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Are there any reports of Richardson being a bad teammate? Maybe they are trying to enter the Clowney sweepstakes or something
They were in the Clowney sweepstakes anyway.
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The crazy part is Chud talked T-Rich up non-stop during the offseason and how he was going to feed him the ball non-stop.

That John Denver is full of ****.
It's called "maximizing value"
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Still been calling Seattle the better team since last year.

So...that game felt right. ; )
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Well, looks like someone addressed the issue with TRich's low YPC, and claims it means little.
Yeah, I don't buy those arguments at all.

The whole Cleveland Browns team is awful. His numbers will go through the roof in a more balanced offense and even a more pass-leaning offense.
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It's called "maximizing value"
Well, it also explains the low touches in both games especially around the goal line. If he would have been going crazy these first two weeks, the fan base probably would have really lost their **** with this trade. At least now, the front office can use the "he didn't fit our offense" excuse.
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I'm behind anything that makes Mike Lombardi look bad, but I won't exactly commend the Colts either. Why did they even bother?
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I like this trade for both teams, in all honesty. Who cares about this season for them? They traded away a good player who hasn't been spectacular. They traded him away for a first round pick (Teddy ammo) and got worse themselves. They have a metric **** ton of picks now and can focus on building the offense in the upcoming draft. If I'm a Browns fan, I'm excited by this in all honesty. They got rid of Trent while his value was still high instead of holding onto him while he gains less value and eventually is worth nothing. It's like what I wanted the Wolves to do with Derrick Williams.

And as a Vikings fan, today I have gotten news that Brian Hoyer is starting and Trent Richardson got traded away from our Week 3 opponent. Also excited by this.
The Browns got better by promoting Hoyer. It's unsurprising that they had absolutely no depth behind Richardson. How ******* hard is it to find backup runningbacks these days? It's amazing watching bad teams continue to be bad.
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Not sure I'm reading you unless you are hinting that you think T-Rich is not so good.
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Honestly, this isn't a terrible trade by the Browns (good runningback on a bad team is pretty worthless considering their shelf life), but it sure as **** makes picking Richardson in the first place look just fuckawful.

I'm glad Richardson was able to escape that situation. He was going to be run into the ground and tossed aside on that awful team. It's amazing how terrible their offensive line is and has been forever. They almost had something going when they sandwiched Steinbach between Mack and Thomas, but they never developed the right side of the line...

Looking forward to watching his career now.
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Are there even any Indianapolis fans on this forum? One reboot year and now they've got a youth-driven juggernaut offense again.

And yes, Trent Richardson is good. So let's put that to bed. It might not have been a bad deal for the Browns if you're looking to the future, but it wasn't due to a lack of ability.
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All two of them are rejoicing at the moment.
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Honestly, this isn't a terrible trade by the Browns (good runningback on a bad team is pretty worthless considering their shelf life), but it sure as **** makes picking Richardson in the first place look just fuckawful.
And sending a 4th to trade up.
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Browns team rushing average league ranks last 5 years:

2012: 21st - Team record: 5-11
2011: 31st - Team record: 4-12
2010: 21st - Team record: 5-11
2009: 15th - Team record: 5-11
2008: 26th - Team record: 4-12

yeesh. that is some remarkable consistency.
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And sending a 4th to trade up.
One spot. Passing on Tannehill and drafting Weeden later in that same draft... Imagine if Cleveland drafted Tannehill and Doug Martin instead of the actual picks they made (really should have been Tannehill and Reiff to secure the right side of the line)...
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i think we can all agree that it was ill-advised to take a runningback at #3 overall. i mean, it was exciting to get a superstar caliber name, but it's 2013. richardson could go on to make pro bowl after pro bowl, but it probably wouldn't happen in cleveland anyway.
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One spot. Passing on Tannehill and drafting Weeden later in that same draft... Imagine if Cleveland drafted Tannehill and Doug Martin instead of the actual picks they made (really should have been Tannehill and Reiff to secure the right side of the line)...
As much as I appreciate Holmgren for his role in bringing the Packers back, this makes me so glad that he was not given control over personnel.
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I don't really think it's all that bad a move for the Browns right now. They aren't going to the postseason and there are signs Richardson has attitude issues. The bad move was that they got him in the first place. They passed up a chance to trade up for RG3 or stay at 4 to take Tannehill. Also, they traded up a spot to secure Richardson. That's what the Browns should really be criticized for. I'm not convinced that Richardson is or ever was as good as many people seem to think he is. He plays a low value position, has some durability questions, character questions, and may not have been the prospect that running behind Alabama's o-line made him appear to be.
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Not sure I'm reading you unless you are hinting that you think T-Rich is not so good.
Both front offices are seriously inept. That's what I'm hinting at.

I'd feel bad for Colts fans if they didn't have Luck gift wrapped to them.
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I'd feel bad for Colts fans if they didn't have Luck gift wrapped to them.
Dwayne Allen and T.Y. Hilton were both really nice recent pickups. There are plenty of worse FOs in the league.
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So TWO teams spent first round picks on the same running back? Double the idiocy.

Fix yo' blocking and just use a 3rd-6th rounder, you morons.

At least the Browns can try to package their two firsts for a real QB now. The Colts are just dumb. Trent Richardson is no better than Ahmad Bradshaw.
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At least the Browns can try to package their two firsts for a real QB now. The Colts are just dumb. Trent Richardson is no better than Ahmad Bradshaw.
This could be false.
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