at 6 ft or 6-1 isn't going to make any differance. For what it's worth, Teddy will probably measure smaller than everyone thinks.
If he is at or above 6'0 I agree it doesn't matter. My point is I don't think he will even hit 6'0. If he isn't I'd be shocked to see him go over the other top QBs in this draft.
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If he is at or above 6'0 I agree it doesn't matter. My point is I don't think he will even hit 6'0. If he isn't I'd be shocked to see him go over the other top QBs in this draft.
There are so many QB desperate teams drafting in the top 5, it won't matter if he's shorter than 6'0" as long as he's at least 5'11". As of right this moment, there are 3 QB's who are very likely to go top 5, Bridgewater, Manziel and Bortles, just have to see if they can maintain their position through the post season workouts. Wilson's performance can only help Manziel and make teams more willing to take the chance.
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For some reason I still think Jerry makes Manziel a Cowboy.
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He'd have to be a trainwreck in the background checks and interviews for him to fall out of the top 10 with all the QB-needy teams at the top of the draft.
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I dont think he goes in the top 10, i think he goes in the top 10 of the second round
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You're right that people are giving Manziel a look because of Wilson. Oh boy are they going to be disappointed when Manziel spends his millions on boats, drugs and prostitutes and shows up for meetings an hour late and hungover.

Wilson is also a guy that goes out there looking to make his teammates look good and raise them up. Also not Manziel, he wants the spotlight 100% of the time.
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I would love the Vikings to get him. I think the kid is going to be quite good.
I think he would be a great fit in minn. It would make them an immediate threat.
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Has his game changed that much from last year when people had serious questions about him? He is fun but I'm not sure he is a serious NFL QB.
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For some reason I still think Jerry makes Manziel a Cowboy.
i think he would love to get him, would have to trade his whole draft plus multiple first rounders though.
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i think he would love to get him, would have to trade his whole draft plus multiple first rounders though.
why? if the last two years have been any indication, the value of drafts picks have gone down. Probably 2 first round picks, and 1 third or maybe a second.

Its easier to trade up and down, now that you don't set your franchise back a decade by one bad draft pick.
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Has his game changed that much from last year when people had serious questions about him? He is fun but I'm not sure he is a serious NFL QB.
Yes, there was marked improvement in his passing.
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