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Old 06-26-2013, 01:16 PM    (permalink
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The point had to do with football politics. Brady is obviously more important to the team. I wondered if he was I the same situation who he get kicked to the curb so easily. Yes Brady has never been a problem. That was never the point. The entire "you're digging for something" doesn't make sense. It's a simple hypothetical question, not a conspiracy cover up. This still has nothing to do with me not knowing the right decision was made like you thought it did.

Oh, and it won't be that big of a loss when the season starts. Brady has had a worse surrounding cast when he wasn't as good as he is now. The Patriots offense will be fine. It's success this upcoming season didn't hinge on whether Hernandez would go to prison.
I don't know if this is a true statement or not. and the correlation between his offensive talent usually goes along with how the defense plays.

If the defense can 15-17 pts a game, they can go far. But it's got to be worrisome to Pats fans because it's hard to see the defense playing that well.

Gone are 301 receptions from last year, if Gronk misses time that could escalate to 356.

The Patriots will likely still win 10 games, but it's going to be tough for them. I don't expect to see a lot of blowouts like we have in the past
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What a ******* idiot - he had to stick close to the bums he grew up with in CT after he went pro. Good for the Patriots to cut his sorry ass. It seems like he is going to be in a ******** of trouble and going to shipped up river for quite a long time. Still Waiting for the media to classify him as a white latino like they have done with zimmerman.
My guess is you wouldn't pass jury selection.

Happen to agree with you that he is a complete idiot.
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What a ******* idiot - he had to stick close to the bums he grew up with in CT after he went pro. Good for the Patriots to cut his sorry ass. It seems like he is going to be in a ******** of trouble and going to shipped up river for quite a long time. Still Waiting for the media to classify him as a white latino like they have done with zimmerman.
You watching the Zimmerman trial? Good stuff. Not as entertaining as the Casey Anthony trial though.
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Hernandez is 23 and has already made the Pro Bowl. He has proven to be a dynamic weapon already and had a very promising future ahead of him. Is he a sure fire HOF player who is one of the best ever to play his position like Brady? No, he's not. If that's what you're arguing then OK.
But Hernandez is not some slouch like you seem to be insinuating by saying-
Saying that the Patriots will be fine offensively without Hernandeez isn't an indictment on his abilities as a player. It's essentially positional relevance. Losing Michael Crabtree for the 49ers sucks, but I don't think our offense is going to crumble without him.

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Hernandez was a piece to this team. We don't pay people, and we just gave him a 5 year $40 million contract. We viewed him as an asset. Sorry, but you're digging for something and I still don't know what it is. The closest thing I can come up with is that Hernandez is not the caliber of player Brady is, and if that's what you are going for then you nailed it dude. But Hernandez was definitely important part of this team moving forward and that was made clear by the investment we made in him.
What am I digging for? Football politics? That's what I already said. Anything else I don't know. And you said you don't know, yet you assume I have an ulterior motive. It's mere speculation to a hypothetical question. That's all it is. A quarterback is more important to the franchise than a tight end. Like I said before, positional relevance.
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I don't know if this is a true statement or not. and the correlation between his offensive talent usually goes along with how the defense plays.

If the defense can 15-17 pts a game, they can go far. But it's got to be worrisome to Pats fans because it's hard to see the defense playing that well.

Gone are 301 receptions from last year, if Gronk misses time that could escalate to 356.

The Patriots will likely still win 10 games, but it's going to be tough for them. I don't expect to see a lot of blowouts like we have in the past
Oh, I think it will be quite easy for them to win the AFC East. Buffalo, New York, Miami? The Patriots have been in worse situations before. Brady as a younger and less experienced player had his offenses clicking with David Givens, Deion Branch, and Troy Smith for instance. Not bad players, but not exceptionally explosive and guys you had to gameplan for.
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I don't know if this is a true statement or not. and the correlation between his offensive talent usually goes along with how the defense plays.

If the defense can 15-17 pts a game, they can go far. But it's got to be worrisome to Pats fans because it's hard to see the defense playing that well.

Gone are 301 receptions from last year, if Gronk misses time that could escalate to 356.

The Patriots will likely still win 10 games, but it's going to be tough for them. I don't expect to see a lot of blowouts like we have in the past
Brady is a first ballot HOFer for many reasons, chief among them is that NO QB in the NFL can turn piss into lemonade like he can.

The guy can take most team's 3rd and 4th WRs, slow guys, old and short wideouts, and still throw for over 30 TDs, 4K+ yards and over 65% completions.

The Pats may not be a well oiled machine early in the season on offense, but if the oline is in tact and Brady stays healthy, they'll be grinding in December.
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Which racial gang will Hernandez join in prison? Hispanic would be my guess. I think the African-American gang will view him as too white and the skin heads will appreciate his "short hair" but won't be having it with his skin tone.
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Which racial gang will Hernandez join in prison? Hispanic would be my guess. I think the African-American gang will view him as too white and the skin heads will appreciate his "short hair" but won't be having it with his skin tone.
Maybe the answer is found on his tattoos.
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I think they just said he's being charged with murder and a bunch of other stuff.
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Oh, I think it will be quite easy for them to win the AFC East. Buffalo, New York, Miami? The Patriots have been in worse situations before. Brady as a younger and less experienced player had his offenses clicking with David Givens, Deion Branch, and Troy Smith for instance. Not bad players, but not exceptionally explosive and guys you had to gameplan for.
I agree they will be fine as long as Brady is healthy and playing QB for them... but Brady early on was a game manager type QB and had a good defence to back him, now he is losing all of his top targets so it will be interesting to see how it all works out.
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Brady is a first ballot HOFer for many reasons, chief among them is that NO QB in the NFL can turn piss into lemonade like he can.

The guy can take most team's 3rd and 4th WRs, slow guys, old and short wideouts, and still throw for over 30 TDs, 4K+ yards and over 65% completions.

The Pats may not be a well oiled machine early in the season on offense, but if the oline is in tact and Brady stays healthy, they'll be grinding in December.
Precisely. This is merely a bump in the road for the Patriots. They're at least guaranteed a playoff spot if Brady stays healthy.
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Damn. Well, that's all folks. Can't believe this guy is potentially a murderer. Christ.
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Saying that the Patriots will be fine offensively without Hernandeez isn't an indictment on his abilities as a player. It's essentially positional relevance. Losing Michael Crabtree for the 49ers sucks, but I don't think our offense is going to crumble without him.

What am I digging for? Football politics? That's what I already said. Anything else I don't know. And you said you don't know, yet you assume I have an ulterior motive. It's mere speculation to a hypothetical question. That's all it is. A quarterback is more important to the franchise than a tight end. Like I said before, positional relevance.
My point is releasing Hernandez has nothing to do with who he is as a player, it is simply what he did/is accused of doing. Brady is in a class of his own in terms of value to this team, but Hernandez is definitely in the next tier as made evident by the investment we made in him. I don't think this has anything to do with football politics because Hernandez was clearly viewed as an asset.

While we're on topic-murder charge just announced.
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Is this the NFL's first active player to be charged with murder since Rae Carruth?
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It sounds like they got the surveillance footage. I knew that dumbass wouldn't know how to destroy the surveillance system.

Edit: they might have been talking about footage from a neighbors camera.
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Is this the NFL's first active player to be charged with murder since Rae Carruth?
Mike Vick murdered man's best friend a whole bunch.
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The cop, in white next to him, is huge. Even the cops in suits who arrested him looked to be his height. I wonder because he is a taller guy they brought in equally taller or bigger cops.

That cop next to him now looks to be a good 4-5 inches taller.
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It sounds like they got the surveillance footage. I knew that dumbass wouldn't know how to destroy the surveillance system.

Edit: they might have been talking about footage from a neighbors camera.
Neighborhood surveillance camera.



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Watching the arraignment, Hernandez is done. Surprised if he's able to get bail.
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Aaron Hernandez's lawyers should probably advise him not to make "I want to kill you" eyes at the prosecutor.
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