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Old 08-23-2013, 10:20 AM    (permalink
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you are being intentionally difficult here. i don't understand what precludes you from explaining to me how you know you were the kill other than you not wanting to get caught in a lie by somebody. you tell me a more experienced player could explain it, yet you can't? that doesn't make sense at all
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:23 AM    (permalink
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you are being intentionally difficult here. i don't understand what precludes you from explaining to me how you know you were the kill other than you not wanting to get caught in a lie by somebody. you tell me a more experienced player could explain it, yet you can't? that doesn't make sense at all
I can't role reveal fully. Lets just say, I could self target and keep myself safe.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:27 AM    (permalink
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i don't particularly care for someone to fill in the blank that you don't want to. you are obviously talking down to me, so please mr. experienced player, explain to me how you know you were the kill attempt.

grizz, you're going to hate this, but i am beginning to feel like rob is taking us for a ride myself. his vote for r-bond was not based on anything at that point, but once two other people voted it would do rob no good to unvote. now he has the convenient excuse of having been one of 3 players to vote for r-bond
Why am I going to hate that? Because I just said something similar?

As for the "I can't role reveal" stuff, its getting kind of old. Rufus' rule says "3. Avoid role revealing unnecessarily.", if you have evidence to present of any kind, its not unnecessary. As for Rob KNOWING he was the kill target, I can think of roles that would allow him to know whether he was targeted to be killed or not, that being said, he is implying that he just did something to keep himself alive so he's just speculating that he thinks someone tried to kill him since he supposedly did something to prevent death and then there were no kills. For all we know, there is a doctor that did their job and it had nothing to do with his supposed role.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:29 AM    (permalink
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Grizz is correct, the kill target could've been someone else. Or I could've been one target and the doctor did their job on a second kill. I don't have any details here other than the fact that I kept myself safe and nobody died.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:31 AM    (permalink
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Why am I going to hate that? Because I just said something similar?
yes, obviously. although rob's response has quelled my concerns. i think he's being truthful. just wanted to press him to see if he was hiding anything.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:39 AM    (permalink
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All that being said, I don't think Rob should really be in play here, I do think there are other more suspicious players. Obviously McGee is Ghost Rider, do we think that GR would be evil? He is an anti-hero and scotty being killed by a shotgun makes me think he very well could be. If we're wrong, we lose a conditional 1xVig kill, not the worst thing to lose. Gonzo and Vidae are both good plays here in my opinion. I never thought Gonzo was actually a 2xCommuter (and if he was he absolutely would have violated the don't role reveal unnecessarily thing), I could see him being evil as his other main suspicions so far have been brodeur and vidae, who he goes after every game no matter what. As I mentioned yesterday, I do think vidae has been playing defense the whole game with very little offense mixed in. Both of them hopped onto the OSU express without much reasoning (speaking of the OSU express, I'll man up and apologize for that one).

Broth I straight up haven't liked all game and he was OSU's top suspicion so I think that definitely needs to be factored in given he flipped town. My vote would definitely be between McGee and Broth right now, with Gonzo third on my list.

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Old 08-23-2013, 10:42 AM    (permalink
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it should be noted that vidae has contributed nothing but defenses of himself today. his play is just screaming mafia right now. he does not want to get caught up in anything that does not involve keeping himself alive
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:54 AM    (permalink
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I am willing to hammer McGee. I'll be checking in on my phone pretty regularly.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:16 AM    (permalink
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I know it was said Baller hinted at a roll, but has that been confirmed? If it has not, can we really be sure of Brody?



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Old 08-23-2013, 11:25 AM    (permalink
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Baller claims to be a lie detector.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:27 AM    (permalink
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Well this is A+ work by Brodeur here. I'm evil because I'm evil, don't worry about reasoning, just lynch me?

We're sure Brodeur is good? 100% sure? Cuz that is some Mafia logic if I've ever seen it.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:36 AM    (permalink
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it should be noted that vidae has contributed nothing but defenses of himself today. his play is just screaming mafia right now. he does not want to get caught up in anything that does not involve keeping himself alive
Wow, so this is the what, 4th or 5th time you've called me out for not doing anything, and this will be the 2nd or 3rd time I'm going to ask you this: what have YOU contributed? Anything? No, you haven't done anything to help the town at all in any way. Not even a little bit.

This screams someone trying to get me lynched because they think it would be an easy lynch.

Contribute something, anything, and then you can call other people out for not contributing. Until then, give it up. It's easy to see what you're trying to do.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:40 AM    (permalink
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Wow, so this is the what, 4th or 5th time you've called me out for not doing anything, and this will be the 2nd or 3rd time I'm going to ask you this: what have YOU contributed? Anything? No, you haven't done anything to help the town at all in any way. Not even a little bit.

This screams someone trying to get me lynched because they think it would be an easy lynch.

Contribute something, anything, and then you can call other people out for not contributing. Until then, give it up. It's easy to see what you're trying to do.
if you don't believe I've contributed anything you haven't been reading. I am taking stances, trying to rattle people. doing more than just defending myself when I am called out. I can't say the same for you.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:41 AM    (permalink
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:42 AM    (permalink
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Wow, so this is the what, 4th or 5th time you've called me out for not doing anything, and this will be the 2nd or 3rd time I'm going to ask you this: what have YOU contributed? Anything? No, you haven't done anything to help the town at all in any way. Not even a little bit.

This screams someone trying to get me lynched because they think it would be an easy lynch.

Contribute something, anything, and then you can call other people out for not contributing. Until then, give it up. It's easy to see what you're trying to do.
Classic evil vidae.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:44 AM    (permalink
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Mcgee(4): Baller, SBH, JR, Grizz,
Vidae(1): Brodeur
SBH(1): Vidae

With 11 alive, 6 is needed for a majority

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TBH, I think both are evil along with McGee.
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:45 AM    (permalink
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Classic evil vidae.
Haha, no, classic annoyed at the same thing being used vidae. :P
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:47 AM    (permalink
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if you don't believe I've contributed anything you haven't been reading. I am taking stances, trying to rattle people. doing more than just defending myself when I am called out. I can't say the same for you.
Oh, no sir, I've read every single one of your posts, and they're all the type of post that looks like they're trying to contribute without actually contributing. A lot of people slide by these games with posts like these, so it really wouldn't surprise me to find out you're the SK.

In fact

vote : SBH

That feels pretty good to me. Either you're Mafia or SK.

How's that for taking a stand?
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you can be annoyed all you want but there is a definite mafia element to your play thus far
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There really isn't. I have to lay low in these games now because if I don't I'm a top 3 lynch target during the day and a top 3 kill target at night.
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Oh, no sir, I've read every single one of your posts, and they're all the type of post that looks like they're trying to contribute without actually contributing. A lot of people slide by these games with posts like these, so it really wouldn't surprise me to find out you're the SK.

In fact

vote : SBH

That feels pretty good to me. Either you're Mafia or SK.

How's that for taking a stand?
finally! i can't say that this is a particularly good argument, but it is an argument none the less. the fact of the matter is that you're wrong about me. i just called out and prodded at rob out of nowhere to try to get some information. i did the same to broth on day one. day two wasn't exactly a shining moment for me as i was obviously way off on OSU but a mistake is a mistake.
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I am ready to vote Mcgee. I wasn't seeing it but after the no kill from him and the fact that he has really not gone after anybody hard (classic mafia tell) I am convinced. If McGee was good he would have killed Vidae.

FINALLY you all agree with me about Vidae. More useless than normal, the new classic evil Vidae. Pretty clear that he is evil.

Sorry I have been inactive. I would have backed up OSU last night because I am not actually a commuter but I started work just before he revealed.

It looks to me like SBH is trying to distance himself from Vidae which is a good move, I think he is evil.

Rob did the exact same thing he is doing this game last time with his bodyguard reveal. He reeks of evil and probably thinks he is in the clear after voting RBond.

Broth is the other guy who is setting off alarms. I am fairly certain he is evil too.

We ready to hammer?
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Are we all buying Gonzo's commuter role??
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There really isn't. I have to lay low in these games now because if I don't I'm a top 3 lynch target during the day and a top 3 kill target at night.
you are basically admitting here that you would rather survive than really come out and contribute. yet you don't see there being a mafia element to your play? come on now, you can't be this blind
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